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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jun 29, 2022 11:10:37 GMT
Thanks - looks like the first part of that page is guidance for anyone still testing (including 5 days etc), and the second part of the page is advice for anyone with symptoms but not testing (which should be most of the general population now).
Not very clear the way it's presented - I'll pass that on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 13:18:26 GMT
So the guidance for me, if an LFT is considered a 'test' and it doesn't specifically mean a PCR, is that I shouldn't be out until Saturday (I tested on Sunday), but avoid anyone I know to be vulnerable for another five days. That starts from the day after the test.
If I hadn't tested, I'd be free to go and spread it from probably tomorrow as I am anticipating feeling mostly back to normal then on current trajectory. If I was still infectious in those extra two days I could be spreading it.
It de-incentivizes testing for people driven by their own desires, or in the case of people who may struggle financially or with child care et, needs doesn't it. Combined with now charging for tests which we've struggled to replace this week; nowhere has any in near us.
A difficult balancing act for sure with reduced severity and I've benefitted from increased freedom in the past couple of months for sure, but I just can't help worrying about those damn mutations if it's just left to burn through everyone mostly unchecked.
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Post by TheSaint on Jun 29, 2022 14:42:10 GMT
So the guidance for me, if an LFT is considered a 'test' and it doesn't specifically mean a PCR, is that I shouldn't be out until Saturday (I tested on Sunday), but avoid anyone I know to be vulnerable for another five days. That starts from the day after the test. If I hadn't tested, I'd be free to go and spread it from probably tomorrow as I am anticipating feeling mostly back to normal then on current trajectory. If I was still infectious in those extra two days I could be spreading it. It de-incentivizes testing for people driven by their own desires, or in the case of people who may struggle financially or with child care et, needs doesn't it. Combined with now charging for tests which we've struggled to replace this week; nowhere has any in near us. A difficult balancing act for sure with reduced severity and I've benefitted from increased freedom in the past couple of months for sure, but I just can't help worrying about those damn mutations if it's just left to burn through everyone mostly unchecked. I wouldn't worry too much. At least you know you could be spreading it and can take extra precautions. Thousands of asymptomatic people are already out and about spreading it so you aren't going to be making much of a difference. Once the actual symptoms subside there isn't much point in just sitting around inside. IMO anyway. |
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Post by Duffman5 on Jun 30, 2022 18:11:25 GMT
So after skilfully and fortuitously I have remained Covid free...until yesterday, and I feel feckin awful. The worst Flu I have ever had. Every symptom you can imagine (Southern softy) except thankfully not breathing issues. Hopefully it will not last too long.
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Post by Vortex on Jun 30, 2022 18:19:01 GMT
All the best for your recovery Duff.
It's circling ominously round our work, so i do wonder if it's just a matter of time for me too.
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Post by deebs on Jun 30, 2022 20:38:45 GMT
I've had 3 different strains of covid now. I want to take them to a pokeyman gym and level them up a bit.
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Post by スコットランド on Jun 30, 2022 20:43:57 GMT
So after skilfully and fortuitously I have remained Covid free...until yesterday, and I feel feckin awful. The worst Flu I have ever had. Every symptom you can imagine (Southern softy) except thankfully not breathing issues. Hopefully it will not last too long. Gute Besserung duffers. |
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Post by Frog on Jun 30, 2022 20:46:28 GMT
Get well soon Duffer, hopefully the next few days get a bit easier
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Post by LockeTribal on Jul 1, 2022 10:25:43 GMT
Think I've finally succumbed too.
Wife tested positive on Tuesday/Wednesday and has the full gamut - coughing, sore throat, loss of smell, fever. She's had the wee one (who's mostly grand and FULL of energy) home from summer club since she tested so not getting much in the way of rest. I've tested negative the last couple of days and have been going in to work (masked up). Lasted an hour and 45 minutes in the office today before throwing in the towel. Temperature, beginnings of a sore throat, dodgy stomach and lightheaded did for me.
