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Post by Blue_Mike on Nov 23, 2024 5:19:13 GMT
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Post by drakeypoos on Nov 23, 2024 9:05:04 GMT
Sounds quite promising.
That Secret Level thing is coming out next month I think. I kept reading about Love, Death and Robots made by the same people and just found it on Netflix and it looks awesome so I’ll be jumping into that as soon as I get a free living room.
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Post by zagibu on Nov 23, 2024 9:29:34 GMT
Yeah, the War Walker was updated. I prefer the old one (second image is the new one), though. I actually prefer most of the old Eldar models. The new ones are great, but the old ones had that "exotic" style that really separated the Eldar armies from everything else. New models (and I consider the Vyper jetbike already as new model) are moving away from that exotic style to a more uniform 40k look. Which is a shame in my opinion, but I do realize that most people prefer it, because it looks less "goofy".
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Post by drakeypoos on Nov 23, 2024 9:38:39 GMT
The old one is far better. I genuinely assumed the new one was a naff older model.
I mean tactically the old one is objectively daft unless there is some sort of shielding for the driver/pilot but hat new one really does look toy-like. I think the paint job doesn’t help there though - flat bright red throughout even over the canopy supports.
Edit - just did an image search on the thing and it’s definitely the paint job/pose/angle making it look bad. I’ve seen some painted less day-glo and with proper panel lining and stuff, often posed running and it is actually badass. What a bizarre choice for a promo photo James.
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Post by zephro on Nov 23, 2024 9:44:47 GMT
Yeah I've got the original war walkers, like 2 of em in old metal. They are buggers for falling over.. I think I got a new War Walker to assemble in one of the big boxes I bought but haven't assembled it. The original late RT/early 2nd Era line of minis are all classics pretty much. But I like a lot of the really new ones. The 3rd edition aspect warriors were all fucking trash though so I never bought any new ones until they started doing the plastic ones in the last few years. I've still got a shit load in my Dad's attic from 2nd/3rd ed. But stuff I've got recently is basically 1 each of the cool new minis. I've got sitting around some new guardians, whatever spare Wraithlord/War Walker came with a start collecting box, then Striking Scorpions, Dark Reapers and Corsairs. I've got a plastic crack addiction.
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Post by zagibu on Nov 23, 2024 9:45:57 GMT
I wouldn't even say the old one looks "better". The new one clearly makes more sense and has a lot more details, but the old one looks more like a symbiose between a semi-living thing and a person, while the new one looks more like a machine. The idea that the space elves grew that stuff out of some exotic material, slapped some soul stones on and basically powered it with a mix of regular energy and soul magic was always appealing to me.
And yeah I think the pilot in the old war walker is behind a forcefield.
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Post by zephro on Nov 23, 2024 9:49:12 GMT
drakeypoos I believe in 2nd ed the War Walker did have some sort of conversion field + holo field protecting the pilot. Also it's gone through a few "revisions" That looks like the 3rd/2nd edition one. They changed the pilot/weapons/body core a few times while keeping all the other metal bits identical. So it was never like a fully new model, they just tweaked it to make it stop falling over so much.
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Post by drakeypoos on Nov 23, 2024 10:27:55 GMT
zephroYou really ought to post more pictures of your painting. Brilliant work. That freehanding stuff is terrifying!
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Post by zephro on Nov 23, 2024 10:44:39 GMT
zephro You really ought to post more pictures of your painting. Brilliant work. That freehanding stuff is terrifying! I've not painted anything new in months as I've been painfully addicted to Satisfactory. The little nebula pattern thing isn't hand painting though, not that I have an air brush. It's some careful dry brushing, then a bit of packing sponge to delicately dab on the stars. My detail work is shit so I tend to make up for it doing some smart arse glazes or dry brushing to get light effects. Glowing eyes look cool and you don't have to fuck around with pupils. Ditto when I did all that battle damage on the Warlord titan I posted. Drybrushing + sponge. Then just to make the little specks of black look kinda 3d, you put a quick edge highlight around one side of the splodge. Super easy cheat method.
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Post by zephro on Nov 23, 2024 10:46:07 GMT
Also I need to get a decent light to paint in the winter and find something I really want to paint. I've got all the Legions Imperialis warhound weapons to paint. For some reason sub assemblies just depress me and make me demotivated. I got really far on the new Avatar of Khaine but decided to magnetise the arms and then just never did the arms or heads.
