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Post by Saul1138 on Jan 28, 2022 12:43:23 GMT
Don’t worry, this is normal for a night shift.
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Post by britesparc on Jan 28, 2022 12:48:58 GMT
I've enjoyed all of Boba Fett so far! is there something wrong with me?  Nope, I've enjoyed them all too. It's been worth it just to hear how Temuera Morrison pronounces "Tatooine". |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2022 12:59:16 GMT
Ha, my boy loves it when he says "Boba Fett".
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Post by darkling on Jan 28, 2022 13:07:26 GMT
I really enjoyed the last episode of Boba Fett, maybe because Fett wasn't in it.
I thought it would have made an excellent first episode of The Mandalorian, just watching a bounty hunter go about his daily business.
It had the same engrossing appeal as Mike going about his daily business in Better Call Saul. I'd watch the crap out of a Mike spin-off.
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Post by beastmaster on Jan 28, 2022 13:25:53 GMT
Fett doing bounty hunting has already been done with The Mandalorian. Just be the same sort of thing but with a different character.
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Post by rawshark on Jan 28, 2022 14:13:41 GMT
Yeah that last episode was better because it was an episode of The Mandalorian.
Basically The Mandalorian is Boba Fett - the series, and Book of Bob should be Gangs of London but on Tatooine. But unfortunately B.O.B.F is trying to do too many things at once and is a bit thin as a result.
As with most other Star Wars things now it will end up just pandering to the audience. Rancor will be unleased, big Wookie will punch things, Jabba twins will be the big bad for season 2. Just enough people kept happy to tune in again. The end.
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Post by deebs on Jan 28, 2022 14:37:23 GMT
I enjoyed the lack of clunky flashbacks and clunkier acting.
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Post by gamingdave on Jan 28, 2022 14:41:12 GMT
Yeah, I currently think that he doesn’t want to be a crime lord. He wants to be a decent mayor in place of the corrupt one. Maybe…? Oop : Typed that while the above two replies were going up! Isn't his actual end game wanting to fuck up the Pykes and get revenge over the harassment / murder of his adoptive family? I hope so because he is without doubt the shittiest crime lord in the galaxy at this point. This is surely where it's going, but what little present day story there has been led us to think something else (crime boss) was the intent. I'm all for show starting off appearing to be one thing but actually being something else, but the pacing, and story reveal just hasn't quite worked out and it feels a bit muddled. Loved this weeks as an episode in itself. Plenty of spot-the-prop without constantly shouting it out and a solid bit of character development for Mando. Did nothing to progress BOBF though. |
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Post by darkling on Jan 28, 2022 15:34:05 GMT
Fett doing bounty hunting has already been done with The Mandalorian. Just be the same sort of thing but with a different character. It's almost as if The Book of Boba Fett is superfluous. It's astounding that Disney decided to dilute what they've achieved with The Mandalorian by releasing BOBF. I was more than happy with Fett being a supporting character in Mando, and even then, he was one of the most forgettable things about the series. |
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Post by britesparc on Jan 28, 2022 17:18:13 GMT
I can't remember if I said this on here before, but when BOBF was announced I sort of assumed it'd be a relatively cheap series designed to fill a hole in the schedule to give the core creatives time to hammer home s3 of Mando. So I was really surprised when Filoni, Favreau, and Rodriguez all seemed to be heavily involved. I kinda thought this would be farmed out to the "B team", give younger writers/directors a chance to cut their teeth.
I wonder if the disjointed and less satisfying pace/structure has been a result of the big guns maybe spreading themselves too thin? I mean, I'm still enjoying it loads, but it's definitely not as good as Mando.
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Post by aubergine on Jan 29, 2022 0:10:16 GMT
I think it’s simply that it’s ill-conceived,
and saddled with being built on Lucas’ stupid legacy of ill-conceived retcons.
There’s single decisions that could have made it come across better, but hindsight is 20/20.