Back home and in the bed now for a while before swapping out with the wife to keep an eye on our wee girl.
Going to be a FUN weekend!
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Post by Reviewer on Jul 1, 2022 10:30:27 GMT
I’ve definitely had it once, two other times I had something with similar symptoms but it gave negative tests so no idea what happened there. I only self quarantined because the old relatives were visiting very soon after.
Since omicron and all restrictions going I’ve not taken any precautions at all. I don’t see the point at this stage. Admittedly I’m not on crowded trains and I WFH nearly all the time so the risk is fairly low anyway apart from the kids being disease carriers.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jul 2, 2022 4:15:59 GMT
From outside the uk, it's been interesting to watch the Jubilee, Glastonbury, Wimbleton etc.. and the massive crowds of maskless people. Especially considering everyone here is still largely soldiering on with masks in 38 degree heat. But we had been wondering if there'd be a jump in infections after things like the jubilee. The article doesn't mention things like that as a factor, but www.bbc.com/news/health-62009230 |
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Post by スコットランド on Jul 2, 2022 4:55:09 GMT
From outside the uk, it's been interesting to watch the Jubilee, Glastonbury, Wimbleton etc.. and the massive crowds of maskless people. Especially considering everyone here is still largely soldiering on with masks in 38 degree heat. But we had been wondering if there'd be a jump in infections after things like the jubilee. The article doesn't mention things like that as a factor, but www.bbc.com/news/health-62009230All the countries which have ditched all restrictions have soaring rates sadly. Having said that, unless in a crowd there is no need whatsoever to wear masks outdoors so the Japanese public aren’t being the smartest there. |
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Post by Duffman5 on Jul 2, 2022 5:17:14 GMT
How are my covid brethren? I'm on day 3 (symptoms anyway) and still feel shite! Keep well 👊
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jul 2, 2022 6:14:09 GMT
All the countries which have ditched all restrictions have soaring rates sadly. Having said that, unless in a crowd there is no need whatsoever to wear masks outdoors so the Japanese public aren’t being the smartest there. To be fair, in a world first, the Japanese Government are actually being sensible and *are* recommending that people take off their masks when outside and when not talking to someone. But the public are ridiculously cautious as always and are mostly continuing to wear masks. My kids' class teacher told the kids they could take off their masks on Friday (what with it being 38 degrees), but apparently many of the kids didn't want to and continued wearing them.  |
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Post by Sarfrin on Jul 2, 2022 7:33:32 GMT
From outside the uk, it's been interesting to watch the Jubilee, Glastonbury, Wimbleton etc.. and the massive crowds of maskless people. Especially considering everyone here is still largely soldiering on with masks in 38 degree heat. But we had been wondering if there'd be a jump in infections after things like the jubilee. The article doesn't mention things like that as a factor, but www.bbc.com/news/health-62009230 Good thing the vaccination programme is ramping up again and the NHS is being given funding to cope. Oh. Crap. |
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Post by dfunked on Jul 2, 2022 7:37:25 GMT
Yeah, it's going to be a fun winter I would imagine. Of course we could've nipped it in the bud by acting sensible, but you can't spell freedom with sensible.
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Post by スコットランド on Jul 2, 2022 7:44:49 GMT
At least the Omicron Vaccine from Moderna *should* arrive in August, most people won't get it though.
I'll be glad to.
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Post by nazo on Jul 2, 2022 8:04:09 GMT
Bah Covid has breached our walls too for the first time, wife was feeling rough last night and tested positive this morning. She's always super careful with masks too.
Weekend ruined, bah!
