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Post by Danno on Apr 7, 2024 22:52:33 GMT
Halve the regeneration and disable it entirely in phase two (or disable for Waterfowl and P2), and I think Malenia would be a far better fight.
Still have to solve Fire Giant/Malekith/Elden Beast a bit
(Stupid health, stupid mobility+health+lol your HP/stupid no Torrent)
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Post by f00b_inc on Apr 9, 2024 12:45:59 GMT
Right... good progress past couple of days!
Made it through Leyndell - insane how massive it is! I actually think I might now be over-levelled (or else thanks to my stint in Deeproot depths upgrading ashes/weapons) as I actually blitzed ghost Godfrey & then Morgott first time! Saying that the motherfucking leyndell knight cunts would get me every time I walked around a corner into one of them.
I stopped at the point where I was about to take Rold lift up somewhere new so I'm sure it is smooth sailing from here..
Must admit I have been using a guide to remind myself what was going on and what to do with various NPC quests - I managed to finish Sellen's quest (I think?) and am making progress with Ranni (I think I need to go back down to Nokron at some point as I took a break from the underground around Deeproot Depths). I have no idea how I would stumble in to a lot of this stuff but I regret stopping playing on release as the first few weeks of discovery along with everyone else are always brilliant with From games.
Also how ridiculously evil is the Dung Eater :joy just so up front about how he is going to murder everyone and all their children forever and ever.
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Post by loto on Apr 11, 2024 10:35:26 GMT
Up to Azula on my second character, still great to be back and more stoked for the DLC too. I’d love it if they considered some quality of life changes:
More Ghost Glovewort slab things for my team. It would be cool to take more than one lot in too, depending on FP for proper chaos.
Be able to sell to the blacksmith & tuner and give them the ball bearings too, so I don’t have to back out to menus or hoof it round the table to buy more upgrades when I’m short.
More Arcane stuff, better bows and builds. My +25 longbow should scale better than D/D
Frozen dragon in MOTG needs a nerf and a tweak to keep the cunt on the ground without spamming his frostbite death attack.
That’ll do for now.
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Post by f00b_inc on Apr 12, 2024 9:48:22 GMT
Cleared out Deeproot and Nostrella last night (the second underground city?) and killed some giant space ant thingy (Astel). Lake of Rot was annoying though - surely that's it for poison swamps now...
I think I've definitely reached a point where my Mimic Tear feels like it has enabled easy mode for some bosses. I still get randomly shanked by mobs that jump out at me and of course any dogs running about insta-stun-lock.
I also went back and finished off Volcano Manor / Rykard - that actually took me about 10 tries and I even resorted to upgrading the spear to try to help me out. Was starting to get that familiar feeling of despair with a boss that kept undoing me through the unavoidable AOE + shitty camera.
Mountain of Giants feels like another step up too - takes a while to kill the ice giants themselves so finding myself just running past things now. Not sure if that's just my gear not being right for the job or if everything is just going to become a HP sponge from here on out.
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Post by loto on Apr 12, 2024 10:17:50 GMT
Yeah , I think it’s the latter - too much enemy HP and it saps some of the enjoyment. Met an enemy earlier with a one eye shield that basically one shot me- it’s a bit daft. The environment doesn’t help as it takes the joy of exploring when there’s sheer drops everywhere.
I hope there’s some easier stuff in the dlc to mix things up a bit. I’m all for a challenge, but some of this lot feel like gank squad reunited
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Post by RadicalRex on Apr 12, 2024 12:27:22 GMT
Yeah it's not you, in the snow regions it's not really worth bothering with enemies. Also it's usually recommended to level vigor up to 60 in the late game because of inflated enemy damage.
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Post by f00b_inc on Apr 12, 2024 12:33:26 GMT
Hmm okay thanks for the heads up maybe I should start pumping VIG up a bit further then in advance of the end game!
