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Post by Dougs on Sept 14, 2024 6:43:29 GMT
I'd had a few last night and ordered this and Empire. Less than a fiver. Who doesn't want the best films ever 3 times over?! (Would be 4 but the VHS went long ago). |
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Post by malek86 on Sept 14, 2024 7:07:13 GMT
Iirc those releases were in non-anamorphic widescreen. Leave it to George Lucas to ruin a re-release in some unexpected way.
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Post by Dougs on Sept 14, 2024 7:10:11 GMT
But they won't have unnecessary shit added.
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Post by simple on Sept 14, 2024 7:40:27 GMT
Rita, Sue and Bob, Too - Man, I love this movie. It reminds me so much of growing up in that era around that location. Not that I got nonced by a middle aged man pretending to be 25, I just recognise every character in there. From the people living in the shitholes to the new-build dwellers who think they are so much better. And I like how there isn't really a message (apparently a change from the original play), a statement or really even a plot. Stuff just happens and then they get a happy ending. 8/10 There’s an interesting book called Black Teeth and a Brilliant Smile which is a dramatised biography of Andrea Dunbar by Adelle Stripe. She had a rough life. |
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Post by rawshark on Sept 14, 2024 7:55:11 GMT
Does anyone remember how in the first cgi re-release of A New Hope how they had just forgotten what Jabba the Hutt looked like? The amount of revisions the films have had are basically a confession that the bits they added looked crap.
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Post by rawshark on Sept 14, 2024 7:57:40 GMT
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Post by cubby on Sept 14, 2024 9:30:34 GMT
I'd had a few last night and ordered this and Empire. Less than a fiver. Who doesn't want the best films ever 3 times over?! (Would be 4 but the VHS went long ago). I was perfectly sober and bought the first one, just to see how it is. What are the odds that Disney finally release the originals in 2027? |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 14, 2024 9:48:39 GMT
And yet even with all the fixes it's a pointless scene that just repeats stuff from the previous scene and messes with the pacing. It was cut for a reason. |
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Post by cubby on Sept 14, 2024 10:00:04 GMT
Exactly, it's an example of Lucas's penchant for world building when it's doesn't add anything story wise, which the likes of Marcia Lucas rightly cut out. Lucas then got more and more control and no longer had Marcia saying all the superfluous crap needs cutting.
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Post by britesparc on Sept 14, 2024 10:52:39 GMT
I'm not one who shits on the special editions (I like all the different versions of Star Wars), but I agree the Jabba scene is superfluous, regardless of quality. That being said, making him a hologram is such an elegant solution and I think we'd have all preferred it in 1997.
Am I mistaken, or wasn't the Greedo scene written entirely because they didn't think they could get the Jabba scene to work? And that's why the two scenes basically repeat all the same plot points?
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Post by malek86 on Sept 14, 2024 12:33:28 GMT
I'm not one who shits on the special editions (I like all the different versions of Star Wars), but I agree the Jabba scene is superfluous, regardless of quality. That being said, making him a hologram is such an elegant solution and I think we'd have all preferred it in 1997. Am I mistaken, or wasn't the Greedo scene written entirely because they didn't think they could get the Jabba scene to work? And that's why the two scenes basically repeat all the same plot points? Well, if you ask me, the Greedo scene was written so that people could see that Han was someone who would shoot first. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 14, 2024 14:28:13 GMT
It’s 2010s but do Happy Death Day anyway.
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Post by addyb on Sept 14, 2024 18:35:28 GMT
Rita, Sue and Bob, Too - Man, I love this movie. It reminds me so much of growing up in that era around that location. Not that I got nonced by a middle aged man pretending to be 25, I just recognise every character in there. From the people living in the shitholes to the new-build dwellers who think they are so much better. And I like how there isn't really a message (apparently a change from the original play), a statement or really even a plot. Stuff just happens and then they get a happy ending. 8/10 The pissed up Dad is easily the best part. "What fucking cookery money?" |
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Post by Lukus on Sept 14, 2024 18:44:12 GMT
Carrying on the theme of Lucas fucking around with everything, I've just got back from Empire, and I'm pretty sure there's some dialogue been added, since the special editions even. When R2 is hacking into the security on Cloud City they shoehorn in a line about the hyperdrive (because apparently that needs to be there so it makes sense later on on the ship), and at the end they appear to have added a dub for Luke basically going "meet you at Jabba the Hutt's in a bit lol".
Of course, I could just have forgotten these were in there before, but either way I feel like I'm being gaslighted by George, the daft twat.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 14, 2024 18:55:34 GMT
Ideal world:
A New Hope, with no changes from the original version apart from the holo-Jabba from the fan edit as seen a few posts above, and with Scene 38 re-imagined inserted into the cut.
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 14, 2024 19:24:10 GMT
Ideal world for me, the Star Wars theatrical release gets released and it's been remastered and that's it. For those wondering if the non-anamorphic release on the DVD is the original this is from my copy, it's watchable but on a big screen it's going to look a bit on the crappy side.
There's a reason I never refer to this film as A New Hope...
