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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2021 15:32:11 GMT
Nope, that's a great TV. I'd have got it if I could have afforded it. Similar to mine, but all UK catch up, faster processor, new OS and more
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Post by Phattso on Sept 25, 2021 16:26:43 GMT
My 5 year old Sony KDL50 finally gave up this morning. I've been out of touch with what's hot on the telly scene for a while but made the jump to 4K today with an LG C1 55 OLED. Need to also upgrade the Apple TV to 4K and probably buy another storage drive for the NAS if I'm to now slowly convert over. Did I make the right choice or should I now regret everything? Check out the in-built Apple TV app before buying an Apple TV 4K. In fact all of the onboard apps are really good. It has Plex App too, if you have a NAS setup. I have the same set, and had a non 4K Apple TV before I got it, and haven’t felt the need to upgrade. I’d save the £180 and invest it elsewhere. YMMV. Enjoy the set! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2021 22:12:41 GMT
I just got one, upgrading from an absolute top-end TV from 2015. And all I can say is that I have no regrets.
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Post by Chaz on Sept 26, 2021 10:20:51 GMT
Just got a payrise so I've ordered a 55" CX. Arrives Friday. Now I need to figure out how to afford the £1,500 I'll need to drop on an audio set-up... More or less the situation I'm now in. I'll stick with the sound bar this year and do the whole receiver and speaker thing sometime next year. I've worked out I could piece together a reasonable budget setup for around £1000. Richer Sounds have some reasonable kit at good prices. |
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Post by harrypalmer on Sept 27, 2021 10:48:34 GMT
I want this - www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHcjvdGbaa0 - Sony HT A9 I currently have no home theatre setup other than my CX and a sound bar. Will generally use headphones if I want to crank the volume and get something close to a home cinema sound. I honestly think I need to start at a lower price point but the review makes them very appealing! |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 27, 2021 10:51:33 GMT
Yeah, I watched that yesterday and am half thinking about trading in my current setup for it. The 'you need a sub' take it over 2k, though, which is a lot of cheddar.
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Post by harrypalmer on Sept 27, 2021 11:11:17 GMT
Yeah, if you could get the sub included I'd be very tempted. Although to be honest part of the appeal for getting a home cinema setup is the research and tinkering aspect of putting it all together. It does sound really ideal for my current layout though.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 27, 2021 11:30:34 GMT
I was thinking about upgrading the beam to an arc but this is a strong new contender. I am so embedded in the sonos ecosystem though.
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Post by Derblington on Sept 27, 2021 13:00:21 GMT
I watched that review yesterday and even I'm tempted to swap out my gear for it. I'd love to know how it actually sounds though.
They mention a scene with a heartbeat being really clear at the start A Quiet Place Pt II, much better than other equipment they've demoed. I have the movie so I booted it up to check it out and it's very, very faint on my set-up. I'm really curious how the HT-A9 is identifying and producing specific sounds that expensive high-end gear is having issue with.
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Post by Derblington on Sept 27, 2021 13:04:12 GMT
I did read something about it not being great in smaller rooms though, so I wonder if it needs space around the listening position, without walls limiting the sound stage, to properly approximate the phantom speakers to create the sound dome.
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Post by harrypalmer on Sept 27, 2021 13:16:28 GMT
The more I read up on them the more I want them, it just seems perfect for my room layout: quite a large open plan space with relatively low ceilings, but not at all suited to having rigidly placed speakers (hence planning for a dedicated home cinema room). Having a bit more flexibility of where the speakers go, the fact that there are only 4 of them, and the fact that it apparently sounds terrific, feels like a no-brainer. Pricey though, and just not financially viable for me until next year, so given they already appear to be quite scarce I guess I'll just have to wait and see. Would love to hear them though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 13:40:39 GMT
The best value system seems to me to be the Samsung HW-Q950A. It's out of stock most places so that gives me some time to save; anyone here got any experience with one, particularly in a small room?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2021 18:50:33 GMT
So my C1 developed a weird white line down the right side of the screen. Called John Lewis and they're replacing it on Monday - and refunding me £100 as it's now on sale. That's... pretty fucking good service.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 1, 2021 18:57:01 GMT
That's pretty unlucky but glad they're sorting.