I got the Dark Moon sword earlier though which has been a fun change of pace from the Moonveil I've been using for half the game! I'm actually enjoying going backwards and mopping up catacombs/caves from earlier on in the game just now since the way forward has slowed down a bit. Still loving the exploration of all the nooks and crannies! Hopefully I don't burn out before the end if the later mobs really do start to grate.
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Post by jeepers on Apr 12, 2024 12:56:28 GMT
Consecrated Snowfield was the biggest difficulty spike - and by far the least enjoyable area so far (altho’ Lake of Rot was also quite meh). I’m now just pushing to the finish, with the knowledge that it’s mainly damage sponges and bosses to go.
The first 3/4 of this game make it one of the best I’ve ever played. The last 1/4 feels rushed and surprisingly sloppy compared to the opening and mid-game.
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Post by loto on Apr 12, 2024 13:56:47 GMT
@foob - this character is at 55 Vigour, it drops off a cliff after 60. I use the Erdtree talisman +2 for a boost or equip one of the great runes if I’m feeling brave.
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Post by f00b_inc on Apr 12, 2024 15:54:15 GMT
@foob - this character is at 55 Vigour, it drops off a cliff after 60. I use the Erdtree talisman +2 for a boost or equip one of the great runes if I’m feeling brave. Cheers! I'm at 40 so sounds like it's still worth upping it a fair bit more (I'd been pumping up DEX/INT for the most part). I've been using that Godrick rune intermittently but always get one shotted shortly after I apply it  |
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Post by loto on Apr 12, 2024 16:05:36 GMT
Yeah, I know that feeling.
I think 40 is plenty for the Dark Souls series, but in ER, you’ll be meeting plenty of enemies that can 1/2 shot you, so I’d try for around 50.
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Post by JonFE on Apr 12, 2024 16:25:03 GMT
@foob - this character is at 55 Vigour, it drops off a cliff after 60. I use the Erdtree talisman +2 for a boost or equip one of the great runes if I’m feeling brave. Cheers! I'm at 40 so sounds like it's still worth upping it a fair bit more (I'd been pumping up DEX/INT for the most part). I've been using that Godrick rune intermittently but always get one shotted shortly after I apply it As always, there are ways to speed up the leveling process in ER, if you are that way inclined. Youtube can be helpful in that area... |
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Post by hedben on Apr 12, 2024 16:30:26 GMT
Cheers! I'm at 40 so sounds like it's still worth upping it a fair bit more (I'd been pumping up DEX/INT for the most part). I've been using that Godrick rune intermittently but always get one shotted shortly after I apply it As always, there are ways to speed up the leveling process in ER, if you are that way inclined. Youtube can be helpful in that area... Haha I just yesterday, for the first time ever, on my second playthrough, tried a certain trick with a certain bird in a certain palace. It was… very profitable  |
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Post by JonFE on Apr 12, 2024 16:34:27 GMT
As always, there are ways to speed up the leveling process in ER, if you are that way inclined. Youtube can be helpful in that area... Haha I just yesterday, for the first time ever, on my second playthrough, tried a certain trick with a certain bird in a certain palace. It was… very profitable That poor bird must still have nightmares from our playthroughs... Highly doubt our local KFC has slaughtered so many chickens as me and JuniorFE |
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Post by f00b_inc on Apr 12, 2024 17:33:28 GMT
As always, there are ways to speed up the leveling process in ER, if you are that way inclined. Youtube can be helpful in that area... Haha I just yesterday, for the first time ever, on my second playthrough, tried a certain trick with a certain bird in a certain palace. It was… very profitable I've heard of this I might have to look it up if I start to get annoyed with the mobs after the snowy areas! Saying that I've not done any rune farming as yet and I'm about level 110 so I think I'm technically the 'right' level for these areas. Got killed by a small random plant earlier though so it doesn't really matter much |
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Post by Zyrr on Apr 12, 2024 17:44:19 GMT
With the Golden Scarab equipped you're looking at 13k+ runes per bird, which takes all of about 5 seconds between each reset. Stick a podcast on and get cheesing |
