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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Oct 10, 2021 17:02:18 GMT
Seems like a good time to finish my son's first run-through of B5 without faffing with DVDs. IIRC we had done all of seasons 1-4 Inc Gathering and Beginning bar finale (had heard some suggestions to postpone it but will probably just start with that or Third space then go through S5 and the rest). I forget what format the DVDs were, guessing wide-screen with worse effects so these are probably best option.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Feb 11, 2022 14:27:44 GMT
Movieweb: CW Pushes Babylon 5 Reboot to 2023I didn't even know there was a reboot in the works. Wouldn't mind seeing updated Starfuries, but I think that's about all I want to see? Certain things should just be left as they are. Mind you, I said the same thing about Battlestar Galactica before the reboot pilot came out, and that turned out to be amazing. On the other hand... this is the CW. The quality of their shows can vary so wildly.
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Post by jellyhead on Feb 11, 2022 14:32:43 GMT
I dunno. The Battlestar Galactica reboot looked amazing but i quickly got bored of it. Too much yapping and not enough lazors for my liking.
There again Bablyon 5 was 90% people yapping and backstabbing each other so it could be good.
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Post by nazo on Feb 11, 2022 16:10:23 GMT
I found out the other day that the actor who played Lennier in B5 was part of the band that made this weird thing from the 90's.
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Feb 11, 2022 20:37:06 GMT
I dunno. The Battlestar Galactica reboot looked amazing but i quickly got bored of it. Too much yapping and not enough lazors for my liking.
There again Bablyon 5 was 90% people yapping and backstabbing each other so it could be good.
I didn't mind the "yapping" for the most part, even though the constant forced melodrama could get tiring. But when it eventually became clear that they didn't really know where they were going beyond some babbling about some opera house... Well, that did definitely not help the overall quality. |
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Post by zephro on Feb 12, 2022 13:31:08 GMT
First 3 series of Battlestar are banging then it just collapses in on its own contradictions. The trial of Gaius Baltar is probably the last good bit, though the All Along the Watchtower thing is kinda fun you quite quickly realise its dumb.
Anyone who didn't get a kick out of the Adama manoeuvre during the relief of New Caprica, or the subsequent battle with the Pegasus going down in glory, is probably dead inside.
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Feb 12, 2022 19:58:40 GMT
It's not what comes to mind when I think of the series, but yeah, there were a lot of memorable moments. Like the first time the Galactica maneuvers into position to protect the civilian fleet or when Galactica and Pegasus attack the Resurrection Ship.
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Post by simple on Feb 12, 2022 20:30:47 GMT
It was all the religion stuff and Cylon politics that I didn’t fancy as much in Galactica. I was in it for the gritty refugee fleet and space combat not vision quests and prophecies.
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Post by zephro on Feb 13, 2022 1:24:58 GMT
As far as properly epic space battles on TV go I think you've got the end of DS9, Battlestar and primarily Babylon 5. I'm not really sure anything has touched them in the last 10 or even 25 years.
This is partly down to all the build up each of them gave it, not just special effects. But the final battles of the Alliance relieving Earth in B5 are pretty momentous.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 13, 2022 6:15:16 GMT
First 3 series of Battlestar are banging then it just collapses in on its own contradictions. The trial of Gaius Baltar is probably the last good bit, though the All Along the Watchtower thing is kinda fun you quite quickly realise its dumb. Anyone who didn't get a kick out of the Adama manoeuvre during the relief of New Caprica, or the subsequent battle with the Pegasus going down in glory, is probably dead inside. Was that before or after the weird time skip on the planet where they all became school teachers or something? Cos that's where I stopped watching. I liked the space battles in Galactica... they were very indebted to B5 if I remember correctly. |
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Post by zephro on Feb 13, 2022 13:19:17 GMT
Nah that madness was all series 4/5.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 13, 2022 13:24:24 GMT
I was just reading a few synopses of the episodes that I quit on, and they sound ok actually. Not sure what it was that annoyed me about them at the time. I think it was that all the characters suddenly seemed to be acting out of character.
Maybe I should have stuck with it.
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Post by geefe on Feb 18, 2022 17:46:52 GMT
Attempting it for the first time in 20 ish years. I remember seeing episodes and such.
Christ...that opening monologue. Has it aged worse than DS9? Yes. Yes it has. But I'll persevere.
