Fallout

That's cool. I started with 3, never gotten around to the older ones although they are in my Steam library from a long ago sale.

I wouldn't bother. 3 seems to have been the last good one. I had a dabble at Vegas and 4 but both not a patch on 3, somehow both a bit soulless.

Whereas I only rate 1,2 and New Vegas as actually being good. The colour palette isn't that different I suppose but they had a more cartoony feel.

I love 3, but calling Vegas soulless compared to it is mental.

4 was a piece of shit.

I can pinpoint the exact moment when this franchise died for me. It was this bit in the Fallout 76 trailer:



I mean, what the hell is this? I don't want this. Whatever it is, it's not Fallout. For me, the franchise was already on life support after F4, and this pulled the plug. By the time Fallout 76 was actually released I found the resulting shit show more amusing than disappointing.

I must've played all of 10 minutes of '76. Created my character, got out of the vault and walked up to a dog that kept trying to move and snapping back into place.

Uninstalled it and said I'd try it again when they'd polished it a bit, but then a year or so later realised that I've got better things to be doing with my time.

It improved a lot with patches, right now it's like a Fallout 4 with the odd real person around every now and then (until you get into the group events which can actually be a lot of fun), Bethesda adding human NPCs to a couple of areas really helped (was so depressing doing missions based entirely around long lost letters/terminal entries).

But yeah, bounced off it a couple of times before it clicked.

I'm surprised saying it's like Fallout 4 is tempting you.

I’ve never managed more than 3 or 4 hours of any of the Fallouts or sillier types of games (elder scrolls etc). I love the idea of them but the story doesn’t get interesting enough fast enough and the gameplay is more or less the same throughout that time and clunky. The tutorial areas are always incredibly dull and patronising too.

I finished Fallout 4 and all dlcs. Once I got past the force fed base building section and realised I could just ignore that nonsense and play it like FO3 I cracked on and for the most part enjoyed it.

The dlcs are both very good!

Mist admit though that opening town with the deathclaw… probably up there as one of the worst game openings of all time for me! Could have almost called it a day there!

The first two games and NV are masterpieces, I will hear NO DISSENT from this inalienable fact.

I played a bit of 76 when it came out, I liked the lonely atmosphere of it. But then they added talking NPCs, which are probably my least favourite thing about Bethesda games. Haven't been back since.

I've liked some things about 3 and 4, mostly in the DLCs. Point Lookout and Far Harbour are good, but a good chunk of the other ones (eg. Zeta) are hot, hot garbage.

Bethesda has taken the franchise in their own direction, and imo made it into something not true to the spirit of the original games (and New Vegas). They *kind of* get it, but most of the similarities are surface-level. But aside from them being (imo) bad Fallout games, it's certainly possible for people to just appreciate and enjoy 3/4/76 as their own thing. People like Bethesda games, and that's fine!

3/4/76 are not personally for me, and it's a bit annoying that a franchise that was for me has been turned into something not for me, but... things die, things change into other things, and now I get to spread my wings and start appreciating something else. I'm happy to let it go.

There probably are some but I've never paid a penny and never felt underleveled or anything as a result. I'm guessing most of the money comes from cosmetics and charging for private world's (which really isn't needed as the maps only have I think 24 people and they only really come together in a couple of spots when someone sets of a nuke).

Again that's not me saying they don't have loads, they probably charge for caps, legendaries and so on but I don't recall it as I never needed it.

I never found myself needing any of that stuff but then again I only built one camp with all I needed and didn't try to make a massive elaborate thing. The other stuff I got more than enough doing the season scorecard things and events casually. I'm not the target player though, I played it as a single player game with occasional events. Probably plenty of ways to rip people off who wanted more.

Looks very good, and seemed to have got the vibe right. Hopefully they're keeping the super mutants and creatures of the Wasteland as a surprise.