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Post by puddleduck on Apr 12, 2024 17:45:39 GMT
Cheers! I'm at 40 so sounds like it's still worth upping it a fair bit more (I'd been pumping up DEX/INT for the most part). I've been using that Godrick rune intermittently but always get one shotted shortly after I apply it As always, there are ways to speed up the leveling process in ER, if you are that way inclined. Youtube can be helpful in that area... You guys and that bird 😂 I personally think one of the biggest things the original souls series lost by Elden Ring, was the sense of risk/reward. Wondering whether to head back to a bonfire, or press on and try a potential boss was such a constant decision. Spend those hard earned souls, or risk losing them? Can I get back if I die? By Elden Ring, the checkpoints are so generous that aspect really felt diluted. This was probably heightened by the greater range of fast travel options. In Dark Souls, you didn't want to have to trek half the map for the best farming spot pre LV, as you'd have to trek back too! Struggling in an area in Dark Souls, well keep killing the enemies that are there and you will learn their movesets. By the end, I'm parrying Silver Knights for fun. In Elden Ring, if you use a farming spot like the bird, you just get good at shooting one arrow and you power level past. |
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Post by JuniorFE on Apr 12, 2024 18:08:19 GMT
Haha I just yesterday, for the first time ever, on my second playthrough, tried a certain trick with a certain bird in a certain palace. It was… very profitable That poor bird must still have nightmares from our playthroughs... Highly doubt our local KFC has slaughtered so many chickens as me and JuniorFE That bird has died more times than the entire playerbase combined... |
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Post by JuniorFE on Apr 12, 2024 18:10:41 GMT
As always, there are ways to speed up the leveling process in ER, if you are that way inclined. Youtube can be helpful in that area... You guys and that bird 😂 I personally think one of the biggest things the original souls series lost by Elden Ring, was the sense of risk/reward. Wondering whether to head back to a bonfire, or press on and try a potential boss was such a constant decision. Spend those hard earned souls, or risk losing them? Can I get back if I die? By Elden Ring, the checkpoints are so generous that aspect really felt diluted. This was probably heightened by the greater range of fast travel options. In Dark Souls, you didn't want to have to trek half the map for the best farming spot pre LV, as you'd have to trek back too! Struggling in an area in Dark Souls, well keep killing the enemies that are there and you will learn their movesets. By the end, I'm parrying Silver Knights for fun. In Elden Ring, if you use a farming spot like the bird, you just get good at shooting one arrow and you power level past. That's only in the original Dark Souls though (and maybe Demon's, I forget), in pretty much every other title transport to and from farming spots is easy. This isn't a new thing... And even in DS1, I don't remember the Darkroot Dumbasses being all that difficult to get to |
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Post by Zyrr on Apr 12, 2024 19:47:47 GMT
There's still plenty of cheese in DS1. The Drake Sword says hello just for starters, or throwing dung pies through the Capra Demon's fog gate |
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Post by JonFE on Apr 12, 2024 21:49:01 GMT
Zyrr I found out about the Capra cunt's cheese through the gate just the other day, couldn't believe it!
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Post by RadicalRex on Apr 13, 2024 8:38:58 GMT
Yeah, DS1 had a much stronger survival game aspect, but imo it was a gradual shift of emphasis away from that towards action game with shorter bursts of high difficulty that started in DS2 already (or even the DS1 DLC? Haven't played that). I see Elden Ring just as one step further on this path, I think in this regard DS3 is already much closer to ER than to DS1.
edit: ER's fast travel is actually more restrictive than DS3's. You can't beam out of caves/catacombs/etc without losing your runes, whereas DS3 allowed you to use Homeward Bones or Coiled Sword Fragment anywhere.
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Post by loto on Apr 13, 2024 9:26:24 GMT
The red chicken has been brutalised in my game too.
Now I’ve got Mog’s trident, I’ve been doing its special Nihil attack on the sleeping schmucks on the hill. Seeing the sky turn red under a blood rain whilst they explode just doesn’t get old.