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Feb 20, 2022 19:28:48 GMT
Yeah, it definitely has aged worse. Especially when it comes to overall production quality, but it still has the best script and is the most consistent out of any sci-fi show I have seen. And that's in spite of a number of unforeseen things happening with actors and such.
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Post by simple on Apr 25, 2022 22:18:17 GMT
Still early on in season 1 having just started properly today.
I’d forgotten what a big focus there was on Londo as a jovial lead considering how things turn out for him.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Apr 25, 2022 22:33:11 GMT
Londo and G'Kar have really good character arcs.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Apr 25, 2022 22:35:22 GMT
Him and G'kar pretty much trade places as good guy/bad guy by the end Looks like Lazytits quit the forum |
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Post by simple on Apr 26, 2022 5:47:22 GMT
Oh, I wonder who chased him off?
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Apr 26, 2022 5:52:26 GMT
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Post by nazo on Apr 26, 2022 10:10:53 GMT
I'm on to season 4 in my rewatch. It's impressive that in 20 episode seasons there are basically no filler episodes. Not every episode is a classic but I haven't noticed anything that's obviously there to kill time while using as little budget as possible like you got with Star Trek.
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Post by simple on Apr 26, 2022 16:00:31 GMT
Other things I’d forgotten that are coming back to me - how much Garibaldi used to remind me of a budget Bruce Willis when I was a kid
My wife said the Spaced line last night. But she hasn’t watched Spaced she just actually and incorrectly thinks it.
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Post by simple on Apr 28, 2022 9:45:02 GMT
Jeffrey Combs!
Hell yeah! Is he ever not brilliant in this sort of thing?
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Post by simple on Apr 29, 2022 7:14:38 GMT
I know he was written out because of Michael O’Hare’s health but they drop Sinclair like a rock. Fired in a Zoom meeting in the pre-title sequence before the titles kick in with Boxleitner front and centre so there’s no confusion as to whether this might be a short term plot arc or anything.
The new intro really gives up a lot of the overarching series arc as well too. I guess its a product of its time but there’s no confusion as to what the Shadows were plotting at the end of season 1, is there?
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Post by nazo on Apr 29, 2022 9:46:58 GMT
I think they did the best they could with that. It sounds like O'Hare's mental health issues were pretty bad and caused a lot of issues during S1.
Story-wise he wasn't 'fired', Mimbar requested him to be their ambassador and Earth wanted him out of the way because of his suspicions about Clarke so were happy to ship him off. It feels a bit sudden but it's not a massive stretch.
I recently read To Dream in the City of Sorrows that covers what happened to Sinclair and Sakai and the founding of the rangers, it fills in a lot of the blanks the TV series left.
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Post by gossypman on Apr 30, 2022 14:18:33 GMT
Finally started watching this and well it's not that bad .
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Post by Lizard on May 1, 2022 0:32:51 GMT
Sinclair > Sheridan
I know people think O'Hare's a bit wooden, but I like his acting and think his character is infinitely more interesting than the cheesy all-American vibe Sheridan gives off.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 1, 2022 2:29:40 GMT
Sinclair > Sheridan I know people think O'Hare's a bit wooden, but I like his acting and think his character is infinitely more interesting than the cheesy all-American vibe Sheridan gives off. I agreed at the time. My on-off rewatch hasn't gotten to the end of S1 yet, so I don't know if I'd feel the same today. Maybe it was just that it was a bit jarring to replace the main character so suddenly, so I was kicking back against that. Sheridan grew on me after a few seasons iirc. |
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Post by simple on May 1, 2022 7:13:07 GMT
I remember being Sheridan > Sinclair originally but I liked Sinclair a lot on this current rewatch.
I do think Sheridan benefits from taking charge just as the action starts to kick off where Sinclair has more domestic stories to deal with.
Basically Sheridan is Sisko’s goatee and Sheridan still has hair.
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Post by zephro on May 1, 2022 13:39:01 GMT
It seems unfair to pick. Sinclair gets to do 1 good series but Sheridan is around for the high points of the show, but also the low points in series 5 or the TV movies. Sheridan is there for most the big moments though.
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Post by Whizzo on May 1, 2022 13:52:40 GMT
I liked Sinclair and it was a shock that he left after season 1 but from the story itself it didn't do it any harm and in a way actually helped, JMS said he had multiple ways to have characters leave the show without it affecting the story arc but I doubt he'd intended to have to use a trapdoor that early.
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