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Post by starchildhypocrethes on May 1, 2022 15:01:54 GMT
The guy who played Sinclair is just an utterly terrible actor though and I can’t get past that. Sheridan any day.
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Post by simple on May 1, 2022 15:42:20 GMT
What’s worth checking out outside the 5 real series?
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Post by Aunt Alison on May 1, 2022 16:28:04 GMT
Think there's a couple of book trilogies but I've never read them
The first film should be alright. I'm not sure anything else is really worth it
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Post by Lizard on May 1, 2022 20:46:21 GMT
I read the Centauri trilogy. It's not amazing, but it does flesh out Londo and G'Kar's arcs well.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 2, 2022 10:27:52 GMT
There are the standalone movies as well, though I forget which ones are good / bad and which ones are important to the overall plot vs entirely side stories.
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Post by Whizzo on May 2, 2022 12:44:48 GMT
The standalone movies are a mixed bag, wouldn't say essential viewing. Crusade was cancelled quickly so is unfinished so should be watched just to see how B5 may have continued.
Books vary in quality but perfectly readable. Probably the spin off I remember enjoying most was the short lived comic, it fleshes out Sinclair and Garibaldi's back stories and is canon.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 2, 2022 13:04:20 GMT
Didn't Sinclair come back for one of the standalone movies?
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Post by Whizzo on May 2, 2022 13:14:54 GMT
War Without End part 2 was his last appearance, which makes sense considering where he ends up.
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Post by zephro on May 3, 2022 12:39:40 GMT
Of the TV movies:
- The Gathering is basically the pilot movie for the show, so its a sort of prequel but with different actors in some jobs
- In The Beginning, also a prequel about what everyone was up to during the Earth Minbari war, quite interesting, not necessary viewing
- Thirdspace - extended episode basically where they discover something in hyperspace, turns out its David Lynch's PS2 ads.
The other ones fill in the beginning of Crusade, so are basically shit? I don't remember
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Post by Aunt Alison on May 3, 2022 12:44:54 GMT
I don't know if it was one of the films or Crusade itself, but my memory of it was that it leant heavily into LotR with a group of people with varying 'skills' coming together. Wasn't there basically an elf or something? I didn't like it
Actually, now I think about it, it might have been a film about the Rangers
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Post by Vandelay on May 3, 2022 13:39:40 GMT
There was also a straight to DVD film made quite a while after the series ended called The Lost Tales or something like that. It has 3 stories, each 30 mins long or so. I think 1 of the stories might have been okay, but I can't remember anything about any of them.
*Post created on half memories of the last DVD in my big B5 boxset. May or may not be accurate*
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Post by nazo on May 3, 2022 14:01:41 GMT
I don't know if it was one of the films or Crusade itself, but my memory of it was that it leant heavily into LotR with a group of people with varying 'skills' coming together. Wasn't there basically an elf or something? I didn't like it Actually, now I think about it, it might have been a film about the Rangers That sounds like Crusade, one of them was a techno-mage. It wasn't good. |
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 3, 2022 23:56:52 GMT
Galen was the techno-mage from Crusade, although he first appeared in the "Call To Arms" movie that set up Crusades' plot, then he later turned up in one of The Lost Tales, where his deliberately annoying Sheridan was a highlight.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 4, 2022 0:21:54 GMT
Yeah, I never could get on board with Crusade. It was waay too fantasy/LotR and just felt cheesy, despite some of the actors in question being ok. For some reason Galen always reminded me of Richard O'Brian and that didn't help with taking it seriously.  |
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Post by Whizzo on May 4, 2022 0:28:22 GMT
Peter Woodward maybe should have played him a bit more like his Dad's most famous TV role, though I don't think the Technomages had Jags.
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 4, 2022 1:04:14 GMT
I think the last thing I saw him in was season 1 of Altered Carbon, little more than a cameo role though. His character in it didn't even have a name, he was listed as "Pleasure Concierge".
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Post by simple on May 9, 2022 10:05:38 GMT
Oh man, when they open the quarantine zone at the end of Confessions and Lamentations and find Delen and Leneer inside
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Post by simple on May 9, 2022 12:27:59 GMT
G’kar in the council chamber after the fall of Narn. Stunning.
Even under all that make up the pain, broken pride, defeat and subtly in his performance.
Molari too, the hubris, anger and sting of buried regret.
What a pair of arcs
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 12:40:25 GMT
Molari and G’Kar in the lift…
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Post by RadicalRex on May 9, 2022 13:05:12 GMT
G'Kar peeping on Sheridan and Delenn
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Post by simple on May 12, 2022 9:15:44 GMT
Up to Severed Dreams.
Not many shows do space combat like B5, especially not from back then
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 12, 2022 13:45:45 GMT
I know it's obligatory to joke about the space stuff looking like old video game cutscenes or something, but I really like it.
It allowed them to do stuff that they just couldn't do on other shows at the time, in terms of movement, camera movement and lighting.
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Post by simple on May 12, 2022 16:01:24 GMT
I feel like its probably sacrilege but I’m not sure I’m totally into all the time fuckery around B4 and War Without End. Its all a bit convoluted, isn’t it?
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Post by nazo on May 12, 2022 21:02:46 GMT
I read somewhere that the original plan was to blow up B5 in the 2nd season and then switch over to using B4 but I guess that went out of the window with Sinclair dropping out. There are a few loose seams left over where things don't quite fit.
I wonder if this supposed remake will go back to the original planned story, that would be interesting to see.
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Post by simple on May 16, 2022 13:59:34 GMT
I’m sure things’ll change quickly but ending one of the main arcs of the show a third of the way into a season seems a bold choice. There aren’t that many loose threads to tie up now and surely its not going to turn into Star Trek style standalones for the remaining time, is it?
Sheridan losing his season 3 mullet is a very good move though.
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Post by nazo on May 16, 2022 14:18:26 GMT
Oh, is this your first time watching? I'm jealous. They thought B5 was going to be cancelled after S4 so had to cram 2 seasons worth of content into one, which is why the main arc seems to end rather abruptly. There's still quite a bit to wrap up though.
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Post by simple on May 16, 2022 14:20:28 GMT
First time since broadcast so its my first time properly drilling into it.
That does make sense considering how things wrapped up then picked up business as usual the next day.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 16, 2022 23:57:38 GMT
They thought B5 was going to be cancelled after S4 so had to cram 2 seasons worth of content into one, which is why the main arc seems to end rather abruptly. This was always such a shame. They spent so much time and effort building stuff up, and a bunch of off-screen events kept scuppering their plans. Dangers of planning a 5 season show I guess. |
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Post by simple on May 19, 2022 13:27:12 GMT
Man, that interrogation episode is a slog
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Post by gossypman on May 19, 2022 15:09:33 GMT
G Kar you are getting 40 electro whips.
It's a great show hopefully the reboot will be great also.
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