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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2024 7:33:12 GMT
Absolutely convinced I need an airbrush as soon I'm in my own place again. Even just priming stuff looks like the business compared to waiting for a good weather weekend and finding a good windless spot as the witching hour hits at exactly the right moment when your models are all set on strips, the can is shaken and warmed and no-one from Amazon or wherever is likely to ring the doorbell Meh, I’ve said it before and I’d say it again - some of the hoodoo talked about priming conditions is overthinking it. If it’s not actually really windy or rainy, a typical temperate British day is fine for it IME. I just look for not freezing, not raining, and preferably a bit of sun. I’ve found it fine doing that even when humidity is in the mid 70 per cent range. Just shake the can, maybe even a bit longer than two mins, run it under the warm tap and get the models in sharpish into a dry warm room. If you want an airbrush because you want an airbrush that’s different like.
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Post by Zyrr on Mar 26, 2024 10:34:32 GMT
Just a heads-up for anyone into epic scale Titans:
A little birdie tells me that the Warbringer, Iconoclast and Warmaster Titans - which were removed from sale as Legions Imperialis launched - have now been repackaged with the new LI bases and will be going back on sale "very soon". As they're not counting this as a "new" release, they'll probably just turn up in various stores with very little fanfare, so keep an eye out.
Now if only they'd hurry up with the Warlord Sinister Psi-Titan restock...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2024 20:50:30 GMT
Paint woes. My hormagaunts get a little red talon accent with orange specks down the root. Quite time consuming, but I basically had this and then the claw/hoof highlights left before varnishing and the rest.
Get the red stripe bit done on the ten in about 45 minutes, quite pleased with that.
Open my Fenrisian Grey, which is my highlight colour for all of the black claws in the army, and from which I will not do a substitute, and it’s basically turned into a lump of what looks like blu-tack.
Have tried pouring Lahmian Medium in and stirring (this has saved some tacky pots in the past) but it’s beyond that - although I’m now down a load of medium too. Tried breaking it up with the tail end of an old brush - it just makes lumps that won’t stir in.
Have ended up spending nearly 7 quid to get what should be a 3 quid pot on prime delivery from Amazon. So frustrating and I totally get Danno’s pain from the other night.
Looking at my order history it actually looks like the dead pot was from Amazon too - that was in March 2021 so I reckon they have a shelf life of about three to four years before that bottle design dries them out and basically destroys your paint. This only seems to happen with my go-to colours as well - stuff I hardly use may separate but doesn’t do this. Abaddon black is terrible for it - that’s a really fast drying paint on the models too.
So close to finishing too - I need to do a paint audit and then plan a visit to a bricks and mortar shop I think.
EDIT - f*ck me that took a lot of editing to get somewhat coherent. Apologies if you caught the various drafts, one of which had an unintended Xenos double entendre.
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Post by ForkHandles on Mar 26, 2024 21:31:52 GMT
So after preordering the Orc and Goblin Battalions box I had a bit of a realisation that really what I should have done was just buy the Orc box as I already have a lot of Goblins. But I do like the Orc chariots that come with it, and also, I like the old GW Goblin sculpts, so on the whole I guess getting 73 figures for £80 was OK.
But being me, I looked at my existing Orc forces and decided that adding 31 Orcs and 2 Boar chariots wasn't actually going to give me enough variety of Orcs to field a 2000 point army. So I went on the Max Mini website where I bought my Goblin army from, and low and behold, they do Orc spearmen and Orc hand weapon units too. So £40 later and I now have another 40 Orcs winging their way to me.
This army project has now doubled in size. Idiot.
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Post by oldschoolsavant on Mar 26, 2024 21:54:20 GMT
For all the dead paint woes - anyone tried one of those vibrating doodahs ? Just reminded of a Squidmar(?) vid I caught over the weekend, testing Temu crap, only for him to find a £20 one exactly the same as his £100+ artisan one.
Dunno if it'd help+medium, but just a thought. And you can substitute Lahmian for other mediums - get the big Galleria pots out of The Range for much cheapness.
