aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Feb 16, 2023 5:37:53 GMT
Apparently it’s a great update to one of the greatest games of all time.
I just wanted to say how irritated I’m getting when reading articles and reviews that claim Wii was the last hardware you could play it on. I bought Prime Trilogy as a download on Wii U and had a VERY satisfying replay on that.
Glad they have kept this game alive. The second game also deserves restoration.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 16, 2023 5:52:07 GMT
I think everyone is trying to forget the WiiU happened  I had. |
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Post by Blackmarsh63 on Feb 16, 2023 7:51:26 GMT
Cracking update . Loving the revamped controls. Makes it a tad easier.
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Post by dfunked on Feb 16, 2023 8:17:59 GMT
Heh, I have one in the loft with an unplayed MP trilogy digital download on it. I'd rather just emulate than get that disappointment of a console back out.
It had some cracking games, but most of the good ones have been ported to switch by now. I might have to look at selling it now that you mention it.
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Post by The12thMonkey on Feb 16, 2023 8:40:53 GMT
Whilst I think the twin stick is pretty good, I find it a little awkward to change beam canon now. I'm about 6 hours in, and it's starting to get to the point where switching beams mid-boss will become required, and the twin stick layout has me a little concerned about how those moments will feel to play.
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Feb 16, 2023 10:17:27 GMT
I thought the Wii U was a stupid piece of shit marketed with total incompetence, but bought one super cheap in 2018, tracked down the good controller for it, and stacked it with a bunch of classics from that amazing download catalogue. Played some faves for a month then gave it to someone I was crushing on for Christmas. Very regrettable, I’d still be playing it.
Couldn’t believe they didn’t just have virtual console immediately on Switch. Not really interested in their subscription service.
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Post by dfunked on Feb 16, 2023 10:26:54 GMT
The12thMonkey yeah, that was one of my few gripes with it. It gets pretty nasty with the colour coded space pirates and fusion metroids later on. When I played it on Steam Deck I think I had a button bound to cycle through the beams instead which worked a bit better than holding imo. Would've been nice if they just allowed you to tap to cycle and hold to select beams. The charge beam double/triple shooting before charging was also baffling. How that got past QA is beyond me... A nice QoL change would've been to change doors to blue after you've opened them once, as that just exaggerated how annoying switching beams is. I just want to stay on melty beam permanently as soon as I get it, damnit!
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Feb 16, 2023 10:31:05 GMT
How do you switch beams?
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Post by dfunked on Feb 16, 2023 10:33:17 GMT
Hold X and use the left stick. It just doesn't work in a firefight, or anywhere really as you just stop in your tracks to do it.
Original in comparison had them mapped to just swiping the right stick IIRC which was perfect for quickly switching any time.
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Post by The12thMonkey on Feb 16, 2023 10:41:44 GMT
The12thMonkey yeah, that was one of my few gripes with it. It gets pretty nasty with the colour coded space pirates and fusion metroids later on. When I played it on Steam Deck I think I had a button bound to cycle through the beams instead which worked a bit better than holding imo. Would've been nice if they just allowed you to tap to cycle and hold to select beams. The charge beam double/triple shooting before charging was also baffling. How that got past QA is beyond me... A nice QoL change would've been to change doors to blue after you've opened them once, as that just exaggerated how annoying switching beams is. I just want to stay on melty beam permanently as soon as I get it, damnit!
Yeah, it does feel awkward. Omega Pirate is not going to be a fun experience because of it!
And the charge beam - actually have to train myself to look away to charge up a super missile if I don't want to alert napping pirates that they're about to get splatted.
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Post by dangerousdave on Feb 16, 2023 21:20:54 GMT
I played through Metroid Dread again as I'm holding off on Prime for a couple more weeks. Its so, so good. It controls so well and is designed to be replayed. It gets better with every playthrough. Probably my 2nd favourite in the series after Super.
I wonder if this Prime remaster will change my mind?
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Feb 16, 2023 21:34:32 GMT
The game has options to use the original control scheme though, right?
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Post by JonFE on Feb 16, 2023 21:46:55 GMT
Not tested myself, but, IIRC, digital foundry mentioned it supports many schemes including motion controls, twin stick, gyro and the original...
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Post by dfunked on Feb 16, 2023 22:30:14 GMT
Yeah, there are multiple options. I played through most of it on the couch with a pro controller though, so only really had the option of dual stick or classic. The benefits to dual stick far outweigh that clunky beam switching, so I'd still definitely prefer it over classic.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Feb 16, 2023 23:48:36 GMT
Has the music been remastered? I loved some of the Prime soundtrack.
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Post by dfunked on Feb 17, 2023 0:00:39 GMT
It's the same soundtrack, pretty much untouched from what I can tell. It just hasn't been compressed to buggery to fit on a GameCube disc.
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Post by jp on Feb 17, 2023 19:21:32 GMT
Picked this up today and keen to dive into it. Bounced off it a bit when I got it for GameCube aged around 10 so interested to see how I get in with it 20 years later.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 17, 2023 20:10:58 GMT
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Post by jp on Feb 17, 2023 21:32:14 GMT
Enjoying the first few hours of this - question for those in the know:
In each level, are all the required upgrades to fully explore each area found within the same level?
More simply - I’m in Chozo ruins, can I find all the upgrades needed to fully explore Chozo ruins within Chozo ruins? Or will I have to move on to another level and then come back to fully explore?
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Post by dfunked on Feb 17, 2023 21:36:10 GMT
Nope, you'll soon be hopping between areas to get the next bit of gear and then back to where you were. When you need to go to a different area you'll got a beacon/map marker after a while.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2023 22:03:00 GMT
Backtracking is a trademark of this franchise.
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Post by jp on Feb 17, 2023 22:08:00 GMT
You’ll get beacons/map markers?
So far I’ve not had much direction really on where I’m going/what I’m actually doing (other than collecting upgrades).
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Post by dfunked on Feb 17, 2023 22:17:27 GMT
You'll know when it happens. You get a "beacon received" message and it prompts you to open the map and marks where you need to go next.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2023 22:20:57 GMT
I’d actually forgotten how linear this and Fusion were when they came out. It’s not a bad thing, but definitely a change from the first three.
I’m waiting on the Physical release for this one because I’m out of space on my SD card, so it’s nice that Switch doesn’t install games into storage if you buy the carts.
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Post by The12thMonkey on Feb 17, 2023 22:47:40 GMT
You’ll get beacons/map markers? So far I’ve not had much direction really on where I’m going/what I’m actually doing (other than collecting upgrades). I think it's approx after 20 mins of not getting to where the next upgrade is. You will have had the first one for free, when you enter the Chozo Ruins at the start and get the pointer to the Missile Launcher. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 18, 2023 7:50:34 GMT
Does anyone else keep reading it as the Chorizo Ruins?
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Post by The12thMonkey on Feb 18, 2023 8:21:43 GMT
I do now
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Post by kal on Feb 21, 2023 11:17:17 GMT
Really enjoying a return to this but if they were prepared to update the controls to align it with modern games they could have done the same with the save system. It can be absolutely brutal having to redo huge sections when you die. More than once I’ve died after killing a boss but before the next save point. That’s just bad design. Even From aren’t that harsh.
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Post by pierrepressure on Feb 21, 2023 12:48:53 GMT
Yeah that's a bit of an oversight, I have limited time gaming and if that happens to me I'd probably end up just switching off, possibly never returning to it.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 21, 2023 14:08:56 GMT
They don't do that after the Ridley boss fight, do they?
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