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Oct 3, 2021 15:54:36 GMT
I have been considering an upgrade to something 4K from my aging and slightly small 42" Panasonic Plasma TV for a while. An LG OLED has obviously been high on the list but I still worry if I am going to see any downsides compared to what I have (mainly to do with motion and potentially input lag (as I am unsure how good the IL is on my model)). I have seen varying concerns to do with local dimming in areas, juddery motion etc from some people in the old thread which has kept me hesitant. I have also spotted the QN95A mentioned on the first page of this thread. I also see that neither of the above options cover all the HDR formats (I am also not sure which HDR formats are most supported in current stuff).
Currently the only (ignoring my PC) 4K device I have is a Fire Stick 4K but I plan to grab a PS5 at some point and possibly a 4K Blu-ray player. I have a Switch and older consoles (both HDMI and older retro stuff such as GameCubes, PS2s, Dreamcast's, Saturn's etc) which raises my next questions. Is the upscaling any good on these TVs (my Plasma is fine for older stuff like Saturn and PS1 as an example) or am I going to be very disappointed in the results?
And finally for people who use nonHDMI consoles what is the best option for connectivity, thing like OSSCs, custom HDMI cables or Am I missing a better option? Obviously I want to minimise adding extra lag while doing this and AFAIK no modern TVs have legacy ports except RF (which I will not be using).
If it matters, chances are I will just be using standard TV speakers as never been an audiophile. Apologies for the length of the post.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2021 10:32:22 GMT
I have been considering an upgrade to something 4K from my aging and slightly small 42" Panasonic Plasma TV for a while. An LG OLED has obviously been high on the list but I still worry if I am going to see any downsides compared to what I have (mainly to do with motion and potentially input lag (as I am unsure how good the IL is on my model)). I have seen varying concerns to do with local dimming in areas, juddery motion etc from some people in the old thread which has kept me hesitant. I have also spotted the QN95A mentioned on the first page of this thread. I also see that neither of the above options cover all the HDR formats (I am also not sure which HDR formats are most supported in current stuff). Currently the only (ignoring my PC) 4K device I have is a Fire Stick 4K but I plan to grab a PS5 at some point and possibly a 4K Blu-ray player. I have a Switch and older consoles (both HDMI and older retro stuff such as GameCubes, PS2s, Dreamcast's, Saturn's etc) which raises my next questions. Is the upscaling any good on these TVs (my Plasma is fine for older stuff like Saturn and PS1 as an example) or am I going to be very disappointed in the results? And finally for people who use nonHDMI consoles what is the best option for connectivity, thing like OSSCs, custom HDMI cables or Am I missing a better option? Obviously I want to minimise adding extra lag while doing this and AFAIK no modern TVs have legacy ports except RF (which I will not be using). If it matters, chances are I will just be using standard TV speakers as never been an audiophile. Apologies for the length of the post. Hiya. 42" panasonic plasmas had an inpout lag of ~30ms and the CS has 13.3ms, so that will be an improvement. The LG OLED TV's are generally seen as the best gaming TVs. Regards, local dimming, being OLED, this does not apply. That''s an LCD problem.. You can see an impact from automatic brightness limiting, but thats not local dimming. As for juddery motion, if you turn off all the auto / intelligent / true motion settings, then juddering is not normally noticable. You will get some if you have the "right" (low frame rate) source material, but adjusting true motion will sort that. The CX supports HDR, Dolby vision and HLG. It does not support HDR10+, but Dolby Vision is superior to it and LG's Active HDR is similar to it. Also, there isn't much in the way of content that uses HDR10+ (which is promoted by Samsung). In short, you will be fine with the formats it supports, which is everything apart from HDR10+. It has its own 4k Apps, (including apple TV, YouTube and Internet Browser). which means I no longer use my 4K firestick on that TV as its pointless as the LG apps are better. I've got a Switch attached to my CX and I think the upscaling is really great. Spyro was noticeably improved. Colours popped and clarity was much improved d. SD content I've used has all been upscaled and its now hard to tell when I'm watching something HD and something SD (unless its something awesome like Terminator 2 or LOTR). No idea about non-hdmi sources I'm afraid. It has no legacy ports (Aside fromRF, which I also don't use). We have a surround sound system setup and attached to it, but to be honest, I often forget to turn it on or don't notice its not on and can't tell a great deal of difference (aside from bass and rear speakers). To be honest , its the lask of rear sound that really makes me notice. So its sound is really good. Bear in mind I've got very old ears though, so yours may differ. |
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Post by richardiox on Oct 4, 2021 10:34:34 GMT
Yeah just get a 55" LG CX it's the fucking bees knees and ticks all the "next gen TV" boxes.
