Bongo Heracles
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Aug 3, 2024 13:17:28 GMT
Oh, nice. Is that more recent or another add-on? We have E5 and all the security gubbins but last time I did it was still dumped out to mail. It just does it by default. If you add your search results to a review set and export them, it will separate mail, files and chats. You have to use premium, though. Standard is still just a gussied up content search.
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Post by blankoblank on Aug 5, 2024 22:29:14 GMT
Last day at self storage today. And the regional manager is here. He's the one that was "bitterly disappointed in me" for leaving. Well, I was "bitterly disappointed at being lied to in the interview Keith, but here we are eh" Jog on, you twat. Speaking as someone whose dad is called Keith, bitter disappointment seems to be a general Keith thing I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Post by zisssou on Aug 6, 2024 8:24:38 GMT
I've gone into a real slump at work, which is understandable considering what I've been through the last few months. I've been in communication with my team leader throughout saying to her that I'm somewhat struggling with my mood, and that I'm seeking some bereavement counselling. The problem is the machine keeps on rolling. Despite what you tell people, sympathy only goes as far. I get arsey messages saying why have I missed X and why didn't I pick up this. Why do you think? Of course the simple thing would be to have an honest conversation and air grievances, but I just can't be bothered. Just a fucking jobsworth that seems to only care about work.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 6, 2024 10:30:35 GMT
2nd interview I've had this week and yet another person who is talking to me like a robot. Is this a common thing when speaking to recruiters on Teams or Zoom?!
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Post by technoish on Aug 6, 2024 10:50:37 GMT
When I recruit I use the exact same script and questions with everybody to avoid bias. If I'm talking to a lot of people, it's hard to not get a bit robotic....
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 6, 2024 10:54:18 GMT
Interesting. I guess because I essentially talk for a living I always inject a lot of personality in my conversations.
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Post by technoish on Aug 6, 2024 11:04:21 GMT
Interesting. I guess because I essentially talk for a living I always inject a lot of personality in my conversations. Yeah, I'd find it quite easy to connect to my age white guys with similar backgrounds...
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 6, 2024 11:09:19 GMT
Interesting. I guess because I essentially talk for a living I always inject a lot of personality in my conversations. Yeah, I'd find it quite easy to connect to my age white guys with similar backgrounds... ? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here.
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Post by quadfather on Aug 6, 2024 11:30:15 GMT
I've gone into a real slump at work, which is understandable considering what I've been through the last few months. I've been in communication with my team leader throughout saying to her that I'm somewhat struggling with my mood, and that I'm seeking some bereavement counselling. The problem is the machine keeps on rolling. Despite what you tell people, sympathy only goes as far. I get arsey messages saying why have I missed X and why didn't I pick up this. Why do you think? Of course the simple thing would be to have an honest conversation and air grievances, but I just can't be bothered. Just a fucking jobsworth that seems to only care about work. Yes, that's completely understandable considering what's happened. Have you had any bereavement leave from work? And what has your line manager said about it, if anything? I got signed off from work by my GP for bereavement. It was, in my case at least, a one way ticket as I ended up taking a lot of time off (3 months), but that was because it was also combined with burnout. But in your case, I would communicate with your leader and be up front about it. This is a simple job we're talking about here, which pales into insignificance when compared to a bereavement loss. And is it just the one person that's being an insensitive twat, or is it everyone?
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Post by askew on Aug 6, 2024 11:30:33 GMT
How do you do fellow white guy
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wunty
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Post by wunty on Aug 6, 2024 12:02:47 GMT
2nd interview I've had this week and yet another person who is talking to me like a robot. Is this a common thing when speaking to recruiters on Teams or Zoom?! Are you sure you're not being interviewed by robots? Is one of the questions "where are your other humans hiding?"
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Post by wunty on Aug 6, 2024 12:03:26 GMT
But also.
