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Post by Saul1138 on Jan 20, 2022 1:24:11 GMT
Guess the mods were only introduced to explain Fennec this week, so the nerds can shout "canon!". Unless I am completely missing your point, you are aware that Cyborgs have always played a part in Star Wars?
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Post by brokenkey on Jan 20, 2022 9:30:37 GMT
Why does Boba say that he thinks he was betryaed (presumably by Bibb Fortuna)? Bibb, if he was paying attention, would have assumed Boba would have died in the Sarlac pitt. It was far more interesting when Boba's motivation was power, rather than revenge.
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Post by Buu on Jan 20, 2022 9:33:18 GMT
I'm going to continue watching it but there is too much boring dialogue and not enough pew pewing.
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Post by captbirdseye on Jan 20, 2022 9:58:53 GMT
Why does Boba say that he thinks he was betryaed (presumably by Bibb Fortuna)? Bibb, if he was paying attention, would have assumed Boba would have died in the Sarlac pitt. It was far more interesting when Boba's motivation was power, rather than revenge. Interesting that he tells others about how bad revenge is m'kay, but then proceeds to mettle the Biker Mice from Mars.
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Post by EMarkM on Jan 20, 2022 10:48:17 GMT
I need my armour....so I can never put my Helmet on. Bobba: All these guys are so stupid compared with me and Fennac. /crashses his ship into a wall and then fly's it into the Sarlac pit. And chasing that tiny robot around reminded me of Jar Jar. TRIGGERED
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Post by aubergine on Jan 20, 2022 10:50:00 GMT
I just can’t comprehend that this was written by The Mandalorian guy. The dialogue is so clunky Jawas wouldn’t steal it.
Doubtless someone will re-edit the whole series into chronological order, which would help it greatly. It would still be beige as sand, but at least it would be paced and placed better.
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Post by EMarkM on Jan 20, 2022 10:53:39 GMT
I just can’t comprehend that this was written by The Mandalorian guy. The dialogue is so clunky Jawas wouldn’t steal it. Doubtless someone will re-edit the whole series into chronological order, which would help it greatly. It would still be beige as sand, but at least it would be paced and placed better. Do you like sand? HA HA HA HA HA HA :::::::::::::::...................______________________
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Post by darkling on Jan 20, 2022 10:58:39 GMT
Why does Boba say that he thinks he was betryaed (presumably by Bibb Fortuna)? Bibb, if he was paying attention, would have assumed Boba would have died in the Sarlac pitt. It was far more interesting when Boba's motivation was power, rather than revenge. I was confused by the whole revenge comment / angle. Didn't Boba end up in the Sarlac pit due to some bullshit jetpack accident involving Luke Skywalker and a lightsaber, or am I missing something?
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Post by brokenkey on Jan 20, 2022 11:29:34 GMT
I thought Han back-smacked up with a stick, causing the jetpack malfunction. But the point is the same, was he expecting Bibb to come and get him out?
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Post by Red_Bool on Jan 20, 2022 11:55:45 GMT
Also, Fennec mentioned that a it was highly unlikely that a biker gang would defeat a Tusken Raider tribe. Nothing was done with that remark. Also also, when they're hanging over the Sarlacc pit he says that's where he was trapped "all those years ago". Wait? Years? Did he spend years with the Tusken? (but maybe I missed that) Also also also, why was his ship still in Jabba's palace 'after all those years'? Surely Bib would have scrapped/sold it by now? Normally I'm pretty good at switching off my brain for these inconsistencies (especially with Star Wars - sequels excluded), but there's a limit. Still enjoying it though
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Post by brokenkey on Jan 20, 2022 11:59:11 GMT
A single sarlac tenticle was enough to stop Boba' ship taking off, yet wasn't enough to pull han, chewie and lando into the pit.
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Post by Red_Bool on Jan 20, 2022 12:05:02 GMT
Maybe it grew stronger after 'all those years'?
Also: What kind of bomb only has a shockwave in the horizontal plane? There's a big gaping hole in the ground, but the Slave-1 is not blown away. What?
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Post by brokenkey on Jan 20, 2022 12:50:08 GMT
Shush, you can't call it that anymore.
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Post by darkling on Jan 20, 2022 12:55:12 GMT
I really wish the logistics at least made sense on a basic level. I hate having basic questions hanging around after watching things.
