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Post by DJCopa on Oct 18, 2021 10:52:43 GMT
Daughter (7) and I have it - PCR confirmed Friday. Wife (Teacher) and son (11) don't, so sod's law they'll get it when we leave isolation, no doubt.
Felt a bit shit for 1 day, but apart from that just loss of smell and taste (not fashion, but that's just my opinion!). Daughter is fine, just bored.
It's not going away any time soon, by looks of it - Testing centres are packed with kids.
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Post by dam on Oct 18, 2021 11:08:01 GMT
Just back from a week in Crete. We were slightly apprehensive and guilty about it, but have cancelled it so many times, my wife could really do with a break after being stuck in the house with me for 18 months for some reason...
Had to get commercial LFT tests for the kids (who have all had one shot of Pfizer) for entry to Greece. Checked at the airport. Our NHS Scotland apps were checked too.
100% masks at airport, on plane, on to hotel. Lots of hand gel. Masks in the hotel in all indoor areas unless eating. People would put them on while moving around getting food at the buffet. Mask wearing very common in general.
Every shop in Crete required a mask for entry. If we wanted to sit inside anywhere, proof of vaccination or recent LTF test required. Our apps scanned instantly, but the UK gov approved LTF proof did not have a QR code so was a bit harder. Also needed proof of vac status for entry to Knossos, which is all outdoors.
No one complained, every one just did it. The atmosphere in the UK against masks and "vaccine passports" is just ridiculous. Towards the end of the week, more English people arrived, and there was a noticable change in mask wearing. In my local supermarkets in Glasgow, it's still nearly 100%.
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Post by nazo on Oct 18, 2021 12:27:26 GMT
Colin Powell dead from COVID related complications apparently. He was fully vaccinated.
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Post by スコットランド on Oct 18, 2021 13:04:54 GMT
Just back from a week in Crete. We were slightly apprehensive and guilty about it, but have cancelled it so many times, my wife could really do with a break after being stuck in the house with me for 18 months for some reason... Had to get commercial LFT tests for the kids (who have all had one shot of Pfizer) for entry to Greece. Checked at the airport. Our NHS Scotland apps were checked too. 100% masks at airport, on plane, on to hotel. Lots of hand gel. Masks in the hotel in all indoor areas unless eating. People would put them on while moving around getting food at the buffet. Mask wearing very common in general. Every shop in Crete required a mask for entry. If we wanted to sit inside anywhere, proof of vaccination or recent LTF test required. Our apps scanned instantly, but the UK gov approved LTF proof did not have a QR code so was a bit harder. Also needed proof of vac status for entry to Knossos, which is all outdoors. No one complained, every one just did it. The atmosphere in the UK against masks and "vaccine passports" is just ridiculous. Towards the end of the week, more English people arrived, and there was a noticable change in mask wearing. In my local supermarkets in Glasgow, it's still nearly 100%. Seems quite insane what's going on in England, cases, deaths and illness much higher than in other European countries that have had no "freedom day" bollocks and yet they plough on regardless.... I've been in Spain and Italy this summer and was impressed by not just how high mask wearage was, but by how many people were using FFP2 masks and no fuss being made. Particularly comfortable being in Italy with the Greenpass checked everywhere. Here in Switzerland we have a green pass-like thing for restaurants, cinemas etc. but stubbornly low vaccination rates and weekly unapproved protests that riot police have to break up. I passed an utterly enormous queue for one of the testing sites on Saturday, stretched a couple of hundred metres up the road. So people would rather queue for an hour or two and pay to get tested every week to be able to go out on Saturday night rather than just get jabbed. Utterly insane! So pleased that despite starting late, Japanese vaccination has been an enormous success and flown past UK, USA, Switzerland etc. Let tourists back in please.
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Post by TheSaint on Oct 18, 2021 14:08:15 GMT
The thread I posted on the previous page specifically pointed out that cases are marginally higher in Scotland with mask rules than in England where a lot of people have given up on them. So definitely more to what is going wrong in the UK than just masks.
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Post by Youthist on Oct 18, 2021 14:37:11 GMT
The thread I posted on the previous page specifically pointed out that cases are marginally higher in Scotland with mask rules than in England where a lot of people have given up on them. So definitely more to what is going wrong in the UK than just masks. Deaths are currently very low as are admissions which are relatively flat for a whle now. So not sure there is something seen as wrong - more like this is BAU / an acceptable level. Pre-covid something like between 9000 and 110000 died on average (all deaths, all reasons) in the UK each week depending on the time of year, so lets call it 10k per week and call it 1,400 per day generally. Dying within 28 days of a covid test is average of 150 or so ish (all age groups)? The level of death being seen isnt large as it was pre-vaccine. The question is can NHS cope with the winter of covid + everything else.
