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Post by JYM60 on Oct 11, 2021 10:31:54 GMT
24 Season 2 Really good. I was hooked as I was first time round. Pretty much binged the whole season. It's a proper step up from the first season and it just literally 15/24 episodes where ass temps are turned up to maximum. A lot of the later seasons felt tired when delivering their..almost episodic twists, but here they mostly work and just deliver great entertainment. The Kim storyline is a shocker, and its almost funny what they put her through and I think the writers know this by the end. As a few laugh out moments (Miguel kung fu stance and kick) and quite a lot of general bad ass Jack Bauer moments. It does lose steam a little bit towards the end and they try to drag it out to the full 24 episodes (although the political side is actually well done and well used) but its good fun and nice to be reminded how good 24 was at one point. 5/5 The Kim storyline is almost as bad as the Mums one in the first. I liked 24 S1. But I never watched another season of it because of the 'twist'/mum storyline. It just annoyed me. |
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Oct 11, 2021 11:34:44 GMT
Succession S1: I'm rewatching in anticipation of S3.
Not much to say except it remains brilliant, with a perfect cast delivering consistently sharp, hilarious dialogue. I have never enjoyed spending so much time with such a bunch of reprobates.
Totally rewatchable.
S2 here we come.
Fuck Off/10
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Post by Danno on Oct 11, 2021 12:40:50 GMT
Not a series per se, but James Acaster's Repertoire shows on Netflix.
Very funny, but it was a mistake to binge it, as I wasn't paying all that much attention to the last one. Will definitely rewatch at some point. Four hours of the same comic is too much of a good thing.
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Post by anephric on Oct 11, 2021 12:54:32 GMT
Midnight Mass - 8/10 I couldn't take my eyes off of it at some parts, I loved some of the debate about religion and the conversations between Erin and Riley about death were very well realised and acted. I think, like Flanagan, because I was raised strict Roman Catholic, a lot of the morbidity of that religion and the endless being hit over the head about concupiscence, transubstantiation, confession etc, the bits that show how ridiculous these notions are I still find very engaging. My missus was bored shitless during the religious discussions/monologues (and especially so when I started to explain the Damascene Moment and Lot's Wife etc) so I think YMMV based on that. In the same way that Catholics and lapsed Catholics find The Exorcist a lot more unnerving than irreligious people who wonder what all the fuss is about. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2021 13:27:06 GMT
I've got 2 episodes of Midnight Mass left. I think it's fantastic.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2021 13:31:17 GMT
Best Stephen King adaptation ever for my money. Which is even more impressive when it's not a Stephen King adaptation.
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Post by clemfandango on Oct 11, 2021 13:36:53 GMT
Best Stephen King adaptation ever for my money. Which is even more impressive when it's not a Stephen King adaptation. Nonsense nothing will ever better Sleepwalkers |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2021 16:46:45 GMT
Squid game.
Loved it. Shit the bed a little at the end but my word episode 6 is one of my favourite episodes of TV in years.
I will jump on the subs bandwagon a bit. They really were terrible. Didn't realise I accidentally did close caption at first switched to subs and it was entirely different dialogue.
And my word, the English actors were ridiculously bad.
9/10 for me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2021 18:15:08 GMT
Vigil
Murder investigation in an underwater office block, featuring VIth form arguments around nuclear disarmament. Background research (notably costumes, RN routines and practices, and literally anything technical at all) by those two guys from Mitchell and Webb who eat cereal out of the packet while wearing their pyjamas.
3 (non-commissioned officers bizarrely wearing able ratings No. 1 uniform) / 10.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2021 18:20:31 GMT
I recognise some of those words.
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Post by rawshark on Oct 11, 2021 23:44:22 GMT
My Hero Academia S5
A strange season in that it is devoted to filling out the supporting cast. It actually works very well, with the weakest episodes being based around the usual suspects.
I guess that’s the problem with MHA, the main characters are the least interesting. Bakuga is so bloody tiresome. I keep hoping he’ll be a surprise death one episode. Any ep without Bakuga telling someone to die is a good episode.
With that in mind 7/10
Can cancel Funimation for the time being now.
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Post by MysteryLamb on Oct 12, 2021 0:56:40 GMT
Is this a safe space to criticise 24? Constructive criticism of course.
It's shit.
I just wish the super modern open plan offices had a few more people hurriedly rushing past in the background.
A close friend has tried repeatedly to get me to watch it. Which I have for her, over half way into S2, but no more. The line is drawn. A friendship might be over.
