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Post by Danno on Oct 13, 2024 21:01:54 GMT
www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/kill-team-hivestorm-2024-eng-free-giftI’ve generally tried to replicate the look of the current promotional pictures here, which is very bright. I actually think mine is dirtier, but they have these orange/brown rust streaks here and there I could try to replicate. Close up pictures at photo 10. However this would have to be with existing materials as I can’t be spending any more money on this hobby at the moment, I’m skint and already probably needing varnish. I think the best I could probably do is something like a very targeted drybrush of Skrag Brown. I’m not averse to that, but I am also not bothered by overly ‘grimdark’ schemes or seeking photorealism - personal taste is that I prefer a gentle pop. Streaking Grime and a bit of Agrax, mayyyyybe the rust paint around the doors and such. |
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Oct 13, 2024 21:17:39 GMT
I think it looks excellent, drake. I personally wouldn’t worry too much about faffing around with any extra detail. It’s terrain at the end of the day. It’s going to look great on a table and you want everybody pointing and coo-ing at your Ultraboys, Tyranids and Orks, rather than that anyway.
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Post by nexus6 on Oct 13, 2024 21:19:27 GMT
Yeah, mind this is critique, not criticism.
As said already it’s stellar. Particularly like the black scorch marks to the upper wrecked sections
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 13, 2024 21:55:21 GMT
I’m not offended don’t worry!
If there are simple things to improve it I can try - it’ll just be a bit of an A-Team effort with existing gear for now as my budget is out. I just got my £25 scalped Infernus Sgt through the post yesterday. 🤣
I’ll get it all to this stage and then maybe try some extra stuff on the very small pieces - there’s about half a dozen building fragments.
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Post by Tomo on Oct 13, 2024 22:52:38 GMT
So – traumatic event just now...
Let's first travel back to earlier in day when I was having a lovely time.
Met a friend today and we went to Dark Sphere in Shepherd's Bush to get some paints. I got a good selection and we headed back to his to paint. Listen to a few vinyls, shoot the shit, paint some minis. Lovely Sunday activity. First time I've done this in 25 years. It felt great. I was hesitant painting wouldn't be for me anymore, but I'm really enjoying it.
Anyway, I come home, have dinner. Play a bit of online Space Marine 2 to complete what turned into Tomo's Warhammer 40K Day.
I think oh, I'll put a base coat on another of my Vespids. Painting the lad happily using a Falcon tube as a paint handle with some Blutack to attach the mini. Somehow I proceed to drop the tube, it flips and the mini whacks my brand new pot of Iyaden Yellow and knocks it clean over. The entire contents comes out!! SOMEHOW, my old Netrunner playmat absorbs ALL of the yellow. The next 20 mins is spent cleaning up the area, making sure my new kitchen counters haven't turned a tumeric shade of yellow.
Absolutely horrendous ;_;
But, somehow could've been so much worse.
Sooooo... any suggestions for paint holders or similar to avoid this?!!
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 13, 2024 23:09:24 GMT
I’m sure that there will be holders manufactured on Etsy and stuff but really the best advice is either:
1. Decant into dropper bottles (look at my collection a page back and see why that’s not practical for me).
2. Minimise the risk by trying to work smart and tidy, and take it as experience. You’ll see on any pictures of my cutting mat that it’s half purple - that was a Shyish Purple pot. There is a fairly famous meme about spilled Nuln Oil. The shades and contrasts are top heavy. Even being careful it’ll happen to me again.
3. Entirely personal this one, but I stopped faffing about with painting handles a long time ago. I get much more control just holding the base, or the feet if it’s not yet based. The only downside is you can rub a bit of paint off here and there as you go. But if you want a proper Citadel paint holder let me know and I’ll send you one (it’s not the current version it’s whatever was sold circa 2019) when I get paid and can afford the postage!
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Post by oldschoolsavant on Oct 13, 2024 23:45:32 GMT
TomoNuln oil, fine...but yellow ? There's always a first I suppose. Cheap and cheerful method is blu-tac since you have it, make a tube, and run it around the base of the pot. Squish it a bit centrally so some is gripping the desk, some the pot. If you use a lot, you can make a wee cradle that you can swap pots out of.
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Post by ForkHandles on Oct 14, 2024 7:15:58 GMT
Oh blimey, Citadel paint spillages are the worst - I had a similar Tesseract Glow contrast paint explosion that my old house buyers will have discovered now my desk and chair aren't hiding the worst of it!
There are 3D printed and MDF paint pot holders out there on Etsy and Ebay if you have the space, money and patience for that, but accidents will always happen despite all this - I doubt they'd survive things falling on them either, but they may remain upright from a more gentle sleeve catch / paint brush knock / I'll just put this here whoops type incident. Or blu-tac as noted above.
I know I talk about Speed Paints a lot, but them being in dropper bottles has saved me a lot of tidying up over the last 6 months, and I'd like to keep the carpet in my new hobby room looking nice for a bit longer!
Also, not a bad idea to have old newspaper on your worktop if you can be bothered, it's a cheap way of absorbing a lot of spillages. Plus a bottle of nail polish remover to dab at any paint spots you missed during the initial clean up operation.
More importantly, did your mini survive? And did you manage to sponge up and drip back any of the yellow into the pot - that stuff's expensive!