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Post by reddevil93 on Oct 18, 2021 14:52:06 GMT
Colin Powell dead from COVID related complications apparently. He was fully vaccinated. He also had blood cancer which made him immunocompromised and most likely dampened the vaccine’s effectiveness. But the antivax nutters seem to be running with this ‘fully vaccinated’ news as some reason to not get vaccinated.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 18, 2021 14:57:00 GMT
Getting vaccinated will kill don't you know. Apparently.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2021 15:30:19 GMT
The anti vax scum will use anything to spread their bullshit, someone that has a form of cancer, they will use that happily use that
Noticing a lack of masks in the supermarket now in cambridge, wearing a mask is very much a minority thing but the thing that is worse these cunts don't keep their distance. This family with their plague kid, just pushed past me without evening saying excuse me
I really want to book a overseas holiday and happy to do what ever a country says eg wear a mask outside etc. Hoping for the Caribbean or far east
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 18, 2021 15:31:45 GMT
The thread I posted on the previous page specifically pointed out that cases are marginally higher in Scotland with mask rules than in England where a lot of people have given up on them. So definitely more to what is going wrong in the UK than just masks. Deaths are currently very low as are admissions which are relatively flat for a whle now. So not sure there is something seen as wrong - more like this is BAU / an acceptable level. Pre-covid something like between 9000 and 110000 died on average (all deaths, all reasons) in the UK each week depending on the time of year, so lets call it 10k per week and call it 1,400 per day generally. Dying within 28 days of a covid test is average of 150 or so ish (all age groups)? The level of death being seen isnt large as it was pre-vaccine. The question is can NHS cope with the winter of covid + everything else. It’s amazing that being on target for around 50k deaths a year after vaccines doesn’t make the public think maybe there’s something a bit wrong with the current approach. The number of deaths per cases has dropped off and that ratio is pretty good now, but the number of cases is far higher than it needs to be and there’s evidence vaccine effectiveness is about to start hitting us. Deaths look like they might be creeping back up again as well, cases are starting to rapidly increase as well just as people are going to offices more, the school transmission is moving to transmission at home and in the community. I don’t think a full lockdown should be needed but mask wearing and a bit of discouraging of mass indoor events might be a good idea for a while. And all of this is additional pressure on the NHS which already can’t cope with routine issues.
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Post by elstoof on Oct 18, 2021 15:36:16 GMT
Getting vaccinated will kill don't you know. Apparently. There’s those “statistics” doing the rounds on twitter, the total number of cases in vaccinated under 30s is higher than unvaccinated under 30s so obviously - the vaccine makes you more likely to get covid. Except it doesn’t take into account the fact that more people are vaccinated so the sample pool is far larger
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Post by simple on Oct 18, 2021 16:40:27 GMT
Colin Powell dead from COVID related complications apparently. He was fully vaccinated. He also had blood cancer which made him immunocompromised and most likely dampened the vaccine’s effectiveness. But the antivax nutters seem to be running with this ‘fully vaccinated’ news as some reason to not get vaccinated. 84 too which is way older than I would have guessed
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Post by Zomoniac on Oct 18, 2021 20:22:54 GMT
No one complained, every one just did it. The atmosphere in the UK against masks and "vaccine passports" is just ridiculous. Towards the end of the week, more English people arrived, and there was a noticable change in mask wearing. In my local supermarkets in Glasgow, it's still nearly 100%. We just got back from a fortnight in Paphos. TUI all inclusive job, normally not the kind of thing we’d do at all but being able to cancel for a refund up to the day before departure was a big deal in the circumstances. First week was lovely, hotel half empty, everyone fully respected the rules. Halfway through, a couple of days after the rule change announcement from the UK about not needing to take a test to come home, there was a very noticeable shift. Hotel filled up, average age went up 20 years, percentage of mask wearers went from 100 to 50, and number of tattoos increased dramatically. All culminated on our last night with about 40 people all aged 50-65 loudly singing Sweet Caroline and Vindaloo in the bar till 1am despite repeated requests to STFU from the manager. Had it been our first night I suspect I’d have had a breakdown and looked for the next flight back. Fortunately we had a lovely time before the Gammonpocalypse became a serious problem. They really are the absolute worst scum imaginable.
