スコットランド
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 13, 2022 10:49:40 GMT
And again, it's not just about death.
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 13, 2022 10:57:25 GMT
‘Life goes on’ isn’t a callous, shrug-your-shoulders thing. It’s an underlying fact. What's the point in saying it then? Life has never stopped.
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Post by Leolian'sBro on Mar 13, 2022 10:59:18 GMT
Because you are implying it doesn’t.
Not to mention all the judgemental strawman you’ve decided to attach to the phrase.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 13, 2022 10:59:23 GMT
You’re conflating the governments callousness/incompetence with a wider societal apathy. This government is only capable of binary ‘on/off’ actions and we have need a far more granular response. Of course we need the things you’ve said. We should have measures for the vulnerable now just like we should have had measures for the not-vulnerable during he harsh lockdowns.
But we are dealing with the cards we are dealt and we are just getting on with it. What else can everyone do?
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Post by Chopsen on Mar 13, 2022 11:01:47 GMT
Sure but listing every single complication is labourious and I'd be concerned that lumping in death with all the other complications night make me seem "callous"
At what level of risk would you be happy to go back to "normal" then? There is never going to be zero risk. Your arbitrary level is lower than other people's arbitrary level.
Extensive public works to reduce likelyhood of transmission of transmissible illnesses is of course reasonable. That's why we have public sanitation, sewage system. Since COVID you must have clocked all the perspex screens everywhere and hang washing points.
You seem to be making out that nobody's considering it at all. Like *you* said ffs, it's not just black and white between licking doornobs and hiding in isolation for the rest of your life.
You're obviously scared. I think we've all struggled with that over the last 2 years and incrementally people are coming to terms with a level of perceived risk that they are comfortable with.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2022 11:16:30 GMT
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 13, 2022 11:24:05 GMT
I mean... what would you suggest? There's a multitude of illnesses out there that kills the frail and elderly that would simply be shrugged off by people our age. That's practically the medical definition of frailty. For example, a urinary tract infection can be fatal to to an frail person but just going to cause a bit of stinging when you have have to piss to young healthy person. So what we going to do? Make more of an effort as a society to protect vulnerable people like that until the disease isn't as dangerous rather than the abandoning of all measures. And again, as you know better than anyone, it's not just killing elderly, I posted earlier that a healthy young mate of mine gets breathless going up stairs and can't smell or taste, another super-fit mate at work has heart and lung issues and exhaustion, 18 months afterwards. What should society as a whole be doing to protect those vulnerable people, bearing in mind it would need a large percentage of the population to go along with any rules when the virus is unlikely to have a major effect on themselves?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2022 11:34:00 GMT
There's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it. Any measures are a delaying tactic at best. So again what is the point of delaying it as the vaccine becomes less and less effective.
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 13, 2022 11:53:55 GMT
Exactly, especially while we have this milder variant around. If it was killing a higher number then that would be different.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2022 11:57:49 GMT
Oh Jesus don't use the m word.
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Post by elstoof on Mar 13, 2022 11:57:52 GMT
Crawl into a dark cave and wait there until science has a cure for every illness that humanity has ever faced
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Post by cubby on Mar 13, 2022 12:01:18 GMT
*dies of cave mould*
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Post by dogbot on Mar 13, 2022 12:03:14 GMT
Crawl into a dark cave and wait there until science has a cure for every illness that humanity has ever faced Can you write me a note for work, pls?
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Post by TheSaint on Mar 13, 2022 12:24:40 GMT
It’s a shame this hasn’t resulted in a massive push for improved mechanical ventilation in all public spaces like previous health outbreaks did for things like clean water and sewage systems.
That could have been a real long lasting benefit to society to help reduce the spread of all respiratory issues, not just covid.
