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Post by simple on Dec 21, 2023 10:42:52 GMT
Do you think it was a “my kids loved the source material” project?
It is a massive outlier whatever the reason
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Post by drhickman1983 on Dec 22, 2023 10:56:37 GMT
I'm in the minority here but I do tend to like Synder's films. Yes, they're often pretty brain-dead but they have a visual flair I enjoy. And whilst the films he makes aren't classics, he does come across as quite nerdy and passionate about what he does.
He's basically a better Michael Bay in my opinion, not quite as seedy or right-wing (though it is hard to believe he's a democrat at times) and his action scenes are often very easy to follow. That goes a long way with somebody who makes action films, as it's something a lot of people get wrong.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Dec 22, 2023 11:05:30 GMT
Do you think it was a “my kids loved the source material” project? It is a massive outlier whatever the reason It was the first thing you said. I went to a movie convention with him in attendance many years ago just after he made Watchmen and this was his "one for him" movie.
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Post by clemfandango on Dec 22, 2023 11:09:41 GMT
I might not be smashing any looms yet but if I’m renting films from Prime or wherever I’ll usually go SD over HD and above because I like the grain and fuzziness and films looking like how I remember. I don’t want Aliens or Abyss or True Lies even to be given that stagey Neighbours/local news ‘too real’ fake looking feel or have them mangled into the uncanny valley just because James Cameron wants to be a low key George Lucas and tamper away. This should never happen, it sounds like you have left motion smoothing setting on on your TV.
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Post by clemfandango on Dec 22, 2023 11:11:34 GMT
The theory seems to be that cameron doesnt like film grain so in an effort to purge it from the movies everything gets kind of fucked up because its so pervasive. Everything looks like its set in the matrix now, its so grim. True lies has been on Disney plus for ages in 4K hasn't it?
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Post by stixxuk on Dec 22, 2023 11:11:59 GMT
Watched Dune again last night, it was ace. It's a modern classic and I can't wait for the sequel.
It's currently on Prime, where I must say the HDR10+ does it a hell of a lot more justice than the very dodgy HDR implementation on the Sky version when it came on there a few months ago.
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Post by Whizzo on Dec 22, 2023 11:17:07 GMT
I'm in the minority here but I do tend to like Synder's films. Yes, they're often pretty brain-dead but they have a visual flair I enjoy. I loved the visual flair of Army of the Dead, watching a film that simulated cataracts was genius. He should have sacked the cinematographer for that choice of lens but as it was him that would be tricky. He's DoP on his Rebel Moon films too...
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Post by clemfandango on Dec 22, 2023 11:17:15 GMT
I do wonder what these new Cameron remasters look like if you turn the HDR off. HDR if implemented badly can literally ruin the picture, their are loads of examples of this on Netflix and Disney plus
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Post by drhickman1983 on Dec 22, 2023 11:25:32 GMT
I'm in the minority here but I do tend to like Synder's films. Yes, they're often pretty brain-dead but they have a visual flair I enjoy. I loved the visual flair of Army of the Dead, watching a film that simulated cataracts was genius. He should have sacked the cinematographer for that choice of lens but as it was him that would be tricky. He's DoP on his Rebel Moon films too... Again, know I'm in the minority here but I honestly liked the exaggerated depth of field and pseduo-tilt-shift effect at times
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Post by dfunked on Dec 22, 2023 12:00:09 GMT
I do wonder what these new Cameron remasters look like if you turn the HDR off. HDR if implemented badly can literally ruin the picture, their are loads of examples of this on Netflix and Disney plus If it gets added by the display then presumably wouldn't be present on any screen grabs, which all looks shite.
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Post by Reviewer on Dec 22, 2023 12:06:14 GMT
15 minutes into Rebel Moon and so far there’s been slow motion seeds being thrown on the ground and the lead sniffing some mud.
Snyder films may have a certain style but he’d definitely be better if he has no involvement in the story or the editing, and he shouldn’t direct the talks bits either.
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Post by simple on Dec 22, 2023 12:17:16 GMT
I might not be smashing any looms yet but if I’m renting films from Prime or wherever I’ll usually go SD over HD and above because I like the grain and fuzziness and films looking like how I remember. I don’t want Aliens or Abyss or True Lies even to be given that stagey Neighbours/local news ‘too real’ fake looking feel or have them mangled into the uncanny valley just because James Cameron wants to be a low key George Lucas and tamper away. This should never happen, it sounds like you have left motion smoothing setting on on your TV. I don’t think so but I’ll take a look. Basically anything with the resolution right up has the effect on me that the Hobbit had on everyone else. Not just at home either.