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Post by drakeypoos on Nov 23, 2024 12:02:27 GMT
Lighting is easy and cheaper than you might think, and there’s no such thing as cheating, just tools and techniques. At the end of the day, it’s about applying colour and texture to sell the illusion that something is real or at least really cool. Nothing wrong with humility, but your work is great man, I was really jealous of those vehicles in particular, and not just because of a galaxy decoration.
I get you with the inspiration thing. I’m really finding my Scions a chore at the moment, and they should have been finished a long while ago. Subassemblies is something I rarely do, save for a couple of occasions where I’ve painted a head separately or something.
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Post by zephro on Nov 23, 2024 12:13:14 GMT
Oh yeah I never bother getting special equipment, but the lamp I do have can't be posed. So it just backlights shit I'm painting so I'm kinda limited to daytime painting. Which is in short supply right now.
I'm pleased with how things turn out. But I really don't have the hand-eye coordination for lots of fine detail, or really delicate highlights (like 1 highlight, maybe 2 if it's a character and it's a focal point). So I tend to add lots of weathering via dry-brushing, picking striking colour schemes, using glazes to add some lighting/energy effects or doing wet blending to get fire effects. Turns out I'd been doing wet blending for years, as yknow I was too lazy as a kid to wait for paint to dry. Never winning a painting competition though, there's not enough technical skill. It's all about tying a collection of the fuckers together so they look impressive as a group.
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Post by drakeypoos on Nov 23, 2024 14:00:39 GMT
Yeah your conclusion is exactly the key and I sometimes think the, for won’t of a better term, ‘sportification’ of painting whether by actual competitions or by various forms of social media is actually really harmful in terms of stopping folk getting stuff done. It’s just selling a lie that only applies to a tiny percentage of people painting. Nobody spending 100 hours on a single Space Marine has a great looking army on their shelf, or even, god forbid, table, do they, surely?! 😂
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Post by zephro on Nov 23, 2024 16:37:09 GMT
Yeah your conclusion is exactly the key and I sometimes think the, for won’t of a better term, ‘sportification’ of painting whether by actual competitions or by various forms of social media is actually really harmful in terms of stopping folk getting stuff done. It’s just selling a lie that only applies to a tiny percentage of people painting. Nobody spending 100 hours on a single Space Marine has a great looking army on their shelf, or even, god forbid, table, do they, surely?! 😂 They definitely do, they all enter Armies on Parade. I suspect they have no other hobbies or get out that much though.
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Post by ForkHandles on Nov 24, 2024 10:10:51 GMT
This could just as easily gone in the 'You stupid tw*t' thread, but it's painting related so it belongs here with my fellow brush aficionados.
I just received my first ever brush soap, never having bothered with anything but dirty paint water for most brushes, with the occasional use of regular soap when cleaning my big dry brushing brushes. Anyway, I excitedly open the brush soap case and set about using it at the sink on 10 brushes which have been relegated from detail to base coating to dry brushing to varnishing/pva duties over the course of their lives. I wasn't seeing much improvement but I persevered, spending a minute or two on each brush.
'Not getting much in the way of soap suds here, but hey ho, maybe that's what brush soap is like' I thought to myself.
Went back to my desk, put my glasses on and looked at the soap again, and realised it was in a cellophane wrapper.
You stupid tw*t!
Gah. So I've now redone the brushes in all their soapy glory and can see an improvement in most of them, some are too far gone but my detail brush has a nice fine point on it again at least.
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Post by drakeypoos on Nov 24, 2024 10:15:43 GMT
Lolz.
Which did you go for out of interest?
I’ve started using a double combo. Drunken brush Gloop for the basic clean and then I condition with Artis Opus. Seems to work really well.
I got a bottle of brush cleaner also which purports to be non-toxic but it basically doesn’t appear to do anything.
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Post by ForkHandles on Nov 24, 2024 10:24:07 GMT
Lolz. Which did you go for out of interest? I’ve started using a double combo. Drunken brush Gloop for the basic clean and then I condition with Artis Opus. Seems to work really well. I got a bottle of brush cleaner also which purports to be non-toxic but it basically doesn’t appear to do anything. I got 'Tritart 100% Vegan Paint Brush Soap' - I only use synthetic brushes so it made sense not to use whale blubber soaps*.
It was only £7 on Amazon, so it just has to make a detail brush last 3 weeks longer than before and it's paid for itself in a couple of months. Probably.
*not a brush soap scientist
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Nov 24, 2024 18:10:45 GMT
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