What exactly was Boba's plan when tipping Slave 1 face-first into the mouth of a Sarlacc pit? Killing the Sarlacc was surely step 1.
Who is Boba getting revenge on and why? Some minor character from RotJ? I've no idea who the hell Bibb Fortuna is, and I'm a big fan of the original Star Wars trilogy.
Makes me mildly annoyed people are paid to write this shit.
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Post by lexw on Jan 20, 2022 13:03:46 GMT
Maybe it grew stronger after 'all those years'? Also: What kind of bomb only has a shockwave in the horizontal plane? There's a big gaping hole in the ground, but the Slave-1 is not blown away. What? This is nerdy AF but that's how that particular bomb works, we've seen it before. They first appeared in Attack of the Clones, and in The Mandalorian Boba used one to destroy some TIE Fighters pursuing him. They're called, bizarrely, "seismic charges", despite the fact that they work in space. starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Seismic_chargeBut yeah we can blame Lucas/Attack of the Clones for those, when Jango Fett used them. I was looking forward to this thread based on this episode, they're very definitely trying to make Fett look largely incompetent on purpose, certainly at anything other than dealing with mooks or the like. My god chasing that tiny android was pure prequels stuff. Re: Fennec Shand's comment, I mean, I think that's pretty obvious foreshadowing that it'll turn out to have been the Pikes who actually did in the Tuskens. Maybe that'll make Boba mad enough that he briefly becomes competent? She made a number of comments that implied Boba was a bit thick/sentimental/foolish.
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Post by lexw on Jan 20, 2022 13:13:44 GMT
Makes me mildly annoyed people are paid to write this shit. It's all Jon Favreau right now, in terms of the actual writing, so person, rather than people. He works closely with Filoni though, and he wrote literally 50% of the episodes of The Mandalorian. Prior to that he wrote various film scripts (including Swingers which you may remember from the '90s, which he also starred in). I've no idea who the hell Bibb Fortuna is, and I'm a big fan of the original Star Wars trilogy. Bib Fortuna is the creepy Twilek who is Jabba's sidekick. So yes, a minor character from RotJ - but I think the revenge comment was more about the Biker Mice from Mars (who seem to work for Fortuna?). starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Bib_FortunaUnless it was in a novel or something, I don't think we have any idea what he did to Fett or what the bad blood between them is. Given the timeframe it would have to been before the Sarlacc pit.
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Post by Red_Bool on Jan 20, 2022 13:32:54 GMT
This is nerdy AF but that's how that particular bomb works, we've seen it before. They first appeared in Attack of the Clones, and in The Mandalorian Boba used one to destroy some TIE Fighters pursuing him. They're called, bizarrely, "seismic charges", despite the fact that they work in space. Yes, I know how it works Re: Fennec Shand's comment, I mean, I think that's pretty obvious foreshadowing that it'll turn out to have been the Pikes who actually did in the Tuskens. Maybe that'll make Boba mad enough that he briefly becomes competent? Obviously, but I thought he'd at least keep one of them bikers alive to ask. Probably the bikers still did it with the help of the Pikes. Or something
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Post by Saul1138 on Jan 20, 2022 13:41:35 GMT
Also, Fennec mentioned that a it was highly unlikely that a biker gang would defeat a Tusken Raider tribe. Nothing was done with that remark. Also also, when they're hanging over the Sarlacc pit he says that's where he was trapped "all those years ago". Wait? Years? Did he spend years with the Tusken? (but maybe I missed that) Also also also, why was his ship still in Jabba's palace 'after all those years'? Surely Bib would have scrapped/sold it by now? Normally I'm pretty good at switching off my brain for these inconsistencies (especially with Star Wars - sequels excluded), but there's a limit. Still enjoying it though He was knocked into the Sarlaac pit in RotJ, and BoBF is set four years later. I think it was Aubergine who said that the Jawas wouldn’t steal the armour. Why would anyone think that? When Mando parked his ship on Kuill’s world, the Jawas that found it started stripping it bare.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jan 20, 2022 13:44:16 GMT
I've no idea who the hell Bibb Fortuna is, and I'm a big fan of the original Star Wars trilogy. Someone clearly didn't have enough Star Wars Figures as a child! I'd expect more from someone with a Visionaries avatar!
