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Post by darkling on Sept 20, 2022 8:28:54 GMT
Yes, I really wish I was watching this in 4K Dolby Vision, instead of via a friend's Sky Go login, but I refuse to pay for a Sky subscription that's also supplemented by long ad breaks. I wish I could just sub to HBO Max and have done with it.
Anyway, enjoying this so far. Much better than the turgid Rings of Power, mainly because of better characterisation, better character motivations, and better dialog. Not to mention some actual shocking and surprising happenings in the storyline. Rings of Power is pedestrian in comparison.
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Post by Tuffty on Sept 20, 2022 23:08:43 GMT
Little bit of contrivance you have to accept in order for the events within the wedding to occur but I didn't mind it so much as it was pretty established what made him lash out. In terms of the next episode we're getting the biggest time jump yet, done with the young Rhaenyra and Alicent. Their actors were fantastic I thought, quite a few comments sad it is the last so Emma D'arcy and Olivia Cooke have a lot to live up to going forward. Could make or break the show, I read the viewing figures for this have increased with each episode and it was already pretty high on the premiere. |
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Sept 21, 2022 7:18:06 GMT
I like it though Daemon seems to own a handy set of mithril plot armor and the sense of threat or danger overall seems a little lacking along with consequences generally, with the exception of Sir Bum Slapper McDumbass.
I understand there is a time skip coming up which will reset any sense of peril or threat, be interested to see how that is managed.
It's an enjoyable watch, obviously a different show to GoT as it covers the various Kings and Queens over generations hopefully that keeps viewers hooked as I'm all for big budget fantasy on screen.
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 21, 2022 11:02:14 GMT
I was fully expecting a transition shot to show the jump at the end of episode 5.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 15:26:31 GMT
Yes, I really wish I was watching this in 4K Dolby Vision, instead of via a friend's Sky Go login, but I refuse to pay for a Sky subscription that's also supplemented by long ad breaks. I wish I could just sub to HBO Max and have done with it. Anyway, enjoying this so far. Much better than the turgid Rings of Power, mainly because of better characterisation, better character motivations, and better dialog. Not to mention some actual shocking and surprising happenings in the storyline. Rings of Power is pedestrian in comparison. I wanted to watch GoT in best quality HD, without adverts, and the solution I found was to not watch it all, for a decade, until it went on sale on Amazon. Then hammered the whole thing in a week. And what a week. It's a good solution but you do have to patient. And adept at dodging spoilers. |
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Post by brokenkey on Sept 21, 2022 15:45:37 GMT
Talk like a pirate day was on Monday, right?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2022 9:51:53 GMT
Finally decided to start watching this last night and ticked off ep1.
Really bloody enjoyed it actually.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2022 9:53:53 GMT
Their FB page posted Alicent and Rhanaera fuck the spelling with the new actors this week so odds on the change is this weekend.
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Post by deebs on Sept 25, 2022 19:06:21 GMT
I have a sneaking suspicion that this is a bit shit. Looks alright, but the writing, casting, acting, dialogue, and world building just isn't there. It might have been fine without the frankly glorious first seasons of the OG, but as it stands it's completely inferior.
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Post by 😎 on Sept 26, 2022 3:32:48 GMT
I enjoyed the David Lo Pan cameo this week.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2022 22:34:29 GMT
I thought that was great. The new Rhynaera and Alicent gave great performances. Thought the CGI on a particular rooftop scene was a bit crap and was the only bit I didn't enjoy.
I am struggling to keep up with who is who a little bit though with all the children.
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Post by aubergine on Sept 26, 2022 22:56:19 GMT
Show also revealed its first outright evil character this week. I’d still just like everyone to get along.
I thought the new actresses continued it extremely well.
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 27, 2022 6:26:51 GMT
I am struggling to keep up with who is who a little bit though with all the children. A bunch of bastards and a wanker |
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Post by cristar on Sept 27, 2022 7:59:36 GMT
Yeah I was confused at the start too, but it was very much a set-up episode after the time jump. Definitely going to get interesting.
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 27, 2022 8:13:23 GMT
Went into this episode very much expecting Rhaenyra to be queen, so was definitely confusing when they seemed to be suggesting that Alicent had taken the throne some how. Was nice to see Paddy Considine still around though Another entertaining episode and some nice set up for the remainder of the season. Good to have a villain revealed and he already seems to be more competent than his GoT counterpart. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 27, 2022 19:34:49 GMT
The way it's going the King could just be a head in a jar by the end of S1
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Sept 27, 2022 21:12:16 GMT
Good episode that. I'd be interested to see some Martels or Triachy rather than just being mentioned but perhaps that's for the last couple of episodes.
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 27, 2022 22:06:59 GMT
That is something I've felt about this series so far and I reserve judgement until the end whether I think it is working or not; it does seem very focused on the events in King's Landing and this one family. We have mention of other families we know from GoT, but we aren't seeing them.