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Post by スコットランド on Jul 2, 2022 8:39:55 GMT
www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/01/us-covid-surge-cases-rate?fbclid=IwAR180Zy_RaLlmbTHT5yHkIGwwAUS58I2JTSoFRFJDGelFAnuLHkFgEjco9QHospitalization and death are also not the only negative outcomes of cases. “The long Covid threat is going to be something that’s with us for a while, even after hospitalizations and deaths become less of an issue,” Nash said. Long Covid can occur in an estimated 10 to 30% of cases, and each infection – and reinfection – seems to be “a roll of the dice” for developing long-term health issues, he said. “It’s very poorly understood, in my view, given how important a public health issue it could be. But it is absolutely high on the list of reasons to avoid Covid infection right now. It’s tragic that this is not something that is discussed as a reason to prevent the impact of a surge.” Vaccines protect against long Covid by about 15%, new research suggests, underscoring the need for other precautions to prevent infections. “This idea that we need to return to normal and that’s the most important thing, rather than just actually using mitigation measures to save lives – it’s actually not that hard, and if it were normalized, we could do it,” Jirmanus said. “To just decide that it’s perfectly fine for everyone to be infected three to four times a year in the future with a new virus whose effects we don’t fully understand is a huge, huge gamble,” she continued. “We just don’t know what Covid could lead to in the future… We’re playing with fire.” Yep, letting it rip seems like a wonderful idea.
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Post by Reviewer on Jul 2, 2022 8:55:27 GMT
At this stage it seems a better plan than the alternatives. Health isn’t the only consideration and currently the percentage that suffer a serious impact is low.
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Post by Reviewer on Jul 2, 2022 9:03:26 GMT
Alternatives include spending time looking up articles about the risks, what experts are saying but no one is doing, getting covid (and it usually being uncomfortable and an inconvenience), arguing pointlessly on the internet about restrictions we should have but won’t, feeling superior to those that are going about their lives normally instead of sitting inside or running from anyone that gets within 20 metres.
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Post by スコットランド on Jul 2, 2022 9:31:45 GMT
Alternatives include spending time looking up articles about the risks, what experts are saying but no one is doing, getting covid (and it usually being uncomfortable and an inconvenience), arguing pointlessly on the internet about restrictions we should have but won’t, feeling superior to those that are going about their lives normally instead of sat inside or running from anyone that gets within 20 metres. Ah the old "the only options are a) lick every door handle or b) be a hermit" logic. Always a winner! |
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Post by Reviewer on Jul 2, 2022 9:36:03 GMT
If licking door handles is what you would normally do then I think you’ve got bigger problems anyway.
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Post by Youthist on Jul 2, 2022 10:00:13 GMT
Wow people are still responding to him in this thread
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2022 10:02:18 GMT
wow, you're still around after your daddy left!
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Post by Dougs on Jul 2, 2022 10:13:54 GMT
At least the Omicron Vaccine from Moderna *should* arrive in August, most people won't get it though. I'll be glad to. Most people will if offered. They'll see it as a trade off worth making. But given the severity of this strain, it may not be necessary other than for the vulnerable. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2022 10:39:46 GMT
wow, you're still around after your daddy left! Ooh you showed him. It's starting to go around my daughters nursery now. Seems a matter of time before she gets it. Somehow she hadn't had it before and has been for 3 negative tests during the height of it. |
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Post by スコットランド on Jul 2, 2022 10:39:50 GMT
At least the Omicron Vaccine from Moderna *should* arrive in August, most people won't get it though. I'll be glad to. Most people will if offered. They'll see it as a trade off worth making. But given the severity of this strain, it may not be necessary other than for the vulnerable. I was thinking of Switzerland where few people have gotten a booster. People are fucking morons here so ymmv |
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Post by Sarfrin on Jul 2, 2022 12:11:29 GMT
At this stage it seems a better plan than the alternatives. Health isn’t the only consideration and currently the percentage that suffer a serious impact is low. 10% of cases for an infection that petite get multiple times a year isn't low. |
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jul 2, 2022 12:51:43 GMT
Something to keep an eye out for is it's known that some LFDs are less sensitive to the new variants, so may not pick up positive cases.
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