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Post by stuz359 on Oct 14, 2022 23:11:21 GMT
I think some of you are doing these remakes a disservice. The original was released in 2008. The remake is due Jan 2023 (I think). That's a whole new generation of gamers perhaps encountering this game for the first time. Most of us have been around for a fairly long time, but even then, it's kind of like getting your favourite (or well regarded) movie in 4K.
I'm all for having the best version of a game. The price depends on the amount of effort that has gone into remastering a game. Upping resolution won't do it, but reworking all the art assets, as well as improving game mechanics is a lot of work, even if certain development steps can be skipped, such as pre-production.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2022 23:15:53 GMT
but he talks, stuz
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Post by aubergine on Oct 14, 2022 23:16:12 GMT
I’m all for them remaking one of my favourite games from 15 years ago.
Doing a remake of Horizon Zero Dawn is questionable.
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Post by wunty on Oct 14, 2022 23:21:11 GMT
I fucking loved dead space. Have zero interest in remakes. What a waste of talent and time. Resident Evil 2 Remake strongly disagrees with you. As does Demons Souls. I know what you mean, but I think this is honestly one of the exceptions. |
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Post by Derblington on Oct 14, 2022 23:22:04 GMT
You can’t really skip pre-prod. It’s not only where you prove your design but you prove your teams, tools and processes. Every project will need it.
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Post by pierrepressure on Oct 15, 2022 13:49:49 GMT
I think the point about there being a whole new audience there open to its sci-fi horror stylings is an important one. Let's not forget it wasn't a huge commercial success so there's plenty who didn't play it at the time too.
My memory has gone to shit so I can barely remember anything from it other than I enjoyed it and it had a really intense atmosphere.
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Post by quadfather on Oct 15, 2022 14:28:03 GMT
It's like a bunch of old farts only wanting to listen to old albums and watch old movies. Let's put all the talented artists and creators onto new ips and the gaming releases would be so much more exciting. What if it's a really fucking great movie or album? |
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Post by bichii on Oct 15, 2022 14:47:59 GMT
You mean re master the album or movie? I'm assuming that is a hell of a lot less work. Often I find remaster albums sound worse than the original cut and remember the terrible star wars ones.
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Post by quadfather on Oct 15, 2022 14:51:37 GMT
No, sorry, what I mean is, I'm viewing it as what's wrong with watching something old if it's great, translated to why they wouldn't also touch up something great like dead space
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Post by zagibu on Oct 15, 2022 15:04:30 GMT
There is nothing wrong with it, I just don't find it interesting. I would prefer a new story that looked like 2008 Dead Space over this remaster.
But yeah, if I hadn't played the original yet, I'd probably be interested.
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Post by quadfather on Oct 15, 2022 15:05:34 GMT
I guess I just want to go back, and I can go deluxe this time
But also yeah, if you're not interested, then there's not much point
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Post by Aunt Alison on Oct 15, 2022 16:16:27 GMT
Video game technology improves a lot faster than film technology or music (or at least it did - we are at the point of diminishing returns now), REmake 2 is basically a brand new game. Really depends on the remake
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Post by aubergine on Oct 15, 2022 16:49:07 GMT
There is nothing wrong with it, I just don't find it interesting. I would prefer a new story that looked like 2008 Dead Space over this remaster. But yeah, if I hadn't played the original yet, I'd probably be interested. Thing is, if this goes well, you likely ARE to get a new story in a continuation of the rebooted franchise. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Oct 15, 2022 17:04:43 GMT
It's also possible to do things with more modern tech that weren't possible originally, which is another good reason for remakes
The nurses in the original Silent Hill 2 were suppose to have film over their heads like condoms that would burst when killed but the PS2 couldn't handle it so it didn't make it in
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 15, 2022 17:21:47 GMT
There is nothing wrong with it, I just don't find it interesting. I would prefer a new story that looked like 2008 Dead Space over this remaster. But yeah, if I hadn't played the original yet, I'd probably be interested. Thing is, if this goes well, you likely ARE to get a new story in a continuation of the rebooted franchise. Exactly this is a test case to warrant a future installment. Another example would be the porting of VF5 to the Dragon Engine and it's subsequent re-release to see if there's any interest and lo and behold there was and Sega are making VF6. It's all well and good saying "make some new IP" but a lot of times people just don't buy it so unfortunately publishers will and are laying on the remakes because they want to see if an investment in dormant franchise is viable. |
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Post by sport✅ on Oct 15, 2022 17:34:07 GMT
I don't get the fuss. I could take DS and run it through Dall-E to get upscaled textures, models, animations in about 30 mins, 15 if you hit the Turbo button.
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Post by zagibu on Oct 15, 2022 18:07:21 GMT
It's all well and good saying "make some new IP" but a lot of times people just don't buy it
A new story does not mean you have to make a new IP. I've looked in the steam topsellers and didn't see a lot of remakes in there, if there are actually any in there at all.
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Post by wunty on Oct 15, 2022 18:33:26 GMT
Everyone shut up. We’re getting a shiny sexy version of Dead Space. You weird wankers.
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Post by retro74 on Oct 15, 2022 20:48:54 GMT
Some remakes are genuinely great in their own right. Resident Evil on the GameCube? Incredible game and better than the original
RE2 and RE3 both absolutely top tier too
Demon’s Souls I’m not quite as “all in” on, lost something in terms of atmosphere and general creepiness
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Post by sport✅ on Oct 15, 2022 20:53:55 GMT
Some remakes are genuinely great in their own right. Resident Evil on the GameCube? Incredible game and better than the original RE2 and RE3 both absolutely top tier too Demon’s Souls I’m not quite as “all in” on, lost something in terms of atmosphere and general creepiness At least the Demon's Souls protagonist doesn't talk. |
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Post by quadfather on Oct 15, 2022 21:03:15 GMT
Screams and shouts though
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 15, 2022 21:21:35 GMT
Some of you lot are in dire need of a paddling.
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Post by baihu1983 on Oct 16, 2022 18:48:11 GMT
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Post by Chopsen on Oct 16, 2022 21:46:56 GMT
The main thing I took away from that is is the original seems to have dated a lot better than I expected.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 16, 2022 22:19:48 GMT
It was always a good looking game from a design point of view.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2022 22:24:39 GMT
The sound was amazing too, really stood out at the time, and half of the fear was hearing some scary shit.
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Post by aubergine on Oct 16, 2022 23:37:38 GMT
I thought it had a timeless design at the time. Were it available on PS5 I’d no doubt play it again.
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Post by sport✅ on Oct 17, 2022 7:51:57 GMT
The sound was amazing too Don't go there, user Rum. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 17, 2022 22:19:01 GMT
Err, a walkthrough of the entirety of chapter 3 of this got out up on YouTube.
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Post by aubergine on Oct 17, 2022 23:45:07 GMT
Probably going to avoid more gameplay / spoilers from now on. Would like DF to talk about the released footage though.
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