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Post by Danno on Oct 14, 2024 19:03:18 GMT
Generally speaking the Kill Teams get a separate release right? I.e. you should be able to pick up Striking Scorpions on their own for 40k now?
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Post by Blue_Mike on Oct 14, 2024 19:06:12 GMT
That Kill Team: Scout Squad box I picked up the other day is just the models, no data sheets or counters or anything else.
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 14, 2024 19:32:37 GMT
New edition Kill Teams have photos of the models on the cover and come with tokens.
Prior editions have painted artwork on the front and lack tokens.
Not every box has been re-released at present and as of last Friday our Warhammer still had some old boxes in.
They’ve spoken vaguely about 40K support for teams rotated out of the tournament roster, but I don’t know if that involved repackaging or just rules releases.
From what I understand it’s a nightmare trying to cross the streams due to WYSISWG and Killteams being built around 8 special weapons and 2 troopers. I for one am keeping any Killteams separately and am even basing them differently. Yes I know you don’t have to WYSISWG, but it’s my preference for my own collection.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Oct 14, 2024 19:38:10 GMT
I must have had one from older stock that Wayland had lying around. Not that I'm bothered, I have no intention of gaming. My minis will be put on a bookcase when done and then never move again.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Oct 14, 2024 19:50:13 GMT
The new app is actually pretty good and has unit cards for all the supported kill teams.
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Post by Danno on Oct 14, 2024 19:52:42 GMT
"All just about supported"
Sorry, just as far as I know they've really done the dirty on AoS players in this edition. Seems like a shit idea compounded by shits in suits.
We only just got some rules and codices online and they are *not* happy about selling 1,000 more bits of tree a year when we all know what wahapedia is.
(Sorry for the very reddit styley post)
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 14, 2024 20:21:28 GMT
I must have had one from older stock that Wayland had lying around. Not that I'm bothered, I have no intention of gaming. My minis will be put on a bookcase when done and then never move again. The sprues are identical. I haven’t got to the end of the rules yet but you’re talking card tokens being the difference in inflated price. I’m not even sure if these are the normal game tokens just faction branded, in fact. I’ve picked up three old boxes myself, Fellgor Ravagers, Kasrkin and Kommandos. |
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 14, 2024 20:23:33 GMT
"All just about supported" Sorry, just as far as I know they've really done the dirty on AoS players in this edition. Seems like a shit idea compounded by shits in suits. We only just got some rules and codices online and they are *not* happy about selling 1,000 more bits of tree a year when we all know what wahapedia is. (Sorry for the very reddit styley post) What have they done to AoS now? Or do you just mean the Primarisisation of the Stormcast? Rules should be free as they change quarter to quarter. Make the codices introductory fluff, art, and galleries of minis. They’d sell anyway so long as they didn’t keep recycling everything. |
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Post by Danno on Oct 14, 2024 20:26:13 GMT
"All just about supported" Sorry, just as far as I know they've really done the dirty on AoS players in this edition. Seems like a shit idea compounded by shits in suits. We only just got some rules and codices online and they are *not* happy about selling 1,000 more bits of tree a year when we all know what wahapedia is. (Sorry for the very reddit styley post) What have they done to AoS now? Or do you just mean the Primarisisation of the Stormcast? Rules should be free as they change quarter to quarter. Make the codices introductory fluff, art, and galleries of minis. They’d sell anyway so long as they didn’t keep recycling everything. The rules were there and now they ain't. People are understandably annoyed about this, and I've seen a LOT of posts that are just done with the thing |
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Post by Danno on Oct 14, 2024 20:29:47 GMT
Imagine if they were 40k players, they'd have been on MTG in 200 and... I think 7?. Originally thought 3 but that was shite and led to WotC trying to clean things up for ages, culminating in Lorwyn and fucking Bitterblosson,among other shite - wasn't Skullclamp in there?
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Post by Blue_Mike on Oct 14, 2024 20:38:09 GMT
I must have had one from older stock that Wayland had lying around. Not that I'm bothered, I have no intention of gaming. My minis will be put on a bookcase when done and then never move again. The sprues are identical. I haven’t got to the end of the rules yet but you’re talking card tokens being the difference in inflated price. I’m not even sure if these are the normal game tokens just faction branded, in fact. I’ve picked up three old boxes myself, Fellgor Ravagers, Kasrkin and Kommandos.
I didn't mention price, I was replying to Dannos' comment about KT's being available seperately for 40K. Forgot to actually hit the Quote button.
What style/regiment are you planning on painting the Kasrkin in? I've always had a fondness for the hotshot style lasguns.
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 14, 2024 20:50:33 GMT
@blue_Mike I was basically trying to make a couple of points - if you do want to play them I’m sure the old box would be fine without some bits of card, and that I think the price increase for said bits of card is a bit rum. In terms of style/build etc I’ve built plasma/chainsword for the Sgt, and then the gunner slots as sharpshooter, plasma, grenade launcher and volley gun. I’m sure that isn’t the optimal setup RN but they are my favourites in the box and that’s what counts. In terms of painting whatever the box art is, I’m a simple and unimaginative man! Danno, I might not be enough a man of culture to get that last post without a translation sorry! I haven’t seen anything about the AoS rules, I take it they’ve gone from free in app to paywalled behind Battletome codes like 40K then? |
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Post by Blue_Mike on Oct 14, 2024 20:59:48 GMT
Sidenote, my Lil' Predators turned up today.