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 13, 2022 12:49:04 GMT
It’s a shame this hasn’t resulted in a massive push for improved mechanical ventilation in all public spaces like previous health outbreaks did for things like clean water and sewage systems. That could have been a real long lasting benefit to society to help reduce the spread of all respiratory issues, not just covid. Yep, completely agree but there's "nothing you can do" apparently except let it rip. Epidemiologists like this clearly don't know what they're talking about.
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Post by Leolian'sBro on Mar 13, 2022 12:51:04 GMT
I heard you can catch coronavirus from too much time spent on forums.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2022 12:56:06 GMT
Wooooo I'm coming to get you if keep posting here woooooo
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 13, 2022 12:56:32 GMT
Ventilation in most public spaces is already very good. It’s the smaller enclosed spaces that’s the bigger issue.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 13, 2022 13:41:56 GMT
Cases of covid arguments are up again
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Post by Sarfrin on Mar 13, 2022 13:51:26 GMT
Ventilation in most public spaces is already very good. It’s the smaller enclosed spaces that’s the bigger issue. I guess that depends what you mean by public spaces. It's certainly not the case in schools.
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Post by porkorossi on Mar 13, 2022 14:02:35 GMT
Ecosse, I’m guessing you’re aware that 40% of us have no symptoms with Covid19? You appear convinced you’ve never had it!
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Post by Chopsen on Mar 13, 2022 14:04:32 GMT
It’s a shame this hasn’t resulted in a massive push for improved mechanical ventilation in all public spaces like previous health outbreaks did for things like clean water and sewage systems. That could have been a real long lasting benefit to society to help reduce the spread of all respiratory issues, not just covid. Yep, completely agree but there's "nothing you can do" apparently except let it rip. Epidemiologists like this clearly don't know what they're talking about. Nobody said we shouldn't do this kind of stuff you dozy plank.
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Post by 111 on Mar 13, 2022 14:07:48 GMT
You must have it wrong , sounds like fake news as it’s all sunny uplands now, Covid is over, have you not been reading the thread? Ah good we're back to ecosse using a sardonic tone to faux-mimic things no-one has actually said.
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Post by 111 on Mar 13, 2022 14:08:08 GMT
WHY HAVEN'T YOU ALL INSTALLED BETTER VENTILATION IN PUBLIC TRANSPORT. WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU. ECOSSE HAS. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE.
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Post by Chopsen on Mar 13, 2022 14:12:50 GMT
A casual Google would reveal that the imapct of COVID on urban development and building design is very much a thing that has and is happening.
But never mind that. Let's all get back to the idea that each of us personally hates elderly people and actively want them all to get COVID and die.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2022 14:19:28 GMT
I don't know how we still fall for his shtick after all these years.
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スコットランド
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 13, 2022 14:23:36 GMT
A casual Google would reveal that the imapct of COVID on urban development and building design is very much a thing that has and is happening. But never mind that. Let's all get back to the idea that each of us personally hates elderly people and actively want them all to get COVID and die. Did I say that? Spoiler : Nope.
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Post by Leolian'sBro on Mar 13, 2022 14:27:23 GMT
Not doing away with mask wearing in indoor public spaces, significantly improve ventilation in buildings and transport, make an effort to prepare for future variants/viruses. Instll air purifiers on busses, stuff like they're doing in parts of Asia. Basically not hand-waving everything away and saying "Job done, freedom day, life goes on, have to live with it, no measures whatsoever required". Yes, you did say that.
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 13, 2022 14:28:54 GMT
Not doing away with mask wearing in indoor public spaces, significantly improve ventilation in buildings and transport, make an effort to prepare for future variants/viruses. Instll air purifiers on busses, stuff like they're doing in parts of Asia. Basically not hand-waving everything away and saying "Job done, freedom day, life goes on, have to live with it, no measures whatsoever required". Yes, you did say that. So the policies of governments are the feelings of every person? Wow, didn’t know that one.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 13, 2022 14:29:31 GMT
I don't know how we still fall for his shtick after all these years. I think it's just S&M play at this point
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