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Oct 4, 2021 13:01:25 GMT
Thanks for the detailed reply. I possibly mixed some of the terminology but it was some antiburn-in dimming possibly. If I play older non HD consoles I expect more weird frame rates and resolutions (particularly with my Saturn). The CX has been one of the main ones I have been looking at although just missed a few sales, but I imagine more will be coming over next month or so. Got to decide whether 55 is plenty for living room or if a 65 will work as last time I had just moved into a smaller house and (foolishly) felt 50"was too big for my plasma, a fact my wife has chided me for over the years  . I will have to do some more detailed investigation into legacy cables and scan convertors etc... I assume the basic built in LG CX speakers will be no worse than on my old Panasonic. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2021 13:53:53 GMT
As I say, the speakers are more than okay. They're a lot better than I thought they'd be.
You'll struggle to get a either these days to be honest and certainly not from a well known store.
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Post by lew on Oct 5, 2021 9:25:36 GMT
Does anyone have any experience with the QE75Q80AATXXU? Got my heart set on a 75" and it's one of the better specced tv's in the price range but just wondered if anyone had any better suggestions? This ones between 1500-1700 depending on the store but waiting for black Friday for the inevitable drop. My only real pre-requisites is hdr, 120 fps on the xbox / ps5.
Cheers!
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Post by Phattso on Oct 5, 2021 9:33:26 GMT
Yeah, I watched that yesterday and am half thinking about trading in my current setup for it. The 'you need a sub' take it over 2k, though, which is a lot of cheddar. You have the gen 1 Beam don’t you? Now that the gen 2 has eArc and Atmo support (for all the good it’ll do without upfiring speakers) I’m tempted. A price I can swallow and not a massive carbuncle to stick to the wall. I'm not expecting the world, I'd just like a slightly more punchy soundscape than my CX internal speakers, and - most importantly - more clarity in speaking. Basically I need to be able to hear every word in a Chris Nolan film from across the room. Would it get the Throatpunch seal of approval? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 10:59:05 GMT
Does anyone have any experience with the QE75Q80AATXXU? Got my heart set on a 75" and it's one of the better specced tv's in the price range but just wondered if anyone had any better suggestions? This ones between 1500-1700 depending on the store but waiting for black Friday for the inevitable drop. My only real pre-requisites is hdr, 120 fps on the xbox / ps5. Cheers! Hiya. I don't have one, but I have access to Which. It gets 67% which is not great. Its not a bad TV, its just not a great one. Low res content looks cold and dark (upscaling isn't awesome) and the picture in general looked a bit like it could be sharper, more vibrant and more balanced. Red tends to dominate, but the picture is cold and flat regardless. Sound is good, though dialogue could be better and the TV can rattle at times. Menus and user experience are good. App store could be better. It has Freesync for gaming to reduce tearing. TLDR: Its too expensive for what you're getting. |
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Post by lordofthedunce on Oct 5, 2021 11:03:04 GMT
Does anyone have any experience with the QE75Q80AATXXU? Got my heart set on a 75" and it's one of the better specced tv's in the price range but just wondered if anyone had any better suggestions? This ones between 1500-1700 depending on the store but waiting for black Friday for the inevitable drop. My only real pre-requisites is hdr, 120 fps on the xbox / ps5. Cheers! Hiya. I don't have one, but I have access to Which. It gets 67% which is not great. Its not a bad TV, its just not a great one. Low res content looks cold and dark (upscaling isn't awesome) and the picture in general looked a bit like it could be sharper, more vibrant and more balanced. Red tends to dominate, but the picture is cold and flat regardless. Sound is good, though dialogue could be better and the TV can rattle at times. Menus and user experience are good. App store could be better. It has Freesync for gaming to reduce tearing. TLDR: Its too expensive for what you're getting. I'm not sure if the A series carries over much of the tech from last year's Ts but there's a massive thread on av forums about judder/motion problems with a lot of the Samsungs. Ultimately, for gaming and films it doesn't seem like so much of a problem than with SD content. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 11:04:24 GMT
