Coronavirus

Sage has effectively been stood down since July because the government doesn't want it's advice.

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Implement ‘plan B’ winter measures now or risk NHS crisis, Johnson warned
Andrew Gregory
Ministers must urgently implement sweeping “plan B” winter measures or derail efforts to tackle the backlog of 5 million patients, the head of the NHS Confederation has warned as the UK recorded its highest daily Covid death toll since March.

Infections have been rising sharply since the start of October but the government is resisting introducing the extra restrictions set out in its winter plan including masks, vaccine passports and advice to work from home.

On Tuesday the UK reported 223 Covid deaths recorded within 28 days of a positive test - the highest for seven months – while the seven-day average for Covid cases stands at 44,145 a day. The UK now has one of the highest weekly rates of new reported cases in the world.

No 10 said it was keeping a “very close eye” on the situation. But Matthew Taylor, chief executive of the NHS Confederation which represents the healthcare system in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, said immediate action was required to prevent the NHS “stumbling into a crisis” where the elective care recovery would be jeopardised.

“We are right on the edge – and it is the middle of October,” said Taylor. “It would require an incredible amount of luck for us not to find ourselves in the midst of a profound crisis over the next three months.

“The government ought to not just announce that we’re moving to plan B, but it should be plan B plus. We should do what’s in plan B in terms of masks … working from home, but also we should try to achieve the kind of national mobilisation that we achieved in the first and second waves, where the public went out of their way to support and help the health service.”

From that last paragraph, what mobilisation of the public do they mean? I assume not clapping.

We will be given the home addresses of GPs, so we can blockade their houses and force them into the surgery, the lazy cowards.

Stay at home. Unless you need to support sandwich shops, Spearmint Rhino, the Red Lion on Whitehall, Tesco Express, the corner shop no fuck it just go to work again because commercial landlords like the right honourable gentlemen need money too.

"it's what the freedom loving British public (CRG) wanted"

Never forget the reason we delayed our first lockdown for so long is that the government thought the public wouldn't go along with it. They thought that given the ultimatum "lockdown for a while, make some sacrifices and save thousands of lives" would be met with "nahh you're alright mate".

In other words, they judged us by their own standards.

As it turns out there was incredibly high adherence and many incredible displays of community minded civic society with people pulling together, helping each other out.

Now, now everybody, back to the office.

I mentioned in the old place a few times that I went from working in a busy school to a hospital over the last year and avoided covid.

I was cautious, to a point but then grudgingly accepted I'd get covid and started going out - not loads, but gym, pub with mates, some gigs.

However, I managed to avoid covid and only know two people that have had it. Now I'm WFH my barriers are going up more. I was out last night but I definitely think I'll move to a few times a month rather than twice a week.

That's kind of how I feel. I was on a train into Manchester the other day and I was one of maybe 2 or 3 wearing a mask.

Admittedly it was a very quiet train at 5pm (which the rail people must hate) but I had forgotten just how common mask wearing was even two months ago. It definitely needs to be re-enforced

hedben no different here at Center Parcs (the best version of Butlins). We are more relaxed as we've all had it in the last month, but had that not been the case, my wife in particular would have been doing her pieces. There's a lot of hygiene theatre but little that will really make a difference from what I can see. Too busy for any distancing and v little mask wearing.

Are there stats available for how the booster programme is going? What age groups are we up to now? This is absolutely fucking ridiculous, I can't believe Boris and chums got so close to getting out of this and are now fucking it up. AFter killing 140k people with their ineptitude over the past 18 months, I honestly thought they would make sure they got the booster programme on track, even if they gave up on masks etc.

It may not be "cancelled" but travelling round 4 different Asian countries, seems a bit mental to me. Especially Thailand with 10K cases per day. Don't you still have quarantine in Malaysia anyway?

Nope, some of their neighbours may qualify but not them. 

Just catching up with friends who live in those places.  Malaysia is still under quarantine rules, but my friend who lives there says that they are saying by December they will have langkawi as a sandbox based on Phuket.  It won’t be a bar and party holiday, just I have friends who teach over there and will stay with them and catch up.

in terms of danger… I get my booster next week, and I would rather be in Thailand with 10k cases and be in an area that mandates masks than be in the UK with 50k cases and everyone huddling together in the cold.