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Post by Danno on Mar 26, 2024 22:52:29 GMT
Paint woes. My hormagaunts get a little red talon accent with orange specks down the root. Quite time consuming, but I basically had this and then the claw/hoof highlights left before varnishing and the rest. Get the red stripe bit done on the ten in about 45 minutes, quite pleased with that. Open my Fenrisian Grey, which is my highlight colour for all of the black claws in the army, and from which I will not do a substitute, and it’s basically turned into a lump of what looks like blu-tack. Have tried pouring Lahmian Medium in and stirring (this has saved some tacky pots in the past) but it’s beyond that - although I’m now down a load of medium too. Tried breaking it up with the tail end of an old brush - it just makes lumps that won’t stir in. Have ended up spending nearly 7 quid to get what should be a 3 quid pot on prime delivery from Amazon. So frustrating and I totally get Danno’s pain from the other night. Looking at my order history it actually looks like the dead pot was from Amazon too - that was in March 2021 so I reckon they have a shelf life of about three to four years before that bottle design dries them out and basically destroys your paint. This only seems to happen with my go-to colours as well - stuff I hardly use may separate but doesn’t do this. Abaddon black is terrible for it - that’s a really fast drying paint on the models too. So close to finishing too - I need to do a paint audit and then plan a visit to a bricks and mortar shop I think. EDIT - f*ck me that took a lot of editing to get somewhat coherent. Apologies if you caught the various drafts, one of which had an unintended Xenos double entendre. Ahhh man, it's a shitty feeling. I'm going with decanting into droppers for all citadel paint in future as my Vallejo paints (same age and level of use) all seem fine and don't have visible separation either. I'd rather lose half a ml from the transfer process than the entire fucking pot because GW know exactly what they're up to.** Re Abbadon Black, I've heard very good things about the contrast version, could be worth a look. I'm doing a shop tour on Friday (localish one that does not look promising and apparently keeps Mallrats style opening hours, then over the ferry to Pompey if necessary). Planning to get a good 2 or 3 paint sessions in over the longest weekend. **edit, thinking about it, does any other mini paint co use such a stupidly porous container? And then advocate putting their paint on a palette in every tutorial vid they produce so that it can be thinned and controlled rather than applying it directly to the model, thus totally obviating the only possible advantage of the design of said container?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2024 8:15:04 GMT
The smaller shops are generally staffed by one person. That’s why they keep weird hours. You may find that as a result they are not open every day so I would advise to google the opening hours *and* if you have access look at the Facey for that shop (there will be one) to check for any unexpected closures - I’ve been caught out before.
I have two shops local-ish but not ‘lunch break local’ at all. To have one in your actual home town must be brill.
At said small shop the guy showed me some models he’d used contrast black on - I think it’s black templars. To me it looked almost exactly like Abaddon that needed another coat. Although that Warhipster guy loves it.
I tend to find Abaddon does need two coats - one at medium thickness and then one very thinned watery coat does it for me, although maybe more on a big area. The fact it dries so quickly at least helps to get this done but I do think it adds to the pot drying.
Have discussed the dropper bottle thing on here before and my conclusion was that yep in an ideal world I would, but the cost and time of doing it is probably greater than just re-buying a few pots a year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2024 8:22:27 GMT
Regards painting a unit of ten or what have you two, objectively what I got done yesterday is a healthy amount. I have found in the past that saying stuff like ‘right tonight I’m doing an hour and a half and I’m doing all the weapons’ can be a healthy approach and can lead to them getting done in a week which ain’t bad and allows you to live a bit too! I just have this thing where I wanna try and get a unit done in a set space of time if I’m off work. Need to grow up a bit I guess. Regarding the rush itself, the motivation is a personal goal to finish an army to completion which I’ve never managed to do before. I’ve been researching lighting and think I’m gonna get a proper Billy with glass doors and have researched lighting (link below to what I will settle on). I’ve got Argos knock-off Billy’s at the mo but the dimensions are wrong for the doors. www.reddit.com/r/AnimeFigures/s/SHpjYz8vwE
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Post by nexus6 on Mar 27, 2024 9:42:53 GMT
Shopping for paints etc is the biggest pain in the balls in the hobby I reckon. I've had a huge hiatus on doing any plastic modelling and have built up a big backlog - squad of new terminators, 4 WW2 German winter tank riders, a panzer 3, a panzer 6, a jagdpanzer 4, 3 SAS desert jeeps all in various stages of assembly and paint.