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Post by HoriZon on Sept 29, 2022 11:31:08 GMT
That is something I've felt about this series so far and I reserve judgement until the end whether I think it is working or not; it does seem very focused on the events in King's Landing and this one family. We have mention of other families we know from GoT, but we aren't seeing them. Isn’t it called House of the Dragon it’s in the title it’s about this family. |
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Post by Dougs on Sept 29, 2022 22:22:33 GMT
Beat episode yet imo. Although I thought the change of cast to be unnecessary, unless there's a massive time jump coming. . Lots of good scheming and plotting and positioning for power. Very GoT. Crap CGI though. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 30, 2022 7:03:14 GMT
Beat episode yet imo. Although I thought the change of cast to be unnecessary, unless there's a massive time jump coming. . Lots of good scheming and plotting and positioning for power. Very GoT. Crap CGI though. Latest episode should be the last big time jump. |
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Post by darkling on Sept 30, 2022 10:04:19 GMT
I didn't enjoy the time jump. For me, it never works in films and TV series if done too late. If it happened in the first episode, during the setup, then fine, but at 6 episodes in I'd already got invested in the established characters and the actors and actresses playing them, so this latest episode just felt jarring to me.
That said, it was still a very well conceived and well written episode in and of itself, with exciting plot developments, so I'm sure I'll warm to the new versions of the characters in time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2022 10:07:02 GMT
Does it have the all the time jumps in the book or are we missing a lot of the in between bits in the show to streamline it?
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Post by cristar on Sept 30, 2022 10:19:42 GMT
That is something I've felt about this series so far and I reserve judgement until the end whether I think it is working or not; it does seem very focused on the events in King's Landing and this one family. We have mention of other families we know from GoT, but we aren't seeing them. Isn’t it called House of the Dragon it’s in the title it’s about this family. There are still plenty of people from the known houses from GoT in this though. Like Lannister, Martell, Tully, etc. At this time a lot of the wealthy and powerful houses are presumably wiped out by the time GoT happened. I also don't know if I love the time jump, though from what I have heard it is also in the book. The young Rhaenyra actress did look very young despite being in her 20s, but the Alicent actresses barely look different to me. Dunno if they could have aged them up, though from what I read it was the older versions which were casted first. |
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Post by darkling on Sept 30, 2022 11:11:58 GMT
Yeah I thought people's relative ages seemed all over the place. I was very confused as to who everybody was supposed to be for about 10 minutes.
... and that's before trying to work out the family tree, which I'm sure everyone will assure me is "simple" (after conducting hours of internet research) but it's really not, especially if you rely purely on the information you're told in the Game of Thrones or House of the Dragon TV series. I can't help but think it's unnecessarily complicated for what it is.
For example, my understanding of why Princess Rhaenyra was favoured as an heir over Aegon was apparently wrong. From what'd been said on screen, I thought it was purely because of his young age, but apparently it's more because Rhaenyra is a child of incest between Viserys and his cousin/first wife Aemma Arryn, therefore Rhaenyra has a purer Targaryen bloodline than Aegon (Aegon's mother Alicent Hightower is an outsider with no Targaryen bloodline).
I don't mind things being complicated, as long at the story gives you chance to understand it, but it doesn't.
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Post by cristar on Sept 30, 2022 11:19:21 GMT
Yeah there's plenty I don't understand too. I hadn't heard about her being Queen because of stronger Targaryen blood. I just thought it had been previously promised and he was sticking to it because he was a bit of a weak king. What I am confused about is why Alicent's children have the White Targaryen hair, yet Rhaenyra's children have dark hair. Is the males hair colour dominant? Is it because they are bastards? Is it just for plot reasons? Good Youtube channel Alt Shift X that does episode breakdowns, and general good GoT content if anyone is interested in such a thing. |
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Post by aubergine on Sept 30, 2022 11:40:49 GMT
It’s just a reversal of the GoT Season 1 thread with Robert Baratheon’s kids having the wrong hair colour and wrong father.
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 30, 2022 11:48:32 GMT
Yeah there's plenty I don't understand too. I hadn't heard about her being Queen because of stronger Targaryen blood. I just thought it had been previously promised and he was sticking to it because he was a bit of a weak king. What I am confused about is why Alicent's children have the White Targaryen hair, yet Rhaenyra's children have dark hair. Is the males hair colour dominant? Is it because they are bastards? Is it just for plot reasons? Good Youtube channel Alt Shift X that does episode breakdowns, and general good GoT content if anyone is interested in such a thing. This was pretty much my guess as to why Rhaenyra was still the heir, as well as the king feeling guilt about the death of his wife and her mother. I expect he is also wanting to continue pretending he made her heir because she was right for the job, rather than the real reason of sticking it to Daemon. On the spoiler, it's the bastard reason. Probably a bit of plot contrivance, but they are meant to very obviously not the children of her husband. Plus, it feeds into Alicent and her children feeling that their line has the rightful claim to the throne and that the Princess's children are not true Targaryens. The white hair is meant to be their defining feature. |
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Post by Dougs on Sept 30, 2022 12:28:16 GMT
Yes, that was very annoying. I understand why they did it, but it's also bollocks and doesn't stand up to any scientific examination. (yes, yes, show is about dragons etc).
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Post by Tuffty on Oct 1, 2022 16:44:14 GMT
Yes, that was very annoying. I understand why they did it, but it's also bollocks and doesn't stand up to any scientific examination. (yes, yes, show is about dragons etc). It's not just the genetic claim or personal desire for power that's fueling Alicent's agenda though. It's paranoia set in by her father that Rhaenerya will have her and the kids murdered to secure her claim. It's also the feeling that deep betrayal that Rhaenerya lied to her. |
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