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Post by clemfandango on Dec 22, 2023 17:47:28 GMT
This should never happen, it sounds like you have left motion smoothing setting on on your TV. I don’t think so but I’ll take a look. Basically anything with the resolution right up has the effect on me that the Hobbit had on everyone else. Not just at home either. Check your tv settings, it’s got different names on different TVs (true mouth, clear motion etc.) but that makes anything hd look like a 1980s soap opera
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Post by nexus6 on Dec 22, 2023 23:26:31 GMT
Turns out Muppets Christmas Carol has a deleted scene - a whole extra song with Scrooge and his fiancé.
It’s available in the extras part of D+
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Post by barchetta on Dec 28, 2023 11:15:44 GMT
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Post by Whizzo on Dec 28, 2023 12:04:07 GMT
I did wonder if that would cause some problems, the BBFC wasn't likely to change their mind on it.
What is getting a UK release next year is this.
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 17, 2024 20:00:42 GMT
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Post by britesparc on Jan 23, 2024 16:22:42 GMT
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Post by baihu1983 on Jan 23, 2024 17:43:00 GMT
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 23, 2024 18:19:29 GMT
Godzilla Minus One is easily one of the best films of 2023, glad to see it get some recognition.
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Post by rawshark on Jan 23, 2024 19:25:13 GMT
I was surprised Saltburn didn’t get a nod anywhere. Partially because it drove a lot of conversation, but more so because Emerald Fennell had a proven award record with Promising Young Woman.
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Post by britesparc on Jan 23, 2024 20:33:52 GMT
I haven't seen it yet, but I would say its critical response was fair-to-middling, it just happens to have struck a zeitgeisty chord with audiences.
And as we know, the Oscars don't give a toss about what audiences like.
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 23, 2024 20:37:27 GMT
It's got five BAFTA nominations though so there is that.
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Post by cubby on Jan 23, 2024 20:54:59 GMT
And as we know, the Oscars don't give a toss about what audiences like. It used to, between 1980 and 2003 the best picture winner was almost always in the top 20 grossing films of the year. After that the best picture winners are more in the top 50, 100 even. It's a distinct shift post 2004.
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Post by britesparc on Jan 23, 2024 21:11:41 GMT
And as we know, the Oscars don't give a toss about what audiences like. It used to, between 1980 and 2003 the best picture winner was almost always in the top 20 grossing films of the year. After that the best picture winners are more in the top 50, 100 even. It's a distinct shift post 2004. I was just thinking about that today. There's been this real shift towards what I guess you could call "worthy" or "arty" films. Even things like Chicago winning was at least a fun, rompy musical. I think you could argue that Everything Everywhere last year was a weird, fun, entertaining sci-fi film, but it's not like it made $750m. I wonder if a little bit of it is how, 20+ years ago, you'd get stuff like a John Grisham adaptation, or a serious Western, or a romantic comedy, in the top ten highest grossing films of the year, whereas now there's a definite divide (or there was until the box office went weird in 2023) between fantastical, money-making blockbusters and everything else.
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Post by Reviewer on Jan 23, 2024 22:04:01 GMT
Looking at the top box office for 2023 quite a few of the top 20 are nominated for something and it’s very obvious why the others aren’t. It’s not that different for 2022.
For 2023 the only two films in the top 20 that aren’t sequels, remakes or part of some other multi film franchise, are Oppenheimer and Barbie. One is a very serious drama and the other is Barbie. In 2022 Elvis is the only one.
The top 20 is filled with stuff that’s never going to get an Oscar - what makes money has changed, I’m not sure the Oscar’s has. Based on what’s popular I’m not sure they should unless Fast XV should be in with a chance of one.
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 23, 2024 22:12:49 GMT
Of the best picture nominations I've seen 5 of them (American Fiction, Barbie, Oppenheimer, Poor Things, The Zone of Interest), Barbie was the biggest film of 2023 and Oppenheimer was third so it's certainly ticking the boxes for stuff that's done well. American Fiction and The Zone of Interest haven't been released over here yet, they're both worth watching for very different reasons but I'd certainly pick the American Fiction over TZoI if you want a good time.
Must get around to Killers of the Flower Moon now it's on Apple, couldn't face that at the cinema.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jan 24, 2024 3:35:09 GMT
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 24, 2024 4:37:27 GMT
Have they though? Oppenheimer is probably the front-runner, and Barbie (the most profitable movie of last year) got a nomination too.
And even if Oscars and moviegoing tastes have parted ways... so what? Does he want the Oscars to turn into the MTV movie awards? Why does a popular blockbuster need to win awards anyway, isn't being popular and making hundreds of millions of dollars reward enough?
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Post by britesparc on Jan 24, 2024 6:51:15 GMT
I think it would be alright if the best "popular" films were in contention for awards, but they rarely are. There has been a gulf between what people are watching and what's getting nominated in a way there hasn't been for most of my life and I think some of that is probably a bit of snobbery.
However, I do wonder if we're moving past that, because you're right that this year two of the biggest films have been nominated, one will probably win, and last year a sci-fi action movie with a dildo fight swept the board.
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