I needed a bottle of odorless thinner for doing an oil dot filter on a Nachin Tank model I got 3 years ago at christmas so on to Scale Model Shop. The cost of delivery is nearly that of the bottle so I add on some chipping medium and pipettes. Bumps the money up but at least I think i'm being sensible.
To be able to walk in to a shop and have everything there would be amazing but there isn't on in the whole of Glasgow like that. One that does Tamiya paints and Humbrol and that's it. I use AK 3rd Gen ffs.
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Post by Zyrr on Mar 27, 2024 9:51:10 GMT
There's two black Contrast paints. The older one is Black Templar - it's thinner with a very slightly green/brownish(?) tint to it. You'd definitely need two coats to get a uniform finish, but I find its main strength is using it over metallics to allow those metallic edges to show through.
The newer black is Black Legion. It's got much better coverage and flows way better than standard Abaddon Black. It doesn't really work like a normal Contrast paint as the pigment is too strong. It just turns things black. This has become my go-to black in the past couple of years for speed painting armies.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2024 10:10:00 GMT
Shopping for paints etc is the biggest pain in the balls in the hobby I reckon. I've had a huge hiatus on doing any plastic modelling and have built up a big backlog - squad of new terminators, 4 WW2 German winter tank riders, a panzer 3, a panzer 6, a jagdpanzer 4, 3 SAS desert jeeps all in various stages of assembly and paint. I needed a bottle of odorless thinner for doing an oil dot filter on a Nachin Tank model I got 3 years ago at christmas so on to Scale Model Shop. The cost of delivery is nearly that of the bottle so I add on some chipping medium and pipettes. Bumps the money up but at least I think i'm being sensible. To be able to walk in to a shop and have everything there would be amazing but there isn't on in the whole of Glasgow like that. One that does Tamiya paints and Humbrol and that's it. I use AK 3rd Gen ffs. I used to (badly) model jets as a teen and Humbrol and Revell had an absolute stranglehold on the market. It was all enamel paints you had to open with a knife. The smell of them was absolutely delicious. I guess these will be massively obsolete in that military modelling world? Thinking of the racks of those little tins in Toymaster is a real nostalgia blast.
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Post by nexus6 on Mar 27, 2024 10:31:01 GMT
Shopping for paints etc is the biggest pain in the balls in the hobby I reckon. I've had a huge hiatus on doing any plastic modelling and have built up a big backlog - squad of new terminators, 4 WW2 German winter tank riders, a panzer 3, a panzer 6, a jagdpanzer 4, 3 SAS desert jeeps all in various stages of assembly and paint. I needed a bottle of odorless thinner for doing an oil dot filter on a Nachin Tank model I got 3 years ago at christmas so on to Scale Model Shop. The cost of delivery is nearly that of the bottle so I add on some chipping medium and pipettes. Bumps the money up but at least I think i'm being sensible. To be able to walk in to a shop and have everything there would be amazing but there isn't on in the whole of Glasgow like that. One that does Tamiya paints and Humbrol and that's it. I use AK 3rd Gen ffs. I used to (badly) model jets as a teen and Humbrol and Revell had an absolute stranglehold on the market. It was all enamel paints you had to open with a knife. The smell of them was absolutely delicious. I guess these will be massively obsolete in that military modelling world? Thinking of the racks of those little tins in Toymaster is a real nostalgia blast. Yeah same here but they were always gunked up and useless. And they were such small little pots too. Modelling back in the day was shit! Tamiya are still the great paints especially for airbrush. I like to follow that up with the AK range acrylics. Just wish I could walk in a shop and have the range there in front of me. Amazon is crap for modelling stuff.
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Post by ForkHandles on Mar 27, 2024 12:58:58 GMT
I use Wayland Games for most of my paint purchases - mostly because of their £20 free delivery to be honest.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Mar 27, 2024 14:07:42 GMT
I use Wayland Games for most of my paint purchases - mostly because of their £20 free delivery to be honest. I am about to do my third order from them in as many weeks. Building up them loyalty points.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2024 15:33:33 GMT
I’ve seen that done before - but the notable effect is the texture paint - that’s really cool and is a spin I haven’t seen.