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Post by Derblington on Jan 20, 2022 13:57:48 GMT
Wasn't it sort of obvious who Fortuna was considering you see Boba kill him and take Jabba's throne in Mando, and then the mentions of him being an unfit ruler later in Book?
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Post by captbirdseye on Jan 20, 2022 14:07:57 GMT
Disappointed we didn't get more Machete and Clifford the Rancor.
Fully expecting the crew to be Dominic Toretto next week what with all the 'family' themes being throw around.
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Post by darkling on Jan 20, 2022 14:39:19 GMT
I've no idea who the hell Bibb Fortuna is, and I'm a big fan of the original Star Wars trilogy. Someone clearly didn't have enough Star Wars Figures as a child! I'd expect more from someone with a Visionaries avatar! Hey, at least I'm honest.
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Post by darkling on Jan 20, 2022 14:40:08 GMT
Wasn't it sort of obvious who Fortuna was considering you see Boba kill him and take Jabba's throne in Mando I have no memory of this scene. Edit: and I still don't know why Boba wants revenge on Fortuna. As far as I can remember, he had nothing to do with Boba Fett's jetpack malfunction and him ending up in the Sarlacc pit.
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Post by EMarkM on Jan 20, 2022 14:43:36 GMT
Wasn't it sort of obvious who Fortuna was considering you see Boba kill him and take Jabba's throne in Mando I have no memory of this scene. Edit: and I still don't know why Boba wants revenge on Fortuna. As far as I can remember, he had nothing to do with Boba Fett's jetpack malfunction and him ending up in the Sarlacc pit. Post-credits of the last Mando episode, I think. One of you lot warned me to keep watching!
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Post by Derblington on Jan 20, 2022 14:44:00 GMT
I think it may have been post credit on Season 2 Ep 8. It was the hint that BoBF was coming.
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Post by darkling on Jan 20, 2022 15:03:05 GMT
Ah yes, I remembered I'd seen a post-credit scene that ended with Boba on the throne, but I don't remember him shooting somebody. However, Bib Fortuna wasn't referenced by name, so I definitely still wouldn't have known who he was. Like brokenkey said, maybe Boba was angry Fortuna didn't rescue him, but what did he expect? It's a bit of a reach, both in terms of expectation and down into the Sarlacc pit. One thing I forgot to mention when shitting on the series, is why did Favreau think it was a good idea to have future scenes that show Boba is alive? It dissolves all tension in the flashback scenes, because we know Boba's fate.
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Post by darkling on Jan 20, 2022 15:14:22 GMT
Makes me mildly annoyed people are paid to write this shit. It's all Jon Favreau right now, in terms of the actual writing, so person, rather than people. He works closely with Filoni though, and he wrote literally 50% of the episodes of The Mandalorian. Prior to that he wrote various film scripts (including Swingers which you may remember from the '90s, which he also starred in). I was aware that Favreau was heavily involved with Mando, so I assumed the same here, but I didn't think it was a solo effort. Iron Man is easily my favourite Marvel film - which Favreau directed - because it's such a lean, well-written and well-executed film, with a great central theme woven into the story. I'm confident Favreau is a great director, but maybe he just isn't a great writer.
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Post by Red_Bool on Jan 20, 2022 15:21:42 GMT
Edit: and I still don't know why Boba wants revenge on Fortuna. As far as I can remember, he had nothing to do with Boba Fett's jetpack malfunction and him ending up in the Sarlacc pit. Maybe that will become clear in one of the remaining episodes? Perhaps something to do with the Pykes, the Nikto biker gang and the Tusken massacre? (I'm fully prepared to be disappointed though) Still enjoying it
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Post by lexw on Jan 20, 2022 15:27:55 GMT
Has anyone commented on the amazing fact that the Mod-style vespa gang are actually called Mods but the in-universe justification is that they have cybernetic modifications.
It's like something I'd come up with in a particularly lazy but of worldbuilding in a tabletop RPG. I kind of love it.
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Post by brokenkey on Jan 20, 2022 16:20:15 GMT
I'd put money that they writers came up with the name "mods" for them first (cos modifications), and some smart arse designers made their bikes look like mopeds second as a joke. That no-one else got.
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