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Post by Dougs on Sept 30, 2021 8:52:44 GMT
Speaking of dips in quality, Downton Abbey S1-3 have been thoroughly enjoyable but two episodes into season 4 and the quality of the writing has taken a noticeable dive. Wife and I both blurted out "This is fucking stupid!" at precisely the same time during last night's viewing. Yeah think I gave up on that at a similar point too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 8:55:58 GMT
Dexter: Season 4. Excellent. I'm now moving into the territory you lot are telling me is pants! we shall see. Episode 1 of 5 was fine. I don't know about anyone else but I found it very hard to move past his missus being murdered. It was so brutal and visceral and properly shocking - just didn't really want to watch any more. I got about halfway through S5 but just didn't care. I have heard that it declines quite rapidly after S5 The seasons after 4 are OK but it completely jumps the shark when they make Debs fall in love with Dexter and that she's always been in love with him. It was an idiotic decision. The last 2 seasons are truly awful quality wise too.
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Post by Dougs on Sept 30, 2021 8:57:08 GMT
Ha, I didn't know that - that is fucking stupid.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 30, 2021 9:44:27 GMT
Midnight Mass - A really hard one to judge. As a big Stephen King fan this, for me, crossed over the 'homage' line and into this is just Salems Lot with more talking. Theres even the hyper-religious ticking timebomb. But outside of that... its ok? I dunno. Its so talky. Literally 80% of it is shot/reverse shot of two people talking to each other for five minutes at a time. Then two other people talk to each other. Then two other people. Then jump scare/plot twist and credits. And the plot runs on stupid and hinges on everyone being as dumb as possible at all times. But that may well just be a clever commentary on religion, so a pass for that one I suppose. But I watched it almost compulsively (while on my phone during the likes of the 'what happens when you die' monologues). It does a superb (if slightly dishonest) fakeout and everything escalates nicely until everything explodes at the end, so it did pull me along, albeit with me dipping in and out of some of the more tedious scenes. And it looks and sounds superb Like I say, its hard to rate. Its not as good as hill house (but does suffer that same early 'boooooooooring' dip) but is better than Bly house. 6/10 (maybe a seven if you dig meditations on what it is to believe in god)
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Post by simple on Sept 30, 2021 15:46:33 GMT
Enterprise season 2 (netflix)
The show really grows legs in this season, the episodes have a quicker pace, the characters all show more personality, the production design feels fuller and more colourful, the plots more Treky and the Temporal Cold War stuff is massively reduced in prominence.
Still some issues of it being notably dated in places and its not a great place to be a female character but its a much livelier show. Took me three days to do the whole thing so I’m obviously enjoying it.
8/10
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Post by jono62 on Sept 30, 2021 16:32:30 GMT
Dexter: Season 4. Excellent. I'm now moving into the territory you lot are telling me is pants! we shall see. Episode 1 of 5 was fine. Don't do it Duff!
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Post by Duffman5 on Sept 30, 2021 18:34:49 GMT
Hi mate Haha
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Post by brokenkey on Sept 30, 2021 18:48:15 GMT
Squid game 9/10 Tremendous stuff, watched the full 9 episodes in two days, I don’t do that very often. I would have preferred the Social commentary to be a bit heavier as the reason behind it all isn’t as hard hitting as I hoped and a bit Predictable. But they are small minus points in an otherwise great show. Do not watch it dubbed... Is that just snobbery? I head the dub was pretty good.
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Post by Techno Hippy on Sept 30, 2021 18:58:38 GMT
Next you will tell us you haven't watched succession. I haven't, I keep seeing it listed on Now, but the description turns me off.
