cubby
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Post by cubby on Jan 23, 2023 14:20:15 GMT
My take is that he thinks saying shit like that reduces his legal culpability.
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Post by cristar on Jan 23, 2023 14:36:55 GMT
Yeah, I imagine he is doing everything he can to stay out of prison, and has maybe been told to say such things by his legal team. Looks really really bad though.
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Post by deebs on Jan 23, 2023 17:24:00 GMT
I can almost get how Baldwin might have taken it at face value as being not loaded, but it just shows an incredibly blasé attitude, and his reaction since the event, where he's not taken any of the responsibility, is the reaction of a cunt. Blasé? As I understand it, he hasn't really said anything publicly, and I wouldn't expect him to. I don't understand why people expect some grand public display of contrition following whatever circumstantial news of the week headline. In this case, if you killed someone in some accident, it's going to be a private thing between you and the family of the lost. I would find anything more just a little bit distasteful.
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Post by cubby on Jan 23, 2023 18:18:55 GMT
I can almost get how Baldwin might have taken it at face value as being not loaded, but it just shows an incredibly blasé attitude, and his reaction since the event, where he's not taken any of the responsibility, is the reaction of a cunt. Blasé? As I understand it, he hasn't really said anything publicly, and I wouldn't expect him to. I don't understand why people expect some grand public display of contrition following whatever circumstantial news of the week headline. In this case, if you killed someone in some accident, it's going to be a private thing between you and the family of the lost. I would find anything more just a little bit distasteful. He said the following on the ABC interview a few weeks after the event: "Someone put a live bullet in a gun, a bullet that wasn’t even supposed to be on the property," Baldwin said. "Someone is responsible for what happened, and I can’t say who that is, but I know it’s not me." I agree he should have stayed private, but he didn't, which is where the above comments are coming from.
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 24, 2023 7:05:24 GMT
It’s policy to literally show the actor that the gun is empty when handing it over in the UK apparently. If I were going to point one at someone I think I’d absolutely need to have seen that.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 24, 2023 7:56:10 GMT
I didn't call for a grand display of public attrition - if he kept remarks private I'd be totally okay with that, the issue is that he's made public remarks absolving himself of all responsibility which annoyed me.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Jan 24, 2023 13:48:40 GMT
I think we have more gun safety with Nerf guns in this household than they do on a US film set!
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Post by Duffking on Jan 24, 2023 17:31:02 GMT
If he's been charged my guess it that the policy is supposed to be something like, both the person who handed the gun over and person who would be firing it have both checked it's not live. The shoot was apparently way behind schedule IIRc, so I'm guessing they cut corners and this is the result.
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Post by minimatt on Jan 24, 2023 17:51:37 GMT
My US law degree* is a bit rusty, can anyone 'splain where "involuntary manslaughter" (does that imply deliberate manslaughter?) sits on the scale of the whole first, second, third degree murders and various other charges relevant to killing someone they have over there? My guess is it's right at the very bottom and the bare minimum charge you'd expect if you'd been handed a lethal weapon and failed to check if it's loaded before pointing it at someone? Kinda like picking up the keys to a car and failing to check what side of the fucking road to drive on as you exit an raf base
*ally mcbeal box set
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Post by cubby on Jan 24, 2023 19:45:19 GMT
It's a fourth degree felony in New Mexico, which can have a max 18 months in prison. Third degree would be voluntary manslaughter which carries 3 years normally.
They're chucking in the firearm enhancement on top, which makes involuntary manslaughter punishable by 5 years. New Mexico loves their enhancements, it seems, looking at all the options... If it involved some child exploitation they could make it 10, but still be fourth degree.
Plus fines, of course.
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