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Post by Aunt Alison on Apr 7, 2022 19:10:37 GMT
Thanks, partner!
Nice shot!
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 7, 2022 20:07:45 GMT
Resi 5 is an excellent co-op game, it's single player can be somewhat frustrating with an AI partner that is definitely not the smartest. It's also the most meme worthy of the Resi games for better of for worse.
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Post by alcachofa on Apr 7, 2022 20:33:08 GMT
Resi 5 drifted in action flick territory even further than Resi 4, so I kind of understand the backlash. But I agree, great game with excellent co-op.
Also, I remember there was quite a shitstorm in the media because of how they handled the African setting (which I personally thought was awesome: it had this cult 70s movie vibe, especially the first half of the game). I think a faithful remake would be a tough sell in these 'woke' times.
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Post by JuniorFE on Apr 7, 2022 20:43:51 GMT
Yeah, these are just pie in the sky wants. Nobody's reading these, and they're definitely niche requests. Hey, they announced a new Mario Strikers game after I'd mentioned it on here a while ago, you never know  |
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Post by Tuffty on Apr 8, 2022 7:25:09 GMT
Isn't that Tomb Raider Anniversary? (Which I'm currently playing). Though that's much more of a remake than a remaster. I think it's getting a remaster of the remake at some point though. It is, I guess it would be silly to expect another but well, it's what I want! |
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Post by dfunked on Apr 8, 2022 7:30:56 GMT
The AI character is what mainly put me off RE5. Would've been great in coop, but just plain annoying in SP. It did get pretty silly with the boulder punching and whatnot, but then again RE4 wasn't exactly straight faced.
I only ever bothered playing it once, whereas RE4 was practically a weekly ritual with my flatmate at the time.
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Post by snackplissken on Apr 8, 2022 7:37:46 GMT
See I'd probably have another blast through of CV over RE4. I was incredibly bored when you got to the island in 4, whereas CV it just felt like classic Resi.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Apr 8, 2022 8:00:52 GMT
But we know they're never going to remake any of those games. I mean did anyone, in any great number, really play P.N.03? I *tried* to play it at the time, but I could never find it anywhere for a reasonable price. |
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Post by dfunked on Apr 8, 2022 8:10:29 GMT
I think I've still got PN03 in the loft. It was OK at the time, really nothing special. Bullet storm + third person kind of reminds me of returnal, even if they were nothing alike.
GC games scrub up nicely with emulation and supersampling fwiw.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Apr 8, 2022 8:19:58 GMT
I wish I hadn't traded in my F-Zero GX disc. Sigh.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 8, 2022 8:23:30 GMT
Now F-Zero. Where the fuck is that game. I still believe that Miyamoto is just pissed that Sega made a game that Nintendo couldn't even begin to improve on.
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Post by rhaegyr on Apr 8, 2022 10:05:17 GMT
Yeah, I never really understood how the same people who championed 4 hated 5. It's the same game but improved in every way. Smoother controls, co-op, more interesting characters, an AI partner that actually helps rather than hinders. It gets accused of turning RE into an over the top action game, but 4 is the one that did that first. Leon flipping through windows and spin kicking Las Plagas. ...what?! I'll try and explain! - Environments were incredibly bland and repetitive - No tension due to daytime setting - Level design wasn't a patch on 4 - Set pieces certainly weren't a patch on 4 - Ashley in no way hindered - she's one of the few AI partners I can think in games who works perfectly. If you ask her to follow you she will, if you ask her to stay put she will, job done. Sheva will use the grenade launcher on a single zombie or a triple green herb at the drop of a hat. - Not sure about more interesting characters - both were shit but 4 at least had the merchant. - Much better enemies in 4. Regenerator alone wins this one. - 4 has superior atmosphere and sound. I love 4 and quite enjoyed 5 but 5 felt lesser in every way save the improved controls, slightly improved graphics and option for co-op. |
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Post by robthehermit on Apr 8, 2022 10:11:28 GMT
Isn't that Tomb Raider Anniversary? (Which I'm currently playing). Though that's much more of a remake than a remaster. I think it's getting a remaster of the remake at some point though. It is, I guess it would be silly to expect another but well, it's what I want! Seen a few rumours this morning that that is what we're getting. It seems mostly fuelled by the new logo on the twitter feed that now features a t-rex. |
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Post by robthehermit on Apr 8, 2022 10:12:14 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 8, 2022 10:30:46 GMT
Is this for the announcement of the new Tomb Raider game being made in UE5?