Fett, reunited with his armour, rarely takes his hat off.
Fett speaks fewer words and with greater purpose.
The timeline of the story is presented chronologically, instead of split with flashbacks that disrupt any sense of Fett having an arc or coming to a realisation.
Fett could have had a speech about how he’s seen himself, and how his sense of identity has been locked in to being a bounty hunter because he is a clone of his “Father”, but his death and rebirth from the Sarlaac, his being stripped of his father’s armour (his whole identity) and enslaved by a tribe, then finding a sense of family he hasn’t had since he was a clone-child, has made him realise he can be whoever he wants to be.
And who he wants to be, is Jabba The Hutt, so he eats the pies until he can be defeated in a fight by a naked woman.
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Post by deebs on Jan 29, 2022 2:14:41 GMT
I mean, it's a classic formula in a sense. I'm trying to look at it in a TNG vs DS9 light. The first one ponces about, doing whatever wherever and the other is stuck in one crappy spot.
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Post by aubergine on Jan 29, 2022 3:53:58 GMT
I think it’s probably just a good example of a decent story, badly told. Following up on Tatooine and Jabba’s legacy is a pretty ripe idea on the face of it.
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Post by khanivor on Jan 29, 2022 4:07:50 GMT
I really do think this series is an exercise in anti fan service. In portraying the character as he actually was in the films, not the awesome ninja silent killer dude fans had made him out to be
His badassedness was all in our heads. He’s a punk ass bitch with cool clothing. His only words in Empire are basically him
Voicing his displeasure over how he handed over his bounty to a dude who’s probably going to kill said bounty. Then he gets taken out with a stick to the back. Hell, the one thing you could have said he dud that was impressive was finding the Falcon but now we know everyone has an Air Tag on them at a times, so he just ran a scan, ‘lol, sup Han’
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Post by lexw on Jan 29, 2022 10:49:33 GMT
I really do think this series is an exercise in anti fan service. In portraying the character as he actually was in the films, not the awesome ninja silent killer dude fans had made him out to be His badassedness was all in our heads. He’s a punk ass bitch with cool clothing. His only words in Empire are basically him Voicing his displeasure over how he handed over his bounty to a dude who’s probably going to kill said bounty. Then he gets taken out with a stick to the back. Hell, the one thing you could have said he dud that was impressive was finding the Falcon but now we know everyone has an Air Tag on them at a times, so he just ran a scan, ‘lol, sup Han’ Pretty much this, yeah. I think they're keen to portray him as a "better person" than was evident in the films (in terms of values, behaviour, etc.), maybe because he has a sad backstory (basically an orphaned child who was presumably raised by people who insisted he had to become a bounty-hunter), and "punk-ass bitch" may be a bit cruel (albeit not entirely wrong), yeah, he's not being portrayed as the hypercompetent megabadass that he has somehow become in the imaginations of Gen Xers and older Millennials, over the course of various Star Wars EU products. That said, spoilers for episode 5 but: Mando wasn't exactly a screaming badass in his most recent episode either. He's completely incompetent with the darksaber, not only is he "fighting it", he managed to horribly injure himself with it and is kind of lucky he didn't lose a leg (what a way to go out!), he failed to understand the lessons that the Mando Smith Lady was trying to give him, and made himself look such a bitch that Biggie Mando decided to try and space-shank him to get the darksaber. And someone in the process of just-barely defeating Biggie Mando, he caused Lady Smith Mandozo to realize he hadn't been following the code (possibly also a result of him having the spear, which she clearly disapproved of). So maybe the general message is that these people aren't super-badasses, that's just Jedi or something? Who knows.
Presumably he's now going to be slightly more inclined to listen to Bo-Katan, given he's effectively been exiled from his little cult, and lied to by them - or at least given bad info - because Lady Smith told him their lot were literally the only survivors, which he knows is bullshit. I'm surprised he didn't call her on that, but maybe that's not how he was raised.