WHERE ARE THE OTHER HUMANS HIDING
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 6, 2024 12:09:14 GMT
2nd interview I've had this week and yet another person who is talking to me like a robot. Is this a common thing when speaking to recruiters on Teams or Zoom?! Are you sure you're not being interviewed by robots? Is one of the questions "where are your other humans hiding?" I think the guy today was king of the robots.
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Post by technoish on Aug 6, 2024 12:18:14 GMT
Yeah, I'd find it quite easy to connect to my age white guys with similar backgrounds... ? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here. Sorry, took economical with words... My point was that if I do more of my personality etc I am more likely to connect with people more like me, also give them more leeway/chances. So I stick to a script.
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Post by Dougs on Aug 6, 2024 12:21:14 GMT
Civil service interviews are not like others though. Very big on unconscious bias, fairness and equality, hence the need to stick to a script. It's boring but at least ensures everyone gets the same experience.
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Post by zisssou on Aug 6, 2024 12:33:27 GMT
I've gone into a real slump at work, which is understandable considering what I've been through the last few months. I've been in communication with my team leader throughout saying to her that I'm somewhat struggling with my mood, and that I'm seeking some bereavement counselling. The problem is the machine keeps on rolling. Despite what you tell people, sympathy only goes as far. I get arsey messages saying why have I missed X and why didn't I pick up this. Why do you think? Of course the simple thing would be to have an honest conversation and air grievances, but I just can't be bothered. Just a fucking jobsworth that seems to only care about work. Yes, that's completely understandable considering what's happened. Have you had any bereavement leave from work? And what has your line manager said about it, if anything? I got signed off from work by my GP for bereavement. It was, in my case at least, a one way ticket as I ended up taking a lot of time off (3 months), but that was because it was also combined with burnout. But in your case, I would communicate with your leader and be up front about it. This is a simple job we're talking about here, which pales into insignificance when compared to a bereavement loss. And is it just the one person that's being an insensitive twat, or is it everyone? Yeah, I had 3 weeks off. I think work gives me some focus, even if I'm sure we'd all rather be playing games all day, but for me I don't think it would be helpful to do that (I know others might!). Did you find the 3 months helpful? I have spoken to her about everything, that I'm slightly slower at the moment, and she is understanding anytime we have discussed things, but at times she's just so confrontational and abrupt.. I'm not really in the mood to bring that sort of thing up. But I will if I ever get pulled up for not doing work right etc.
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Post by quadfather on Aug 6, 2024 12:41:32 GMT
Yes, that's completely understandable considering what's happened. Have you had any bereavement leave from work? And what has your line manager said about it, if anything? I got signed off from work by my GP for bereavement. It was, in my case at least, a one way ticket as I ended up taking a lot of time off (3 months), but that was because it was also combined with burnout. But in your case, I would communicate with your leader and be up front about it. This is a simple job we're talking about here, which pales into insignificance when compared to a bereavement loss. And is it just the one person that's being an insensitive twat, or is it everyone? Yeah, I had 3 weeks off. I think work gives me some focus, even if I'm sure we'd all rather be playing games all day, but for me I don't think it would be helpful to do that (I know others might!). Did you find the 3 months helpful? I have spoken to her about everything, that I'm slightly slower at the moment, and she is understanding anytime we have discussed things, but at times she's just so confrontational and abrupt.. I'm not really in the mood to bring that sort of thing up. But I will if I ever get pulled up for not doing work right etc. Yes, playing games and distracting yourself can be productive, but equally, focusing on something (like work) can also be productive too. A bit of both can be even better. Yes, my 3 months off were invaluable, but it was a slightly difference scenario - I was burnt out and every bit of stress I had thrown at me just triggered a trauma episode each time which dragged everything up again - I was basically out of energy full stop, and could barely function. 3 months later, and I've made the u-turn to start restoring everything again. It's like turning the titanic around. It takes a while. That's good that she's understanding. That's a great start, and it sounds like when she's abrupt, it's probably because she's getting shit from above, so she's stressed too, and will occasionally forget that she's not going through what you're going through. Are you doing your work ok? I mean, be honest - can you do it ok, and these annoying twats are just getting to you more often than before because you're under the weather, or are you struggling with it regardless? Does it feel like it's getting better, staying the same, or getting worse over time?