PS: According to Which, the OLED LG's are the best TV's (followed by LG's NaNo range). Best Samsung is the QE Q95T range (76%) followed by the QE QN90AAT
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Post by lew on Oct 5, 2021 17:03:16 GMT
Does anyone have any experience with the QE75Q80AATXXU? Got my heart set on a 75" and it's one of the better specced tv's in the price range but just wondered if anyone had any better suggestions? This ones between 1500-1700 depending on the store but waiting for black Friday for the inevitable drop. My only real pre-requisites is hdr, 120 fps on the xbox / ps5. Cheers! Hiya. I don't have one, but I have access to Which. It gets 67% which is not great. Its not a bad TV, its just not a great one. Low res content looks cold and dark (upscaling isn't awesome) and the picture in general looked a bit like it could be sharper, more vibrant and more balanced. Red tends to dominate, but the picture is cold and flat regardless. Sound is good, though dialogue could be better and the TV can rattle at times. Menus and user experience are good. App store could be better. It has Freesync for gaming to reduce tearing. TLDR: Its too expensive for what you're getting. Ah, that's disappointing. A mate has the 2020 q80t and it looks incredible, was hoping this year's iteration was just a natural progression. The search continues. The lg's and those Samsungs you listed are far too rich for my blood unfortunately. Wouldn't be too bad but definitely want 75“ for the next screen. |
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Post by RobEG on Oct 6, 2021 21:44:09 GMT
Couldn’t find a thread so…
As per the title - I’m looking to buy a new tv for my soon to be converted garage. Thinking 43 inch should do the trick. Will be used for tv / Netflix as well as gaming (ps5 at some point soon hopefully!).
I’m looking at a Samsung, as I like the one I have in the living room. I’m just not sure whether it’s going to worth paying the bit extra (c. £200) for QLED. I like the idea, but not sure whether it’s really going to matter on a tv that size vs a decent 4K / HDR.
Any of the usual expert FG advice welcomed.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Oct 7, 2021 1:24:08 GMT
Don't some of the latest Samsung's have forced adverts?
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Post by Dougs on Oct 7, 2021 5:41:50 GMT
Have merged into this thread
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2021 6:10:50 GMT
Couldn’t find a thread so… As per the title - I’m looking to buy a new tv for my soon to be converted garage. Thinking 43 inch should do the trick. Will be used for tv / Netflix as well as gaming (ps5 at some point soon hopefully!). I’m looking at a Samsung, as I like the one I have in the living room. I’m just not sure whether it’s going to worth paying the bit extra (c. £200) for QLED. I like the idea, but not sure whether it’s really going to matter on a tv that size vs a decent 4K / HDR. Any of the usual expert FG advice welcomed. As it happens I was helping a friend look for a 43" TV on Monday (at least I was looking up on Which for him). Precis of what I texted him was: Highest rated 43" on Which is the LG 43UN74006LB at £399 and 70%. There was also the LG 43UP81006LA (£429 and 69%), which is the highest rated 43" I could find for sale. I convinced him to go up to the 49-50" size as you get more for your money at that size. I tried to convince him that either the LG 50nano806pa (£599 70%) or a Samsung. According to Which, if you want a 43~ and you want a Samsung, the best that seems available in the UK is the UE43TU8500 (£429 and 65%) followed by the UE43AU7100KXXU (64% and £429). At larger size and Samsung, there is the UE50Tu7000 at £379 and 67%. but I couldn't find that in stock anywhere. SImilar with the UE50TU7020KXXU (£429 and 67%) . Best in stock Samsung in the larger size was the UE50TU8500 £529 at 71%. My mate ended up going for a Hisense... he's dead to me. |
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Post by RobEG on Oct 7, 2021 6:11:31 GMT
Ah thanks Dougs 👍
Not sure on forced adverts. Doesn’t have to be Samsung if it’s not QLED. Just not sure it’s worth it on a tv that size. A few options I’m looking at are Samsung QE43Q65A, LG 43UP77006LB, Phillips 43PUS7505/12. There’s actually loads of options.
It’s actually nearly double the price for the QLED, so I’m now questioning if it’s worth it.
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