But hey at least his episode made vibro-weapons fully canon. I think they'd been implied or mentioned in Clone Wars or Rebels, but we actually got to see them this time - they originate with the 1980s tabletop RPG in Star Wars, I believe (which was an excellent RPG, note, better, imho, than any other SW tabletop RPG). |
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Post by aubergine on Jan 29, 2022 11:58:48 GMT
I would have thought that the episode provided him with the broad stroke of where he’ll eventually head: to the homeworld to find the impossible lake under the destroyed mines to have an absolution bath. Maybe this quest will be the next season.
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Post by khanivor on Jan 29, 2022 14:21:04 GMT
The only stuff we see Boba do that is badass are a result of what he learned with the Tuskens
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Post by simple on Jan 29, 2022 14:47:03 GMT
Jango didn’t really do anything that cool either so maybe its just in his genes
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Post by Saul1138 on Jan 29, 2022 21:42:27 GMT
Jango didn’t really do anything that cool either so maybe its just in his genes One of the best bits in AotC was Jango vs. Kenobi. At least I enjoyed that more than most of the film. |
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Post by Dougs on Jan 29, 2022 22:58:56 GMT
That was most excellent. Had a big grin for lots of that, felt like proper star Wars. Not that mediocre stuff served up so far.
Interesting that the Director was Bryce Dallas Howard. She had more to work with than other episodes but the pacing was so much better.
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Post by KD on Jan 29, 2022 23:48:58 GMT
I think that episode took up all the budget of the first 4.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jan 31, 2022 2:37:28 GMT
Ok, I watched the first episode and that was.. weird and bad, and worst of all very dull. I can't help but think the whole thing would have worked better if he'd kept his helmet on the whole time, as he just looked like a confused dude who didn't really know what was going on around him. If he'd had his helmet on he'd have looked like a taciturn badass. Maybe. I just don't get what vibe they were going for. I thought you guys were exaggerating him bumbling around, but nope. It's almost like everyone else in town is laughing behind his back and humoring him, except Fennec who just keeps telling him he's making a mistake. Also, why is he so averse to killing?
It's weird that this was written and made by the same peeps as The Mandalorian. Maybe that was just good because he kept his helmet on.
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Post by brokenkey on Jan 31, 2022 11:06:42 GMT
Episode 5 is free-standing. You can enjoy it out of sequence of the first 4.
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Post by beastmaster on Jan 31, 2022 11:39:24 GMT
The problem being that after watching Episode 5, all the others ones are dog shit by comparison.
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Post by Red_Bool on Jan 31, 2022 12:32:12 GMT
Also, why is he so averse to killing? He mentioned that he wanted to rule through respect (?). I'm still waiting/hoping for the totally brilliant, 'didn't see that coming', turn of events. Don't get me wrong, there's quite a lot of things that don't make sense to me, but I'm still very curious to see how things will play out. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2022 12:35:41 GMT
Thing is, how do we know he wasn't always averse to killing? He had to bring Han in alive after all, and pulled a gun to defend himself on Jabba's barge, so I dont' recall any times that he happily killed anyone. Besides, as was mentioned earlier, his motivations seem to be setting up to get back at the Pykes for wasting his mates and also ensuring people are ruled fairly, as he felt he was always mistreated by those he worked for. It kind of does make sense really and it all seems fairly consistent with his character.
Also, Bryce Dallas Howard needs a whole series to direct. She's brilliant.
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Post by brokenkey on Jan 31, 2022 12:45:03 GMT
He killed a lot of stormtroopers in Mando.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jan 31, 2022 13:11:47 GMT
NO DISINTEGRATIONS! *points finger*
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2022 13:34:41 GMT
He killed a lot of stormtroopers in Mando. Ha, so he did.
Ach, everyone kills stormtroopers though. They don't count.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2022 13:35:07 GMT
NO DISINTEGRATIONS! *points finger* Hmm true.
Turns out I can't remember things very well.
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