I'm glad I ordered two, because the whip/spine is so delicate I will almost certainly end up breaking one. As for the material quality, they are a little on the gummi feeling side than stuff I've had from other sellers, and one of them has part of the printing scaffold still attached to the shin, but that's ok because once I snip it off I think I can actually find a purpose for it on another model.
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 15, 2024 17:37:48 GMT
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Post by nexus6 on Oct 15, 2024 20:02:03 GMT
67 quid for that starter set
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 15, 2024 20:49:52 GMT
67 quid for that starter set Considering the current price of an individual Killteam this doesn’t seem heinous. Is that GW price? If it ends up being under sixty quid it’ll probably join the backlog. Sigh. |
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Post by Tomo on Oct 15, 2024 22:56:51 GMT
You guys buying the Starter Set purely for the miniatures? Can they be got in separate packs?
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 15, 2024 23:00:08 GMT
You guys buying the Starter Set purely for the miniatures? Can they be got in separate packs? Individual packs are over 40 quid RRP. |
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Post by Blue_Mike on Oct 16, 2024 0:49:42 GMT
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 16, 2024 14:04:45 GMT
Had proposed to finish 3 more Kommandos today but am not feeling it. The sniper one is an absolute bitch to paint. So many obtuse angles and there are two models in the team (that and the breacher boy) I don’t love anyway so the inspiration isn’t there either. Did manage to polish off the scorcher boy this morning which has turned out quite nicely. I should still just about be able to finish the Kill Team this week but I don’t think I’m getting any scenery done with it now.
Sorry, really boring post, just a bit of a deflating day of it and wanted to vent.
I’ve also not stuck the iron sight on the sniper’s gun and don’t know where it is.
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Post by nexus6 on Oct 16, 2024 14:14:43 GMT
I have glued up roughly 50% of the scenery.
I have assembled 2 Aquilons, leaving off backpacks.
That is all.
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 16, 2024 14:21:23 GMT
Yeah but I’m racing myself not you lol. Here’s them so far.  |
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Post by nexus6 on Oct 16, 2024 16:42:03 GMT
Yeah but I’m racing myself not you lol. Here’s them so far. Looking good! That central guy is such a pose |
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Post by Tomo on Oct 16, 2024 20:06:32 GMT
I've glued my scenery and Stingwings! Paid an obscene amount for paints and gear. About halfway through my first Stingwing after a good 4 or so hours lol. Hopefully the rest will be quick  |
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 17, 2024 10:09:10 GMT
I’m finding painting Orks verging on being a bit of a chore, which is a shame as I think they are awesome. But the complaints I hear from GSC painters - all models different, loads of pouches/straps/grenades/spoons/kitchen sinks hanging off every possible bit - really seem to hold true, meaning each model is taking a lot of time to pick out the details.
Doing half decent highlighting on marines or Tyranid carapaces is in itself somewhat labourious but you really can get a bit of an assembly line going there.
I’m not sure if my conclusions may be skewed by this specific Kommandos box, like, as they are leaning into those differences hard.
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Post by magicpanda on Oct 17, 2024 11:37:31 GMT
I’m finding painting Orks verging on being a bit of a chore, which is a shame as I think they are awesome. But the complaints I hear from GSC painters - all models different, loads of pouches/straps/grenades/spoons/kitchen sinks hanging off every possible bit - really seem to hold true, meaning each model is taking a lot of time to pick out the details. Doing half decent highlighting on marines or Tyranid carapaces is in itself somewhat labourious but you really can get a bit of an assembly line going there. I’m not sure if my conclusions may be skewed by this specific Kommandos box, like, as they are leaning into those differences hard. It's why I prefer my Orks semi naked. |
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Post by zagibu on Oct 17, 2024 12:30:28 GMT
That's exactly what I loved about Orks. But yeah, I can see how that can be a problem when you have to paint a whole army of 30 - 40 models or something.
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 17, 2024 14:52:04 GMT
Well I got another two down and it’s a nice unit of turtles stood together. Rocket, Commz and Breacher left plus the squig and grot. With other stuff I have on it looks unlikely I’ll finish by the weekend by certainly early next week ought to be attainable. Think I’ll use this as the impetuous to finally use the magnets and magnetic sheets I got years ago so I need to find one or two of those Really Useful Boxes. I figure a 4l ought to be fine for two Killteams and probably the 9l XL for the tallest building.
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 18, 2024 7:14:04 GMT
Have never seen this guy before but this journey to make a custom game board was waaaaay more entertaining than these things usually are - not only is he mad talented he’s really f*cking funny and the mishaps along the way were so relatable! youtu.be/8rCFCwAzIvA?si=KiL9cGwnL6MtjKFbIn other YT news, there’s also a recent video of Zumitko Miniatures complaining for 20 minutes about not winning a Golden Demon. I definitely haven’t made it to the end of that one and to be honest thought it was a pretty bad look. |
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Oct 18, 2024 8:25:23 GMT
There have been lots of complaints about Golden Demon judging this time. Vincey V, Squidmar and others. It's not about not winning, it's about being ranked as not even close on an inconsistent and opaque set of criteria.
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