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Post by Blackmarsh63 on Nov 8, 2021 16:51:58 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Nov 8, 2021 16:55:53 GMT
That looks pretty good for that price.
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Post by KD on Nov 8, 2021 18:19:25 GMT
Only last year I bought my grandfather a 8500 model, I like the picture and this years model has more gaming features so made sense and hopefully lasts me another 14 years.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2021 18:27:50 GMT
According to Which magazine, the UE50AU9000 is a 57%
Pros:
Great 4K picture (HDR 4K)
Easy to setup and use
Cons:
Thin and weak sound
Harsh and shrill treble
Colours can look drab
They recommend against buying it as they say tyhe sound is "shockingly bad". If you're using a sound bar or external speakers then it might be okay I guess (it has eARC)
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Post by KD on Nov 8, 2021 19:35:57 GMT
I have a 5.1 system already and not long ordered this tv, pick up on Friday.
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Post by mikew1985 on Nov 9, 2021 8:52:20 GMT
Just got an old footy teammate to quote building some custom units either side of my alcove (one with the TV, one for general storage).
In the course of his visit he seemed to latch on to my mention of hating the alcove and my notion of just getting rid. He said it wasn't that big a job (it's a fake fireplace with an electric fan heater so no gas or anything).
Anyway as it turns out he can't really do a decent cabinet on the non TV side unless we move a rad which brings it into a bigger job than I hoped.
Anyway he came back to quote removal of the fireplace and a huge Central custom cabinet for €4.5k.(about 3.8k in your money) it's about 3 grand more than I really anticipated spending on this project but it would mean no more alcove and would leave the door open for a possible increase in TV size next time I upgrade...
I'm hugely tempted.
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Post by ozthegweat on Nov 9, 2021 13:15:34 GMT
What else are you going to do with that money anyway. Investing into home entertainment is always the right choice.
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Post by mikew1985 on Nov 9, 2021 15:39:40 GMT
I basically came in here for positive reinforcement that removal of a fireplace in favour of a media centric wall of storage was the only real choice in this scenario.
Really though I'm sure I've moaned in the previous incarnation of this thread about the room before. The alcove isn't even deep enough for a decent shelf above the TV.
It also, crucially facilitates the notion that my next TV could be larger than the current 65 inch, which is honestly just about squeezed into the current space.
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Post by technoish on Nov 9, 2021 15:47:16 GMT
If you can get rid of the alcove fucking do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by technoish on Nov 9, 2021 15:47:35 GMT
(that sufficient?)
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Post by Dougs on Nov 9, 2021 16:06:35 GMT
Can you not mount the TV on the chimney and then feed everything through to a purpose build cabinet in the alcove? S'what I'm planning to do at some point...
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Post by mikew1985 on Nov 9, 2021 19:30:21 GMT
Well not to be melodramatic but I'd rather kill myself than mount something to a chimney (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're looking at removing the fireplace and not mounting it above one, I assume you're not a monster). It's only a fake breast anyway. It's about 30cm deep and honestly serves no purpose other than housing a fake fireplace.
It's about 2 meters wide too. It's a terrible waste of space for someone like me.
Bonus detail; there's quite a large set of Windows in the room and they're very tall, this leaves very little room in the alcove space on the TV side for any sort of unit above 50-60cm too.
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Post by elstoof on Nov 9, 2021 22:13:30 GMT
Tv that high on the wall is a neck ache Dougs
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Post by mikew1985 on Nov 9, 2021 23:03:12 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Nov 9, 2021 23:29:27 GMT
Tv that high on the wall is a neck ache Dougs Depends on the fire innit. We don't have one at the moment, but my wife has her heart set on putting back the chimney and having built in cupboards/alcoves either side. After taking on board my whining that there's no way I'm having a TV mounted high enough to allow for a wood burner, she's relented and we'll go for a letterbox gas fire low enough down so the TV isn't at a daft height. Apparently I ruined everything by buying a 55" TV. Worth it. |
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Post by stixxuk on Nov 11, 2021 12:27:28 GMT
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Post by Derblington on Nov 11, 2021 12:32:06 GMT
Yeah, I want to test them. I might pick up a set once I can find them available somewhere and test them out for a week.
Much as I like my set-up for being proper audiophile, and I like the aesthetic of having the speakers all about, having less equipment and wires for the same result is objectively better.
ed: and just like that, they're available to to me for delivery for the end of Nov. Hmmm.
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Post by Derblington on Nov 11, 2021 13:23:32 GMT
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Post by ozthegweat on Nov 11, 2021 13:45:50 GMT
Meh, Rtings is great when it comes to measurable metrics like nits for OLEDs, or for detailed specs. But I would take their audio product reviews with a grain of salt.