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Post by Frog on Oct 18, 2021 20:29:30 GMT
If we ever do an all inc we tend to look for somewhere that is mostly Germans. They are far more respectful in general I find and just nicer to be around on holiday. The place we stayed in Fuertaventura there was only one other English couple at the hotel, it was absolute bliss.
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Post by Blackmarsh63 on Oct 18, 2021 21:19:07 GMT
Nearly 50k cases and 10% rise in deaths week on week. Not looking good is it ?
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Post by simple on Oct 18, 2021 21:54:43 GMT
I think the official plan now is that if we stop talking about it then we can all just move on with our lives and get back to normal
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Post by Sarfrin on Oct 19, 2021 11:51:00 GMT
Apart from the ones who die or are long term affected, but that's only people.
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Post by robthehermit on Oct 19, 2021 11:52:44 GMT
I think the official plan now is that if we stop talking about it then we can all just move on with our lives and get back to normal That works for me.
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Post by richardiox on Oct 19, 2021 12:41:14 GMT
It's absolutely incredible the radio silence from Sajid Javid considering we are still very much "in it", hospital backlogs just getting longer, 1000 deaths a week, highest case rates in Europe, booster rollout way behind schedule, 50k wrongly reported PCR results from that dodgy private lab.
Not to mention I heard this week that local schools have more kids off for Covid reasons than at anytime previously - including when we had the bubble system. Tory logic for removing bubbles: "too many kids were missing school"...! It's decision making from the perspective of "if I close my eyes, it goes away". Truly the kings of wishful thinking in terms of using the least effort and least effective ways of fixing systemic problems.
Heard about a school with over 50% kids off in two year groups but DFE won't let them move to remote working. Schools still legally have to accommodate siblings of Covid positive cases. Household with active infection>share a space all week with children from 30 other households. Fucking nuts mate.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 15:23:55 GMT
All culminated on our last night with about 40 people all aged 50-65 loudly singing Sweet Caroline and Vindaloo in the bar till 1am despite repeated requests to STFU from the manager. Had it been our first night I suspect I’d have had a breakdown and looked for the next flight back. Fortunately we had a lovely time before the Gammonpocalypse became a serious problem. They really are the absolute worst scum imaginable. Sounds like hell, thats why I never liked going to spain/Portugal etc that attracts the Gammonpocalypse, thick loud mouth cunts who ruin holidays for everyone else. Thats why I always go further away as this filth does not tend to go there. Seen Australians gammons in Bali and thailand but its never as bad as eg spain/greece etc
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Post by Rich on Oct 19, 2021 15:36:24 GMT
It's absolutely incredible the radio silence from Sajid Javid considering we are still very much "in it"... Err, covid ended when Boris beat it over the summer. We're free now, so move on.
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Post by Rich on Oct 19, 2021 15:38:00 GMT
Seriously though, the government strategy genuinely appears to be 'pretend its gone away.'
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 15:41:02 GMT
223 dead today and we're only just starting to hit the cold weather. I don't think this is going to go well.
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 19, 2021 15:42:02 GMT
As long as they don’t dare tell me to wear a mask then it’s all ok.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Oct 19, 2021 15:44:52 GMT
It's madness.
I do wonder if we'll get to a point where they have to lockdown again, and no doubt they'll try to point the finger at the plebs.
Either that or they'll just pretend everything is fine as we drop like flies.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 15:55:05 GMT
Will the plebs accept another lockdown or wearing masks again? I doubt it
I think the tories will just carry on, does not matter if you get ill or any old people die as "its all about the tories friends and donors"
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Post by TheSaint on Oct 19, 2021 16:06:12 GMT
Europe shows that we don't need another lockdown and life can go on pretty much as normal if we apply some common sense.
Unfortunately that hasn't been our strongpoint recently.
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Post by Rich on Oct 19, 2021 16:07:59 GMT
It's madness. I do wonder if we'll get to a point where they have to lockdown again, and no doubt they'll try to point the finger at the plebs. Either that or they'll just pretend everything is fine as we drop like flies. "No one could have predicted..."
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Post by Youthist on Oct 19, 2021 17:12:48 GMT
Bringing back some basic social regulations would be the right thing (seems like a no brainier) to do over the winter but keep all hospitality and retail facilities fully open. And get a fucking move on with the booster program as that will get ugly if the timing is fucked of that thing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 17:16:48 GMT
Bring back compulsory mask wearing feels like such a tap in, so that means the Tories won't do it.
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