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Post by zisssou on Aug 6, 2024 14:01:03 GMT
Yeah, I had 3 weeks off. I think work gives me some focus, even if I'm sure we'd all rather be playing games all day, but for me I don't think it would be helpful to do that (I know others might!). Did you find the 3 months helpful? I have spoken to her about everything, that I'm slightly slower at the moment, and she is understanding anytime we have discussed things, but at times she's just so confrontational and abrupt.. I'm not really in the mood to bring that sort of thing up. But I will if I ever get pulled up for not doing work right etc. Yes, playing games and distracting yourself can be productive, but equally, focusing on something (like work) can also be productive too. A bit of both can be even better. Yes, my 3 months off were invaluable, but it was a slightly difference scenario - I was burnt out and every bit of stress I had thrown at me just triggered a trauma episode each time which dragged everything up again - I was basically out of energy full stop, and could barely function. 3 months later, and I've made the u-turn to start restoring everything again. It's like turning the titanic around. It takes a while. That's good that she's understanding. That's a great start, and it sounds like when she's abrupt, it's probably because she's getting shit from above, so she's stressed too, and will occasionally forget that she's not going through what you're going through. Are you doing your work ok? I mean, be honest - can you do it ok, and these annoying twats are just getting to you more often than before because you're under the weather, or are you struggling with it regardless? Does it feel like it's getting better, staying the same, or getting worse over time? That's great you've managed to make a u-turn. I'm capable of doing my job. I just find sometimes my mind goes completely blank, and takes me a while to figure stuff out, which I can only assume it's everything that's going on having an impact. I think also part of a bigger issue is confidence. I've lost it somewhat along the way, so I question my ability, then whenever someone might make a dig (or I take it as a dig), then it stresses me out and causes me to sink deeper. I think it's been pretty similar for a while now, which only counselling can help. But of course I have to wait for that..
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Post by quadfather on Aug 6, 2024 14:37:39 GMT
[/quote]That's great you've managed to make a u-turn. I'm capable of doing my job. I just find sometimes my mind goes completely blank, and takes me a while to figure stuff out, which I can only assume it's everything that's going on having an impact. I think also part of a bigger issue is confidence. I've lost it somewhat along the way, so I question my ability, then whenever someone might make a dig (or I take it as a dig), then it stresses me out and causes me to sink deeper. I think it's been pretty similar for a while now, which only counselling can help. But of course I have to wait for that.. [/quote] It's an ongoing u-turn, but cheers regardless Ah, that all sounds very familiar indeed! Yes, I think I understand what you're saying. The blank mind thing is real - your brain is processing so much, that you'll occasionally 'switch off' for a minute and then come back and go, 'the fuck was I doing? What does this mean again, I can't work it out" etc. It's like your cpu is having to borrow some core memory from somewhere else and/or can't cope with the amount of stuff at that very minute. Like a video game where it drops its fps in busy sections. And that knocks your confidence a bit. By the way you come across and notice all these things makes me realise you're in touch with what's going on and why, it's just the ballache of actually having to go through it yourself. And because you're that way, you'll write what you've just written and question yourself. Welcome to the party, pal And that lack of confidence, in turn, will make comments that your co-workers said stick a bit more. I'd say you're on the right track tbh. Your brain knows what to do - you've got to let it do it and make sure you're in good health to do so. That's why everyone says to make sure you look after yourself in times like these - it's your turn now to prop your brain up while it sorts the stuff out, and that takes valuable cpu time. I can tell you something that really helped me and I had no idea at the time how useful it would be, but when I was feeling particularly wretched/stressed/whatever, I'd write down at the time what it was. Then I'd do it again, months later. I kept doing this for months and then I read back from the initial one. Its staggering how much you change. You don't realise it at the time because you're living every moment of it so it's super tiny increments. But give it a go, you might be pleasantly surprised. And i think the counselling will be invaluable too. It definitely was for me. Life changing, in fact. And you can always go private. About £45 a lesson
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Post by zisssou on Aug 6, 2024 15:24:00 GMT
Cheers quad! A good shout on the writing stuff down. I did that a long time ago, so that's pushed me into thinking I should again.