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Post by Derblington on Nov 11, 2021 13:53:35 GMT
Yeah, for sure, but there are a couple of people on AVS that have agreed with it. Many that don't. More worrying is lot of people seem to be getting audio drop outs, and seemingly fewer whose experiences have been flawless. It's a lot of money to spend to not have it perform as expected.
My preferred audio purchase store here has a 14 day return policy so I just need to decide if I want to go through the trouble of trying them out, and then returning or swapping and selling on my other stuff. I like my set-up but I'm super curious how these work. It's cool tech.
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Post by gamingdave on Nov 11, 2021 16:05:09 GMT
It looks like clever tech, but ultimately they are small speakers so not going to go loud or have great dynamic range. If it's also compressing the audio to send it wirelessly, then that's another downside.
Certainly a step up from a soundbar, but then a big jump in price too - plus the need to easily plug them in.
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Post by stixxuk on Nov 11, 2021 16:14:57 GMT
They seem like they're designed for open plan, which is what led me to them. I loved the idea of having a soundbar to do it all, but just don't think it will work in my viewing space (TV in corner, 2 sofas diagonally opposite, space behind one of them and a wall behind the other
Otherwise... HT-A7000? But it goes well north of 2 grand once you add sub and rears - can't be doing that!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 16:27:07 GMT
Just wait a few more years and you'll find you can't hear fuck all anyway. Save yourself a few grand  |
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Post by quadfather on Nov 11, 2021 16:37:57 GMT
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Post by gamingdave on Nov 11, 2021 16:47:08 GMT
They seem like they're designed for open plan, which is what led me to them. I loved the idea of having a soundbar to do it all, but just don't think it will work in my viewing space (TV in corner, 2 sofas diagonally opposite, space behind one of them and a wall behind the other Otherwise... HT-A7000? But it goes well north of 2 grand once you add sub and rears - can't be doing that! I can totally see the appeal, and for a lot of layouts I'm sure they are a massive step up from simple stereo. Don't see them working very well if the TV is in the corner though, as whilst the positioning can be flexible, it's surely going to work best when setup as close to a square as possible. With a TV in a corner you are never going to be able to separate the "fronts" much. I'm lucky to have complete control of my room, and always had rectangular living rooms. So the TV has always been middle of shortest wall with speakers then placed in optimal positions. There was one house where I lived with the ex-wife that had the TV in the corner, but I also had a projector and pull down screen for "my" viewing which was correctly positioned |
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Post by Dougs on Nov 11, 2021 17:04:12 GMT
The lack of a centre speaker would concern me, given some of the poor sound mixes that Directors are happy with.
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Post by ozthegweat on Nov 12, 2021 6:52:48 GMT
The lack of a centre speaker would concern me, given some of the poor sound mixes that Directors are happy with. When combined with some Sony OLEDs, the TV speaker, which is supposed to sound very good, can be used as the center speaker. |
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Post by Derblington on Nov 12, 2021 8:19:28 GMT
I think everything I’ve seen says they’re better without the centre as the TVs don’t match the timbre, and there’s surprising clarity from the phantom set-up.
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Post by ozthegweat on Nov 12, 2021 12:37:33 GMT
Typical Sony. Who would be better suited to create a audio product that matches the built-in speakers of Sony TVs than Sony themselves. Especially if said audio product doesn't have a centre speaker and said TVs have a centre speaker mode as USP.
But it's not surprising after the lack of HDR passthrough on the first PSVR, and the lack of PS5's HDMI 2.1 features on their TVs. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
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Post by darkling on Nov 16, 2021 13:38:13 GMT
So, after owning an LG CX / Sonos Beam for a whole year, I've (rather embarrassingly) only just discovered a wonderful sound option, and I just thought I'd mention it, in case anyone else isn't aware.
On your TV, if you set the HDMI ARC audio out to the 'Pass Through' option (mine was on 'PCM' by default) you gain a Dolby Digital 2.0 signal to the Beam and it completely transforms the sound.
The sound is now more throaty, with more low-end punch, but somehow fuller and clearer at the same time.
I always thought audio pass through was exclusively associated with stand-alone AV receiver units, and it's a way of telling the TV to let the audio signal to "pass through" it, untouched by any additional processing, so that the AV receiver can process the pure audio signal. I didn't know it also applied to soundbars, and I just assumed TVs would know when a soundbar is directly connected to it and handle it in the best way possible. I guess not.
Additionally, it also seems to overcome the annoying Beam bug, whereby when it goes into low power mode after 15 minutes it takes a couple of seconds to wake up, which is very annoying when you unpause something and miss dialogue. Now it wakes up instantly, presumably because the passthrough option cuts out any pre-processing of the audio signal by the TV itself, and just sends the pure audio signal directly to the Beam... bam, instant sound.
Anyway, I feel like a bit of an idiot for not discovering this earlier, but I hope this info helps some people to get more out of their speaker / soundbar setup.
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