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Post by cubby on Sept 14, 2024 19:26:01 GMT
Carrying on the theme of Lucas fucking around with everything, I've just got back from Empire, and I'm pretty sure there's some dialogue been added, since the special editions even. When R2 is hacking into the security on Cloud City they shoehorn in a line about the hyperdrive (because apparently that needs to be there so it makes sense later on on the ship), and at the end they appear to have added a dub for Luke basically going "meet you at Jabba the Hutt's in a bit lol". Of course, I could just have forgotten these were in there before, but either way I feel like I'm being gaslighted by George, the daft twat. Is that luke bit when he's talking to chewie and lando over the radio link? Because he does say "I'll meet you at the rendezvous point on Tatooine." it's just not a line that gets much focus. |
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Post by cubby on Sept 14, 2024 19:30:13 GMT
Ideal world for me, the Star Wars theatrical release gets released and it's been remastered and that's it. For those wondering if the non-anamorphic release on the DVD is the original this is from my copy, it's watchable but on a big screen it's going to look a bit on the crappy side.
There's a reason I never refer to this film as A New Hope...
What's frustrating is that they say a clean version doesn't exist as the masters were destroyed after they created the special edition versions. I just don't understand how they didn't make a copy that was just the cleaned up version and saved a copy of that, before then adding all the extra guff on a different version. |
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 14, 2024 19:32:21 GMT
I'm sure it's Lucas being Lucas, there's no fucking way there's not a decent print out there somewhere.
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Post by Lukus on Sept 14, 2024 20:21:25 GMT
Carrying on the theme of Lucas fucking around with everything, I've just got back from Empire, and I'm pretty sure there's some dialogue been added, since the special editions even. When R2 is hacking into the security on Cloud City they shoehorn in a line about the hyperdrive (because apparently that needs to be there so it makes sense later on on the ship), and at the end they appear to have added a dub for Luke basically going "meet you at Jabba the Hutt's in a bit lol". Of course, I could just have forgotten these were in there before, but either way I feel like I'm being gaslighted by George, the daft twat. Is that luke bit when he's talking to chewie and lando over the radio link? Because he does say "I'll meet you at the rendezvous point on Tatooine." it's just not a line that gets much focus. I think you're right, I looked it up before seeing your reply and I can't see any mention of it being added. It's weird how the brain works! Though it's remarkable how much stuff he has continued to add since 1997. starwars.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases |
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Post by Samildanach on Sept 14, 2024 21:36:22 GMT
Just re-watched Alien Covenant and if I go with the following two ideas:
1) the planet and destroyed civilization they discover is simply another humanoid civilization created by the far more ancient and technologically advanced Engineers, rather than the Engineers themselves. This solves the issue of them all looking slightly different and diminished and especially explains how technologically backward they appear to be.
2) David is not the original creator of the xenomorph. He simply experiments with the black goo, follows blueprints set in the alien ship, until finally replicating the xenomorph successfully.
There are still issues with the film (stupid crew and of course the fingering...) but at least with the above concepts it doesn't ruin the original films.
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Post by cubby on Sept 14, 2024 21:51:18 GMT
The fingering's the best bit!
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 14, 2024 21:54:55 GMT
It’s really mixed messages on the black goo. On the one hand, the engineer seemingly uses it to seed all life on earth and on the other hand, everything it touches turns into a monster.
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Post by rawshark on Sept 14, 2024 21:57:33 GMT
One thing that I love about Star Wars is that it’s a series that fans can “fix”. I’ve thought long and hard about how I could fix something like Spider-Man 3 and… you just can’t. So much needs redoing. But edits of even Phantom Menace show there is something approaching redeemable in there.
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Post by Lizard on Sept 14, 2024 22:09:28 GMT
It’s really mixed messages on the black goo. On the one hand, the engineer seemingly uses it to seed all life on earth and on the other hand, everything it touches turns into a monster. Because we're the real monster, Nick. It's profound. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 14, 2024 22:22:46 GMT
Omg. It’s like poetry
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Post by Lukus on Sept 14, 2024 22:47:35 GMT
The goo is cum, but it's black
Fin
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Post by Tomo on Sept 14, 2024 22:53:41 GMT
Hell Jumper - 9/10
Very bleak, and maybe uplifting depending on your outlook, documentary about a British man who goes to Ukraine to evacuate civilians stuck on the frontline. It's a mix of interviews with his family, girlfriend and fellow Hell Jumpers combined with some extraordinary footage from the Go-Pro permanently attached to him during each of his runs.
Some astonishing bits where he knocks on doors in partially blown out buildings and someone opens the door politely telling him he's got the wrong address, like he's an Evri courier who made a simple mistake.
A very moving story.
Frances Ha - 8/10
Greta Gerwig as a doolally 20-something in NYC flying through her days trying to make sense of life. Wasn't sure at first. Seemed like quite an insufferable group of friends, but they grew on me. Gerwig's character is reassuringly socially awkward but quite endearing with it.
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Post by Binky on Sept 15, 2024 7:13:20 GMT
Dumb Money (now on Prime)
Reddit vs. Wall Street. I didn’t really know much about what happened here and found the movie both interesting and entertaining. Great performances and really well shot. In fact, it reminded me of The Social Network in the way it was directed and the cinematography. It made me smile when I saw what the novel was called at the end.
8/10
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Post by clemfandango on Sept 15, 2024 10:36:04 GMT
Longlegs - 8.5/10
Errr, what did I just watch. It’s really just a serial killer thriller at heart, but it’s produced with a real horror element and a strange detachment at the same time. It’s very slow in parts too.
However some of the scenes are absolutely amazing and nic cage is fantastic in it., plus it all comes together brilliantly at the end.
Recommended
Antebellum - 8/10
Probably the most Jordan peele not Jordan peele movie I’ve ever seen. Can’t say much other than it’s probably hated by everything republican in the USA. It’s set in the us civil war and time hops, nasty confederates a plenty and it’s quite brutal in parts.
I really enjoyed it, but it’s not subtle
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