Home Theater Advice - 4K, Dolby Vision, HDR, Atmos & more...

Bit overkill though isn't it? 7.4.2, 8k and THX certified. Still, at just over a grand it's bloody good value I guess.

I'm always in a quandry with my kit, because when everything is working properly, it's all fantastic, but this fucking flickering handshake issue is a bloody pisser with the ps5 and the uhd player.

My luck would be replacing the existing receiver with something like this onkyo, and then still having the fucking flickering problem!

I don't get why Sony haven't changed the output options like they did for the ps4. Everyone is moaning like fuck about it online.

Edit - here's a classic example posted on reddit just before the ps5 launch and it has hundreds of similar replies -


Will the PS5 fix the black screen dropouts?

This is my biggest fear and hesitation with getting a PS5 at launch. - With the discussion of HDMI 2.1 and 4k @120fps (or even 60) - will the PS5 continue to be plagued with black screen dropouts like many of us experience on the Pro? Will it make it worse? If we have trouble with HDMI 2.0, I can't imagine 2.1 speeds will make things better for the handshake issue.



I know it's practically impossible to speculate, but I hope Sony clears this up. IMO, it's absolutely ridiculous that this still hasn't been solved years down the road and many patches later. - Whether it be Sony's responsibility or the TV manufacturer. I know it's most common among Samsung, but I've seen Vizo, Sony and a variety of other TVs mentioned with the problem.

And the pisser is, if you read all the comments, it is totally random. Some people with the SAME KIT AS ME don't get it, and some do. Some get it on different devices, different TV brands, different devices plugged in - it's an absolute fucking nightmare to troubleshoot, and it's been going on for years now.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love one to piss about with, but I cannot justify changing anything while I have this flickering problem. I have to get to the bottom of it first before spunking cash on shiny.

I still need to try that too, cheers for the reminder.

What baffles me is the fact that the PS3 and the Switch are absolutely fine. I've even TRIED to get them to fuck up and they never go wrong. So then you think, right, well maybe it's only doing it for HDR devices. Ok fine, lets carry on - 

If it was just the PS5, then I could just go to town on the PS5's settings, or at least identify that it is the culprit.

But the UHD player does it as well. So ok, maybe it is HDR only devices.

So maybe the receiver then? But they all use the same receiver.

Changed all the leads 50 million times, tried all different sockets. Checked all the settings. Updated all the firmware. Zippo, fuck all works.

The *only* thing that is concrete about it, is if you try to use a ps4 or a ps4 pro. The HDMI output defaults to Auto. Changing that from either Auto or RGB (if it's set to that for whatever reason), to YUV immediately solves the problem on the ps4.

Not so lucky on the PS5 or the UHD player, because that options ISN'T FUCKING AVAILABLE!!!

Here is my fucking culprit! 




Might as well show the atmos while I'm here. Messy wiring I know, but this is a house in the countryside where you're lucky to find a straight wall, never mind batman from the 1960's type angles everywhere.

But this is what I mean about having the speakers *really* close to your head and directly above. Does make the difference - 

@quad Yeah, that makes sense. I would have had to hunt for some streamlined speakers to be able to put them overhead, as my sofa is on the back wall of my room. The height surrounds were the best option, but I'd like to have in-ceiling speakers if I have the option in a future home, and they would be brought in closer to the seating position.

Back when I worked in corporate IT (what a soul destroying job), we had a whole load of identical HP base units with identical software setups. We had one base unit that refused to work when plugged into  a particular network port. Plug it into the port next to it and it worked fine. Other base units worked just fine in that particular port too. So what as it about that particular port that that one base unit did not like? We tried the obvious, checked the network settings etc, changed the network cable, changed where it was patched into on the switch and even a different switch. Nothing made a difference. But it worked OK in the port next to it and everything else worked OK in that particular port, so in the end it just wasn't worth wasting any more time over.

This is the problem manufacturers have when faced with issues like this. When many identical setups work but one doesn't, despite everything on the affected unit checking out OK, it becomes very hard to find the problem. They might not even be able to replicate the issue customers are having in the first place, if the units they test work fine. Think of all the variations in setups like that, with cables and equipment with differing model and manufacturing numbers. The issue might even be due to a minor variation in manufacturing tolerances, like maybe a part that's been sourced from a different supplier for a particular batch run. Think of the man hours needed to investigate that. And who is going to do it? Sony or Samsung? If the issue only affects a miniscule percentage of their customers, then realistically, neither are going to bother putting the man hours into an issue like that.

So unfortunately your best bet of solving the issue will be to swap out the bit of kit that is most likely the cause of the problem. If the issue is affecting both your PS5 and your UHD player, then it's probably neither of those. Although I would try running them all in isolation for a bit first to make sure, ie unplugging the UHD player and anything else from the setup when using the PS5 through the receiver and visa versa, and also try running both direct to the TV rather than through an intermediary piece of equipment such as a receiver. If they both work fine plugged into the TV but still have issues when used in isolation through the receiver, then you know it's the receiver that's causing your problems.

I have a similar sort of issue with my setup. When my HUMAX TV recorder is left off in standby mode, which is plugged into one of the spare HDMI ports on my LG TV, the HDMI Arc port will not send audio back to my sound bar. If I power the HUMAX box on or unplug it from the TV, the Arc port works fine. No idea why. It doesn't matter which of the two spare HDMI ports it's plugged into, if it's in standby mode, it stops the arc port from sending out audio. A minor annoyance but not a big deal.
 

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Gratz!

Congrats. I bought one as a result of some serious overtime a couple of months back. I've had it nearly a month and still amazed every time I turn it on. Picture is terrific and sound via my amp is too.

Look at unpacking videos before you get it and take off the AI features. Best bet for the missing All4 is setup the browser to open the Channel 4 website. I've set it up so a long press of '4' on the remote opens that.

Also leave it in standby (don't turn off at the plug) as it does pixel checks to prevent image burn when it's off.

I'm connected to an onkyo amp via arc and honestly I was amazed in the difference in sound quality with the CX and 4k movies. I watched a bit of 4k T2 and heard so many sounds I'd never heard before. I've got it connected to Cambridge minis front and back and a Cambridge woofer.

I am having some problems with my sources (especially the switch) seeming to not release the amp after use and it sticking on Game for instance and needing a power cycle. I'm thinking of connecting all sources to the TV rather than the amp because of this.

Oh but it's fancy isn't it