Although we’re in ‘Votann exposed bubble canopy’ territory when you have a predator style cloak that tactically covers about 1/3 of your bright yellow armour suit 😂
So Warhammer you have to love it.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Mar 27, 2024 17:52:11 GMT
Was outside priming a tactical squad and a fuckload of Necromunda and Sector Imperialis bases when the wind suddenly reversed direction and now I can taste a lot of Chaos Black.
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Post by nexus6 on Mar 27, 2024 19:22:02 GMT
HERETIC!
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Post by LegendaryApe on Mar 27, 2024 20:11:57 GMT
That's how it starts. Soon, he'll have another head growing out of his torso whispering "juuuust one moooore box of miniiiiiiss."
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Post by Blue_Mike on Mar 27, 2024 21:54:32 GMT
That's how it starts. Soon, he'll have another head growing out of his torso whispering "juuuust one moooore box of miniiiiiiss." PSA: Games Workshop is the leading factor in the spontaneous growth of Quattos among males aged 15 to 45.
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Post by Danno on Mar 27, 2024 22:12:57 GMT
That's how it starts. Soon, he'll have another head growing out of his torso whispering "juuuust one moooore box of miniiiiiiss." PSA: Games Workshop is the leading factor in the spontaneous growth of Quattos among males aged 15 to 45. I was hesitant after all that goatse stuff from a decade+ ago, but I googled it anyway and I still have no idea what a Quatto is
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Post by Blue_Mike on Mar 27, 2024 22:17:33 GMT
PSA: Games Workshop is the leading factor in the spontaneous growth of Quattos among males aged 15 to 45. I was hesitant after all that goatse stuff from a decade+ ago, but I googled it anyway and I still have no idea what a Quatto is Open your mind, Mr Quaid.
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I have just now realised it should have been spelled Kuato.
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Post by LegendaryApe on Mar 27, 2024 22:20:57 GMT
I learn a lot from this thread
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Post by Danno on Mar 27, 2024 22:23:25 GMT
I was hesitant after all that goatse stuff from a decade+ ago, but I googled it anyway and I still have no idea what a Quatto is Open your mind, Mr Quaid.
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I have just now realised it should have been spelled Kuato.
Ok that makes sense now
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Post by Danno on Mar 27, 2024 22:24:03 GMT
I learn a lot from this thread Don't Google that thing I mentioned. I don't want my lovely Ape corrupted.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Mar 27, 2024 22:32:25 GMT
Don't know if anybody's seen these, but TheGamer has been doing an interview series with Games Workshop game designer James Hewitt.
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Post by ForkHandles on Mar 28, 2024 8:49:54 GMT
Been a while since I posted a picture, so here's one I prepared earlier - a giant beastman cyclops thingy and one of my WIP goblin wolf riders for scale.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2024 10:52:48 GMT
Been a while since I posted a picture, so here's one I prepared earlier - a giant beastman cyclops thingy and one of my WIP goblin wolf riders for scale.
That’s superb. Always loved minotaurs as a kid so thought beastmen were sick!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2024 14:23:08 GMT
20 Hormies done (have missed two dew claws I’ll fix when I next paint). I don’t put a huge deal of detail into these gribblies, with the armour just being contrast + drybrush, but they look good en masse I hope. Bonus Parasite. I may have posted this before sorry but here’s a better photo of a few of my Hormies close up from when I did the first ten. They are a really great and dynamic looking sculpt.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Mar 28, 2024 21:41:25 GMT
Painting these Necromunda bases is making me feel like I'm engineering Pog slammers.
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Post by ForkHandles on Mar 29, 2024 10:40:25 GMT
Finally finished the wolf riders. They took forever thanks to me finding anything to paint or build instead of finishing them.
Not sure what will get done next, the Max Mini Orcs have arrived already and they are pretty beefy, so I may do them as Black Orcs - I was tempted to switch to painting them but I need to wait for some bases to turn up next week as they came with 20mm MDF bases for some reason. (50 square 25mm plastic bases were only £7 on eBay, not bad really). I refuse to switch to 30mm bases, even though they'll probably rank up better...
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