Chin up.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 12, 2021 0:59:16 GMT
I once binge watched an entire season of 24 dvds in a weekend, finished the season and immediately went on ebay and ordered the next season.
I obviously had a lot more disposable income and free time then!
Binge watching was a lot more expensive before streaming services!
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 12, 2021 4:40:01 GMT
Eh, I remember it being good fun. It's the sort of thing that you watch with friends or housemates, taking shots every time Jack says DAMNIT CHLOE. Or taking bets on who the mole in CSU is (there's always at least one), or who's going to die.
I don't know if I'd ever watch it again, but I enjoyed it at the specific time in my life that I watched it.
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Post by lexw on Oct 12, 2021 16:18:41 GMT
Midnight Mass - 8/10 I couldn't take my eyes off of it at some parts, I loved some of the debate about religion and the conversations between Erin and Riley about death were very well realised and acted. I think, like Flanagan, because I was raised strict Roman Catholic, a lot of the morbidity of that religion and the endless being hit over the head about concupiscence, transubstantiation, confession etc, the bits that show how ridiculous these notions are I still find very engaging. My missus was bored shitless during the religious discussions/monologues (and especially so when I started to explain the Damascene Moment and Lot's Wife etc) so I think YMMV based on that. In the same way that Catholics and lapsed Catholics find The Exorcist a lot more unnerving than irreligious people who wonder what all the fuss is about. I was raised agnostic as can be, was Christened but never once went to Church for anything but a funeral or wedding, but I think because I've always found comparative religion fascinating, I absolutely loved all that stuff. I felt like it was on track to be 10/10 but I think I can say without spoilers that the ending was overly neat and whilst defiant of genre convention also sort of defied common sense and suspension of disbelief for me, bringing it down to overall an 8/10. It was certainly tremendous for most of the run, especially the monologues. EDIT just to expand on that a bit (huge spoilers)
Specifically the whole conceit that, because they'd burned the buildings and the boats, there was nowhere to hide from the sun and it was all over, so I guess we might as well all chill and near-literally sing kumbaya. Setting fire to a building doesn't magically cause it to vapourize instantly. Buildings would have burned out, collapsed, exploded (presumably a lot of gas canisters etc., I know the rural US), doors and wooden sidings would have fallen off, there'd be tarps that were over things and not on fire, crawl-spaces beneath the buildings (which we could see in some cases), barrels, upturned boats (which might be holed or burned and not seaworthy, but certainly hide-able under), basically their activities would have left a gigantic amount of debris that vampires could hide under, as it was established you need pretty direct sunlight to burn them.
It's certainly plausible most or many of the vampires would have voluntarily burned up after all that trauma, but all? No way, and the idea was clearly that even those who sought shelter wouldn't find it - except, they probably would have, so the kids coming back to shore or anyone coming to investigate (as would happen immediately in the morning when the smoke plumes were seen, even if somehow no-one noticed this visible-from-shore island was entirely on fire over night - and all contact had been lost) would be having to deal with at least quite a few hiding vampires.
The show was trying to make the sole threat be "Did the master vampire make it to land" (I agree with the assessment of "quite likely not", he seemed to be doing about 30-50mph (impressive with his wings in that state!) but it's 30 miles to shore and he only had about 15 minutes - maybe he could just submerge though?), and I just was kind of surprised they went this way when they'd previously stuck to sort of serious physical and mental realism.
Two other things - I totally didn't buy that Erin knew all that stuff from her speech at the end - she didn't exactly seem the scientific type. Still a lovely monologue. And oh my god when the master vampire was dressed in Church robes, why could we know have had the undoubtedly utterly hysterical scene where they convinced him to wear them, or manhandled him into them, it would have been amazing. I giggled pretty hard imagining that when I saw him in them.