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Post by Frog on Sept 30, 2021 19:04:36 GMT
Get it watched mate, if the description is putting you off it's wrong
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Post by clemfandango on Sept 30, 2021 19:13:35 GMT
Squid game 9/10 Tremendous stuff, watched the full 9 episodes in two days, I don’t do that very often. I would have preferred the Social commentary to be a bit heavier as the reason behind it all isn’t as hard hitting as I hoped and a bit Predictable. But they are small minus points in an otherwise great show. Do not watch it dubbed... Is that just snobbery? I head the dub was pretty good. Possibly but surely you want to watch the proper version as envisaged by the creators and director and not a dubbed version with western accents not synching with the picture?
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 30, 2021 19:23:12 GMT
The dub is fine. Dont be a fanny.
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Post by Dougs on Sept 30, 2021 19:28:44 GMT
I am definitely a fanny when it's comes to dubbing and almost refuse to watch anything other than the original. But then I am less likely to watch it as I'm always tired and lazy so...
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 30, 2021 19:34:46 GMT
I generally prefer the dub as I prefer to look at more than 8% of the screen when I'm watching something.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 19:37:02 GMT
I'd much prefer to watch a dub but I've hated every single one I've ever tried.
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Sept 30, 2021 19:37:40 GMT
If people want to watch it dubbed so be it. I'm not a fan of dubbed audio but I am not about to tell people what to do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 19:40:49 GMT
Oh yeah I couldn't give the slightest fuck how other people watch it.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 30, 2021 19:40:59 GMT
The main problem with dubs is that there only seem to be eight english voice actors available for the entirety of the foreign language entertainment industry.
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Post by f00b_inc on Sept 30, 2021 20:28:08 GMT
Have to admit I have an aversion to dubs but do find when I'm tired I end up watching something else instead. Two episodes in on Squid Game after the recommendations here though and enjoying it so far!
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Post by clemfandango on Sept 30, 2021 20:29:49 GMT
Good to know there are a few other dub fannys out there :-)
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Post by スコットランド on Sept 30, 2021 20:37:30 GMT
Dubs are always shit, in every language. I'm always amazed at how bad they are, you walk into a room and can hear immediately if it's a dub. Doesn't matter the language, always shit, oh look, a Samurai warlord with a wooden cockney accent, how immersive. I've no idea why when there are amazing voice actors, just look at gaming (sometimes) nowadays.
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Post by simple on Sept 30, 2021 20:47:32 GMT
I know cartoons are different but all the Ghibli dubs are excellent
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Post by minimatt on Sept 30, 2021 21:15:19 GMT
Dubs? Really? We're classier than that aren't we?
Don't you find it distracting, the sounds not matching the err mouth shapes?
Team subs all the way. Sounds rude.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 21:16:41 GMT
Plus you get to pick up cool words from different languages.
I'm basically fluent in swearing in Italian because of Gomorrah.
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Post by Frog on Sept 30, 2021 21:19:42 GMT
I can't do dubs either, it feels like you lose all of the feeling from a scene.
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Post by minimatt on Sept 30, 2021 21:28:00 GMT
Plus you get to pick up cool words from different languages. I'm basically fluent in swearing in Italian because of Gomorrah. Exactly, been trying to teach myself Swedish through the medium of scandi-noir for years now
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Sept 30, 2021 21:44:17 GMT
I watch pretty much all TV with subtitles on these days - just got used to them when my son was young.
Do get some weird ones, like Rosemary's Baby opening with "(OMINOUS MUSIC)"
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Post by Frog on Sept 30, 2021 21:45:36 GMT
My German came on leaps and bounds from 1980's porn.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 30, 2021 22:26:16 GMT
Dubs are always shit, in every language. I also used to be very anti-dub. Subs all the way. But I realised that nobody was actually impressed by that so I started watching things how I wanted rather than pretending one was actually any better than the other.
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 1, 2021 6:33:15 GMT
I do prefer subtitles but there’s nothing wrong with dubs, especially when done well. With subtitles you miss a lot of the show just from reading through it all, usually ahead of where the actors are.
Try them on an English show and you’ll find how much you miss of the actual program.
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