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Post by Vandelay on Apr 8, 2022 10:41:03 GMT
On the new Tomb Raider, I can't see them ditching the "survival" elements, unfortunately. Those are the parts that I found most unnecessary in the most recent trilogy, but seemed to be the main focus. They at least put more emphasis on the tomb parts as the series went on, but that trilogy really wasn't a patch on the original games or Crystal Dynamic's previous trilogy (Anniversary is probably my favourite TR game).
Would also much rather see it being a globe trotting affair, rather than just one big area. Again though, unlikely to move away from the dominant open world-ish design to discrete levels.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Apr 8, 2022 10:57:56 GMT
Yeah, I never really understood how the same people who championed 4 hated 5. It's the same game but improved in every way. Smoother controls, co-op, more interesting characters, an AI partner that actually helps rather than hinders. It gets accused of turning RE into an over the top action game, but 4 is the one that did that first. Leon flipping through windows and spin kicking Las Plagas. ...what?! I'll try and explain! - Environments were incredibly bland and repetitive - No tension due to daytime setting - Level design wasn't a patch on 4 - Set pieces certainly weren't a patch on 4 - Ashley in no way hindered - she's one of the few AI partners I can think in games who works perfectly. If you ask her to follow you she will, if you ask her to stay put she will, job done. Sheva will use the grenade launcher on a single zombie or a triple green herb at the drop of a hat. - Not sure about more interesting characters - both were shit but 4 at least had the merchant. - Much better enemies in 4. Regenerator alone wins this one. - 4 has superior atmosphere and sound. I love 4 and quite enjoyed 5 but 5 felt lesser in every way save the improved controls, slightly improved graphics and option for co-op. Here we go again, Reggie...
Just kidding!
I don't think 5 is a classic in the same way as 4 - it largely just emulates it anyway - but I do really like it
The setting is one of the reasons - it's unusual. There's plenty of tension in the game though. It's not the spooky RE4 atmoshere, but there's definitely something menacing
Never really understood the hate for Sheva. She takes a bit of management but as long as you do, she won't waste anything. Use her as an ammo crate and don't give her weapons, etc. She isn't really needed anyway. I'd have preferred it if they made her like the AI partners in Revelations - just there, but don't really do anything (and can't be killed). As a character, she's way better than Ashley
As for the sound, is it bugged in the HD Remaster versions? I'm playing 4 at the moment and there's no depth to the sound, the mixing is odd - enemies off in the distance sound like they're right next to you. It's especially noticable in the section where Johnny Depp is in inside the wardrobe and you can hear his banging as soon as you exit the tunnel. It's really strange. It's like this whenever I've played it
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Post by rhaegyr on Apr 8, 2022 11:25:20 GMT
You again!  I remember the mine section in RE5 being incredibly tense but beyond that I struggle to remember any 'scary' bits - in all fairness I think co-op drains a lot of the tension in any horror game so RE5 had an uphill battle on that front. Sheva was definitely a better character than Ashley, agreed. I'm not sure about the music being bugged but the mixing is definitely off. I should've explained it better and said the sound effects/music cues are more memorable in RE4 - the shouts from the Las Plagas, the chanting of monks in the Castle, the driving, tense 'pinging' music in the castle and to top it all off the sounds the Regenerators make, christ - it still haunts me! Save room music is incredible too. I really do like RE5 and I do think it gets a bad rep - just don't think it does anything better than RE4 outside of the controls and not having a character shouting "LEON! HELP" every five minutes. Chris is annoying as fuck as too and wishes he had a fringe like Leon. |
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Post by unrealkilla on Apr 8, 2022 11:30:30 GMT
RE4 was better than 5 but 5 was still good and underrated. It barely needs an upgrade, the graphics still hold up and they were amazing back then.
Although RE4 is amazing and has some great moments, I do think it has always been really overrated. For me it signalled the beginning of a long decline in the Resi franchise, with the over the shoulder view basically being a more awkward version of 3rd or 1st person view.
It basically put it in the genre of AAA horror shooter, and out of the kind of B movie-ish, pre-rendered back drop or semi 3D back drop (CV), puzzler, awkward shooter thingy that it was. 1st and 3rd person shooters are a dime a dozen, and the AI was crap.