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Post by Tomo on Oct 14, 2024 10:00:14 GMT
Thanks for the offer drake, but DW, I'm good  I'm going to sculpt some Blutack holders and see how I get on with those before I YOLO some racks or whatever. I do like the nail varnish shelving. Looks convenient, although tbh, my paints will go in a box once I'm done with my Kill Team sets. |
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Post by Tomo on Oct 14, 2024 10:01:44 GMT
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Post by magicpanda on Oct 14, 2024 10:16:25 GMT
Yeah I like it but I have nothing to compare it to. I use the clamp and not the heavy base. Takes a little while to get used to it but painting under it is the way forward, had a few rare issues where you can bump the end of a brush against the frame. You can also unlock bonus mini game of magnifying your dinner to make you feel like a hobbit eating massive food. |
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 14, 2024 10:29:24 GMT
Depth of field issues with magnifying rings can be mitigated in my experience by training yourself to do it with both eyes open. I thought I was a sniper when I first did it but if you have two eyes, use ‘em as it’s that stereo image that gives us the third dimension and accuracy. The key to this is properly angling the glass. If the image looks stretched or fish eyed it’s not correctly angled, so use a combo of angling the glass and angling your noggin until it looks like a true image, only bigger.
I also think the glass everybody has bought is a LOT of magnification for the average mini - wasn’t it 10x? I use a 3x and you know when you see YT tutorials and it looks like the models are like 40 per cent bigger than they are when you actually hold them? It’s like that. I haven’t tried it and would be interested but I reckon 10x could throw me a bit.
I do find painting under magnification a lot slower, but leaning on it a lot at the start seemed to train my ‘naked’ eyes and hands to coordinate better so it’s now only used for very small details like faces and eyes.
Sorry I know the question wasn’t aimed at me!
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Post by Tomo on Oct 14, 2024 12:57:14 GMT
Yeah, the 10X magnification does seem extreme to me as well. Partly why I was wondering how panda got on with it. Hmm interesting.
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Post by Tomo on Oct 14, 2024 12:59:20 GMT
I also notice that the ones sold on Element and Weyland etc (which cost £££) are 1.75X lol
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Post by Tomo on Oct 14, 2024 13:00:34 GMT
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 14, 2024 13:13:12 GMT
This is how it started with the Eldar.
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Post by magicpanda on Oct 14, 2024 13:27:15 GMT
Yeah, the 10X magnification does seem extreme to me as well. Partly why I was wondering how panda got on with it. Hmm interesting. In reality (and knowing absolutely nothing about magnification strengths) you are holding it quite close to you anyway so it appears not much bigger than the model. Id say 2 times bigger 10x comes into play when things are much further away and you dont really hold minis like that. |
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Post by ryder35 on Oct 14, 2024 13:29:35 GMT
I use a similar (but dorkier looking device) Solves the problem of no depth perception, just remember to take it off before answering the door! |
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Post by Tomo on Oct 14, 2024 13:54:42 GMT
I've plumped for a 13 quid 3X magnifying lamp. I'll ask for the headset for Christmas.
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Post by ForkHandles on Oct 14, 2024 13:58:51 GMT
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Oct 14, 2024 15:28:22 GMT
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Post by Danno on Oct 14, 2024 15:33:01 GMT
Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah man this is excellent, those are the Japan-only random box Plague Marines, including the other plaguecaster which has been going for 50 quid on ebay
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Post by knighty on Oct 14, 2024 16:05:37 GMT
Goddammit I paid good money for those plague marine (minus spellcaster). And now that’s going to be cheap as anything. Guess where those plague marines are right now? Still in box.
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Post by drakeypoos on Oct 14, 2024 16:09:52 GMT
Filing firmly under maybe next year if it’s still out. And maybe never if the Nurgles get a separate release. Got Space Marines coming out of my arse and I specifically got Kill Team to try other stuff.
If I do ever get it, I’ll do them as Blood Angels.
But any theoretical funds will be going to Kunning and Brutal.
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Post by ForkHandles on Oct 14, 2024 16:30:56 GMT
Tempted by the Nurgle marines I have to say. I'll be getting a load of Chaos guardsmen-a-like after backing the Wargames Atlantic Kickstarter earlier this year (no idea when they'll be delivered mind), and these will fit in perfectly with them for a bunch of games I play.
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Post by Tomo on Oct 14, 2024 16:32:44 GMT
Eh - don't get that starter box? Purely a cheaper variant to get started? Seems weird they announce this stuff so soon after launch. But I think I don't understand the cadence of GW marketing anymore.
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Post by nexus6 on Oct 14, 2024 16:43:17 GMT
Bit annoying this as it’s probably the better set for me to get used to and then teach the boy, rather than the Hivestorm box I’ve bought.
The rules intro sounds better as I’ve shat myself off the Hivestorm book a couple times already
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Oct 14, 2024 17:10:20 GMT
Don’t get too intimidated by the multiple rulebooks. They’ve actually done a surprisingly good job of tidying up the rules in the new core book imo.
The main bits you need to worry about are just the 20 pages of rules between pages 36-56, and it’s way clearer than it used to be.
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Post by Zyrr on Oct 14, 2024 18:22:52 GMT
Goddammit I paid good money for those plague marine (minus spellcaster). And now that’s going to be cheap as anything. Guess where those plague marines are right now? Still in box. Same. Imported them from Japan back when they were released and also imported the Plaguecaster separately (came in a set on its own with some paints) which cost me nearly as much as the other Plaguemarines combined. The sad thing is I'm actually tempted to buy them all again with this set for kit bashing purposes. |
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Post by Danno on Oct 14, 2024 19:01:18 GMT
Goddammit I paid good money for those plague marine (minus spellcaster). And now that’s going to be cheap as anything. Guess where those plague marines are right now? Still in box. Same. Imported them from Japan back when they were released and also imported the Plaguecaster separately (came in a set on its own with some paints) which cost me nearly as much as the other Plaguemarines combined. The sad thing is I'm actually tempted to buy them all again with this set for kit bashing purposes. They're push fit, which limits kitbashing a tiny bit, but probably not if you're as determined as you or OSS are 😄 |
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