Hope there’s more Arcane stuff in the DLC
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Post by JuniorFE on Apr 13, 2024 13:45:10 GMT
The red chicken has been brutalised in my game too. Now I’ve got Mog’s trident, I’ve been doing its special Nihil attack on the sleeping schmucks on the hill. Seeing the sky turn red under a blood rain whilst they explode just doesn’t get old. Hope there’s more Arcane stuff in the DLC The Sacred Relic Sword is also really fun on that hill, one Wave of Gold can wipe out pretty much the whole group. Of course, you have to beat the final boss to get that, but hey, DLC grinding |
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Post by hedben on Apr 14, 2024 13:20:32 GMT
Slightly starting to run out of steam on playthrough 2 - flitting about has been fun, but it’s a bit daunting how much stuff I’ve straight up ignored in my quest for spells, bell bearings and map pieces.
Boss strength seems wildly unpredictable too - I had no issues whatsoever with the putrid tree beast in Gelmir that gave me a lot of trouble last time- but the full grown fallingstar beast wiped the floor with me, while my spells and strike weapon hardly made a dent.
Thinking of getting my INT up to 60 so I can use the Comet Azur I just picked up- is that the one that melts bosses in seconds with the right talismans?
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Post by JuniorFE on Apr 14, 2024 13:24:13 GMT
Slightly starting to run out of steam on playthrough 2 - flitting about has been fun, but it’s a bit daunting how much stuff I’ve straight up ignored in my quest for spells, bell bearings and map pieces. Boss strength seems wildly unpredictable too - I had no issues whatsoever with the putrid tree beast in Gelmir that gave me a lot of trouble last time- but the full grown fallingstar beast wiped the floor with me, while my spells and strike weapon hardly made a dent. Thinking of getting my INT up to 60 so I can use the Comet Azur I just picked up- is that the one that melts bosses in seconds with the right talismans? It's less the talismans (although obviously the right ones are useful too), more the Terra Magica spell and 0 MP cost/magic damage buff Physick tears. And if you really want to go hard, Lusat's staff in the off-hand while casting with your better scaling staff. The damage buff from Lusat's still applies and the additional MP cost is negated by the 0 cost Physick buff. Result? A very dead boss: |
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Post by loto on Apr 14, 2024 20:17:59 GMT
hedben - know what you mean. There’s an Astel? enemy in a cave in consecrated snowfield that I’ve never beaten. I’ll give it a few tries, but then just move elsewhere if it’s artificially difficult. Life too short etc
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Post by JuniorFE on Apr 14, 2024 21:44:55 GMT
hedben - know what you mean. There’s an Astel? enemy in a cave in consecrated snowfield that I’ve never beaten. I’ll give it a few tries, but then just move elsewhere if it’s artificially difficult. Life too short etc Tbh if you've beaten regular Astel then the 2.0 Yelough Boogaloo version is basically more of the same but with bigger numbers. The only actually different attack IIRC is the teleport grab now spawning clones (which is pretty BS, to be fair), otherwise it's weak and strong against essentially the same strats |
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Post by f00b_inc on Apr 16, 2024 13:19:54 GMT
Killed the Fire Giant yesterday! Giant pot guy and mimic tear helped distract him but I must have got a bit lucky with not getting squashed by his ridiculous rolling around as I had to keep going in close to hack at his ankle.
The regular mobs now are too annoying and I just ride past them all. I imagine this will create a problem for me in later areas if I'm under-levelled (then it'd be time to find that bird to farm that you all keep taking about..) I think I have to do Castle Sol next then I might do a bit more backtracking to various Hero Graves I've skipped en route.
Feels like I'm inching closer to the end game!! I have made it to the end of a From game since DS1 so I'm starting to feel like a man on a mission.
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Post by loto on Apr 16, 2024 15:30:23 GMT
Well done & good luck in Castle Sol. We’ll have the wahmbulance on standby for when you get shafted…
I agree about Mountain top - I tend to search where the worthwhile items are, like ancient smithing stones, and just get them
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