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Post by rawshark on Oct 12, 2021 20:57:10 GMT
I think, like Flanagan, because I was raised strict Roman Catholic, a lot of the morbidity of that religion and the endless being hit over the head about concupiscence, transubstantiation, confession etc, the bits that show how ridiculous these notions are I still find very engaging. My missus was bored shitless during the religious discussions/monologues (and especially so when I started to explain the Damascene Moment and Lot's Wife etc) so I think YMMV based on that. In the same way that Catholics and lapsed Catholics find The Exorcist a lot more unnerving than irreligious people who wonder what all the fuss is about. I was raised agnostic as can be, was Christened but never once went to Church for anything but a funeral or wedding, but I think because I've always found comparative religion fascinating, I absolutely loved all that stuff. I felt like it was on track to be 10/10 but I think I can say without spoilers that the ending was overly neat and whilst defiant of genre convention also sort of defied common sense and suspension of disbelief for me, bringing it down to overall an 8/10. It was certainly tremendous for most of the run, especially the monologues. EDIT just to expand on that a bit (huge spoilers)
Specifically the whole conceit that, because they'd burned the buildings and the boats, there was nowhere to hide from the sun and it was all over, so I guess we might as well all chill and near-literally sing kumbaya. Setting fire to a building doesn't magically cause it to vapourize instantly. Buildings would have burned out, collapsed, exploded (presumably a lot of gas canisters etc., I know the rural US), doors and wooden sidings would have fallen off, there'd be tarps that were over things and not on fire, crawl-spaces beneath the buildings (which we could see in some cases), barrels, upturned boats (which might be holed or burned and not seaworthy, but certainly hide-able under), basically their activities would have left a gigantic amount of debris that vampires could hide under, as it was established you need pretty direct sunlight to burn them.
It's certainly plausible most or many of the vampires would have voluntarily burned up after all that trauma, but all? No way, and the idea was clearly that even those who sought shelter wouldn't find it - except, they probably would have, so the kids coming back to shore or anyone coming to investigate (as would happen immediately in the morning when the smoke plumes were seen, even if somehow no-one noticed this visible-from-shore island was entirely on fire over night - and all contact had been lost) would be having to deal with at least quite a few hiding vampires.
The show was trying to make the sole threat be "Did the master vampire make it to land" (I agree with the assessment of "quite likely not", he seemed to be doing about 30-50mph (impressive with his wings in that state!) but it's 30 miles to shore and he only had about 15 minutes - maybe he could just submerge though?), and I just was kind of surprised they went this way when they'd previously stuck to sort of serious physical and mental realism.
Two other things - I totally didn't buy that Erin knew all that stuff from her speech at the end - she didn't exactly seem the scientific type. Still a lovely monologue. And oh my god when the master vampire was dressed in Church robes, why could we know have had the undoubtedly utterly hysterical scene where they convinced him to wear them, or manhandled him into them, it would have been amazing. I giggled pretty hard imagining that when I saw him in them.
I don’t think you can poke holes in it too vigorously. It’s a bit like watching Rocky and asking how he finished the match despite blocking every punch with his head. |
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Oct 12, 2021 21:08:11 GMT
With Squid Game, I didn't understand why the VIPs were all terrible actors - the main Korean actors were fine but it was as if they just used people around the office who happen to be English and up for some fun with masks.
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Post by anephric on Oct 12, 2021 21:50:56 GMT
With Squid Game, I didn't understand why the VIPs were all terrible actors - the main Korean actors were fine but it was as if they just used people around the office who happen to be English and up for some fun with masks. In the same way the same five US actors turned up in every British TV series, there's a limited pool that live here. How many Caucasian actors are there knocking around in South Korea? Especially during a pandemic? |
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 12, 2021 21:56:10 GMT
They probably just hired guys off the street. You don't have to pay them as much, and your local audience won't be able to tell if they're any good or not.
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Post by Frog on Oct 12, 2021 21:58:04 GMT
Yeah, they were jarringly bad, they always are in Korean shows.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 13, 2021 5:09:05 GMT
With Squid Game, I didn't understand why the VIPs were all terrible actors - the main Korean actors were fine but it was as if they just used people around the office who happen to be English and up for some fun with masks. They probably just hired guys off the street. You don't have to pay them as much, and your local audience won't be able to tell if they're any good or not. This is how it usually goes. A lot of the English/US characters in Japanese dramas seem to be just played by random English Teachers they found on the street. There also seems to be some expectation that they should act in the Japanese style... ie: horribly overact and intone in ways that English speakers usually don't. I assume Korean dramas are the same. But that's just for a domestic market who won't notice. Given that this was for Netflix, you'd think they'd have put in a bit more effort. To be fair, they sometimes think the same about the 'Japanese' characters that are in western dramas. I think it was Heroes where the secondary 'japanese' character was portrayed by a Korean. Or something like Memoirs of a Geisha where the 2 main actors were chinese... or the characters are portrayed by Japanese-americans who actually don't come across as very Japanese. |
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 13, 2021 5:18:01 GMT
I'm not entirely sure that the people who made Squid Game were ever thinking "hey let's make this for an international audience", even though it was on Netflix - though I guess it depends how centralised Netflix is. Is there a Netflix Korea that just focuses on that market?