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Post by quadfather on Aug 6, 2024 15:40:17 GMT
Cheers quad! A good shout on the writing stuff down. I did that a long time ago, so that's pushed me into thinking I should again. Anytime! It's good I find, to talk about things like this openly like any other normal topic. Helps make it real, no matter what medium. Yeah, I'd recommend giving the writing thing a go. Also helps you focus in the moment too. All win/win stuff
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Post by zephro on Aug 8, 2024 12:08:04 GMT
It's always a bad day at work when you start polishing your LinkedIn profile. Then get depressed because you're on linkedin.
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Post by Tuffty on Aug 9, 2024 5:58:55 GMT
Congrats quad! Very nice indeed, glad to hear it. Had a strange day myself. Walked in to work and first thing this morning I get pulled in by a higher up to tell me that 2 of my teammates are getting sacked with immediate effect. Turns out that in their Teams conversation with each other, their conversation has been flagged for wildly inappropriate behaviour. As an example, one of them had referred to the only woman on our team as "a fucking cunt". That was enough to get flagged to the IT Security Team, who monitors any kind of excessive language like that and they were able to dig deeper into their conversation log and found all kinds of wild shit, talking badly about other colleagues, including me and even bragging about how they can get away without doing much work. Just the sheer height of stupidity, we all know teammates that get on our nerves but you'd never put it down in writing where it can be found, in a professional work place. Go out for something to get at the vending machines and vent there. They came in at 9, were sacked by 10. I'm covering for my team lead who's off on holiday for 2 weeks, I have this innate hesitation he'll ask questions of me, but I mean, it's all escalated above my head and I can't control what they say so... So they got the sack. I found out what was said and to keep it as generic as possible, they bad mouthed me, the boss, other people in the building, talked about how some women in the building looked like an easy ride which included members of HR, bragged about having no work to do and talked about how one of our teammates should drink bleach and die and wished a terminal illness on them.
All over Teams. Just unbelievably stupid.
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Post by Lizard on Aug 9, 2024 6:53:08 GMT
Fucking hell. Despite being in the middle of restructure, with my job on the line, it has been announced that they might just disestablish the whole agency. Our CE apparently knew nothing of this, which shows how sidelined they've been. It's actually a massive 'fuck you' to her from the ministers.
Obviously just adds another layer of uncertainty for me. Jesus Fucking Christ.
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Post by Tuffty on Aug 9, 2024 7:05:54 GMT
Flip sake, hope all goes well.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 9, 2024 8:28:35 GMT
Fuck
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Post by Dougs on Aug 9, 2024 11:39:45 GMT
Good luck lizard. Worrying times but sure there's demand for your speciality.
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Post by Lizard on Aug 9, 2024 23:04:13 GMT
Thanks all. It could be good, it could forestall the restructure and save my job, at least in the short term. Or maybe not. Everything is up in the air. If they disestablish the agency they save money at upper management level, or at least should.
The restructure to this point has been a shitshow. It would take an essay to detail everything, but the process was borderline cruel, and the end proposal akin to a North Korean diktat. It started late March and was delayed multiple times for unknown reasons. The document disestablishing roles was error-strewn and hadn't even been spell checked.
So, fuck know what happens now. Proposal goes to Cabinet on Monday and then...
There is a law that theoretically necessitates my job, or at least the work I do, so I'm clinging to that. Everything a bit Kafka-esque ATM though.
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Post by quadfather on Aug 11, 2024 14:42:22 GMT
Hope it goes ok Lizard.
Meanwhile, new nhs job starts tomorrow so I'm preparing properly, in an adult way by having some beers in the sun early doors.
Cheers!
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 11, 2024 14:44:58 GMT
Good luck for tomorrow Quaddy!
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