"Your mum" to anyone who doesn't think CV was a great game.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Apr 8, 2022 11:35:30 GMT
I enjoy all the different styles of RE games
It's kept the series interesting
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Post by snackplissken on Apr 8, 2022 11:36:29 GMT
A shame they've never done Resident Evil Karting.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Apr 8, 2022 11:39:04 GMT
Resident Evil hidden object game. I'd kill for that
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Post by rhaegyr on Apr 8, 2022 11:39:12 GMT
I enjoy all the different styles of RE games It's kept the series interesting Even Umbrella Corps? Sickening. |
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Post by rhaegyr on Apr 8, 2022 11:41:04 GMT
RE4 was better than 5 but 5 was still good and underrated. It barely needs an upgrade, the graphics still hold up and they were amazing back then. Although RE4 is amazing and has some great moments, I do think it has always been really overrated. For me it signalled the beginning of a long decline in the Resi franchise, with the over the shoulder view basically being a more awkward version of 3rd or 1st person view. It basically put it in the genre of AAA horror shooter, and out of the kind of B movie-ish, pre-rendered back drop or semi 3D back drop (CV), puzzler, awkward shooter thingy that it was. 1st and 3rd person shooters are a dime a dozen, and the AI was crap. "Your mum" to anyone who doesn't think CV was a great game. RE3 sucked. RE4 rejuvinated the franchise for me and remains my favourite, just ahead of the original. Not really scary but a masterclass in tension. We can all agree RE6 is an utter turd though, right? |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Apr 8, 2022 11:41:31 GMT
I only even vaguely know what that is
I mean the good ones
Wouldn't mind ports of the Chronicles games. Never got around to them on Wii
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Post by Aunt Alison on Apr 8, 2022 11:45:10 GMT
RE4 was better than 5 but 5 was still good and underrated. It barely needs an upgrade, the graphics still hold up and they were amazing back then. Although RE4 is amazing and has some great moments, I do think it has always been really overrated. For me it signalled the beginning of a long decline in the Resi franchise, with the over the shoulder view basically being a more awkward version of 3rd or 1st person view. It basically put it in the genre of AAA horror shooter, and out of the kind of B movie-ish, pre-rendered back drop or semi 3D back drop (CV), puzzler, awkward shooter thingy that it was. 1st and 3rd person shooters are a dime a dozen, and the AI was crap. "Your mum" to anyone who doesn't think CV was a great game. RE3 sucked. RE4 rejuvinated the franchise for me and remains my favourite, just ahead of the original. Not really scary but a masterclass in tension. We can all agree RE6 is an utter turd though, right? I thought 6 was decent the first time I played it (and played it a few times) but I think it might have been one of my first PS4 games and my expectations were really low due to the reputation it had
At least for the first playthrough, there's just so much going on that you don't really get a chance to think about it. Is there any kind of vehicle they don't crash in that game?
I liked Helena and Sherry was fine
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Post by unrealkilla on Apr 8, 2022 12:11:23 GMT
RE4 was better than 5 but 5 was still good and underrated. It barely needs an upgrade, the graphics still hold up and they were amazing back then. Although RE4 is amazing and has some great moments, I do think it has always been really overrated. For me it signalled the beginning of a long decline in the Resi franchise, with the over the shoulder view basically being a more awkward version of 3rd or 1st person view. It basically put it in the genre of AAA horror shooter, and out of the kind of B movie-ish, pre-rendered back drop or semi 3D back drop (CV), puzzler, awkward shooter thingy that it was. 1st and 3rd person shooters are a dime a dozen, and the AI was crap. "Your mum" to anyone who doesn't think CV was a great game. RE3 sucked. RE4 rejuvinated the franchise for me and remains my favourite, just ahead of the original. Not really scary but a masterclass in tension. We can all agree RE6 is an utter turd though, right? 6 was a broken tire fire of a turd when it released but has since been patched up so it at least runs smoothly, so some of the game is ok running around but yes I remember many encounters and set pieces are really shit. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 8, 2022 13:33:08 GMT
RE4 was better than 5 but 5 was still good and underrated. It barely needs an upgrade, the graphics still hold up and they were amazing back then. Although RE4 is amazing and has some great moments, I do think it has always been really overrated. For me it signalled the beginning of a long decline in the Resi franchise, with the over the shoulder view basically being a more awkward version of 3rd or 1st person view. It basically put it in the genre of AAA horror shooter, and out of the kind of B movie-ish, pre-rendered back drop or semi 3D back drop (CV), puzzler, awkward shooter thingy that it was. 1st and 3rd person shooters are a dime a dozen, and the AI was crap. "Your mum" to anyone who doesn't think CV was a great game. CV was some turgid, repetitive shit. There's a reason it's been quietly forgotten by the timeline. Also Resi 4 revolutionised the 3rd person aiming convention with coupled with its specific limb damage and the appropriate response from the enemy, few games were doing that like Goldeneye and Medal of Honour Allied Assault, I believe Resi 4 was a direct inspiration for Gears of War. |
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Post by dfunked on Apr 8, 2022 13:46:05 GMT
Now I'm going to have to buy 5 and 6 in the Xbox sale to see if my memory is failing me.
Got as far as a bus section in Leon's campaign (I think) in RE6 and just gave up.
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Post by snackplissken on Apr 8, 2022 14:24:51 GMT
You got more Wesker in CV. WESKER.
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