There'd be heaps of Korean dramas on Netflix, and I don't think most would have a lot of appeal outside of Korea and Japan.
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Post by Frog on Oct 13, 2021 5:44:57 GMT
There are literally hundreds of k-dramas on Netflix. Also people use things like dramacool to watch them the day after they show in Korea. They are actually quite a big thing worldwide.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 13, 2021 5:48:43 GMT
Well there you go! I didn't know that!  I still don't know if they'd be specifically produced with international audiences in mind, though. Maybe more of a "Oh... so foreigners like this stuff? Ok cool, guess we'll pay for some subtitles then". At least they probably don't care enough to hire professional Western actors. |
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Post by Frog on Oct 13, 2021 5:51:49 GMT
Oh yeah it's very much for themselves, I dont think they have ever made a drama with a view to a worldwide audience.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 13, 2021 5:54:33 GMT
Which is fair enough.
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Post by Danno on Oct 13, 2021 6:01:12 GMT
I was raised agnostic as can be, was Christened but never once went to Church for anything but a funeral or wedding, but I think because I've always found comparative religion fascinating, I absolutely loved all that stuff. I felt like it was on track to be 10/10 but I think I can say without spoilers that the ending was overly neat and whilst defiant of genre convention also sort of defied common sense and suspension of disbelief for me, bringing it down to overall an 8/10. It was certainly tremendous for most of the run, especially the monologues. EDIT just to expand on that a bit (huge spoilers)
Specifically the whole conceit that, because they'd burned the buildings and the boats, there was nowhere to hide from the sun and it was all over, so I guess we might as well all chill and near-literally sing kumbaya. Setting fire to a building doesn't magically cause it to vapourize instantly. Buildings would have burned out, collapsed, exploded (presumably a lot of gas canisters etc., I know the rural US), doors and wooden sidings would have fallen off, there'd be tarps that were over things and not on fire, crawl-spaces beneath the buildings (which we could see in some cases), barrels, upturned boats (which might be holed or burned and not seaworthy, but certainly hide-able under), basically their activities would have left a gigantic amount of debris that vampires could hide under, as it was established you need pretty direct sunlight to burn them.
It's certainly plausible most or many of the vampires would have voluntarily burned up after all that trauma, but all? No way, and the idea was clearly that even those who sought shelter wouldn't find it - except, they probably would have, so the kids coming back to shore or anyone coming to investigate (as would happen immediately in the morning when the smoke plumes were seen, even if somehow no-one noticed this visible-from-shore island was entirely on fire over night - and all contact had been lost) would be having to deal with at least quite a few hiding vampires.
The show was trying to make the sole threat be "Did the master vampire make it to land" (I agree with the assessment of "quite likely not", he seemed to be doing about 30-50mph (impressive with his wings in that state!) but it's 30 miles to shore and he only had about 15 minutes - maybe he could just submerge though?), and I just was kind of surprised they went this way when they'd previously stuck to sort of serious physical and mental realism.
Two other things - I totally didn't buy that Erin knew all that stuff from her speech at the end - she didn't exactly seem the scientific type. Still a lovely monologue. And oh my god when the master vampire was dressed in Church robes, why could we know have had the undoubtedly utterly hysterical scene where they convinced him to wear them, or manhandled him into them, it would have been amazing. I giggled pretty hard imagining that when I saw him in them.
I don’t think you can poke holes in it too vigorously. It’s a bit like watching Rocky and asking how he finished the match despite blocking every punch with his head. My new favourite analogy |
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Post by mrpon on Oct 13, 2021 7:42:58 GMT
Was talking to my daughter (11) about Squid last night. She knew everything about it! I'm like, what?! how do you know all this?! She then proceeded to show me the SG game on Roblox and the millions of reenactments on YouTube/TikTok.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Oct 13, 2021 7:46:05 GMT
Our son's primary school sent around a warning yesterday about "quite shocking" Squid Game content in Roblox.
Of course, now everyone is checking it out.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 13, 2021 8:05:17 GMT
There are literally hundreds of k-dramas on Netflix. Yeah, I started watching them in lockdown after I completed english netflix. Can recommend: Uncanny Counter Sweet Home Sisyphus Hell is other people And Kingdom, obviously. |
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