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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 10:32:28 GMT
So more "take it easy after recovering from an illness" than excercise can cause long covid.
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Post by cubby on Feb 9, 2022 10:34:26 GMT
I guess it depends how bad you got it.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Feb 9, 2022 11:30:39 GMT
So more "take it easy after recovering from an illness" than excercise can cause long covid. Yes or overdoing it will lead to symptoms lasting longer . Longer...covid. Maybe I misused the term Long Covid.
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Post by puddleduck on Feb 9, 2022 11:46:05 GMT
Anecdotally my wife kept trying to get back to her workout routines and then being completely laid low for ages with her Long Covid. Though it's hard to say exercising caused it, more that she had Long Covid and exercising made her symptoms worse. Ultimately it took her 11 months to fully get over the impact.
One thing that did happen was she felt fine after a couple of weeks, tried to do a weights workout and damaged herself with what was diagnosed as costrochonditis. This is most likely the damage covid had caused her internally then being exaggerated.
Basically, be careful after covid and don't rush yourself. Your body is most likely going to need time to heal. Recovery from anything is not a binary thing where you're either 0% or 100%. There's a whole spectrum in between those and rebalancing mentally to where you are and then recognising the progress from there back to 100% is really important. But it is challenging to focus on that rather than just being frustrated you're not as fit as you were pre recovery.
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Post by Dougs on Feb 9, 2022 12:21:49 GMT
All Covid restrictions to end by the end of Feb. Back to work, peons.
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Post by dfunked on Feb 9, 2022 12:25:26 GMT
Seems reasonable and not at all like a desperate PM trying to claw on to his position.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 12:29:08 GMT
Are there even any covid restrictions active now?
But with numbers numbers and hospitalisations continuing to fall with pretty much no restrictions there really isn't much point in keeping whatever remains.
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Post by Dougs on Feb 9, 2022 12:33:30 GMT
Legal duty to isolate remains. If I had confidence that employers would support those that test positive, I wouldn't be so worried. But we know the majority won't and even more people will be forced to go to work when unwell.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Feb 9, 2022 13:13:48 GMT
Legal duty to isolate remains. If I had confidence that employers would support those that test positive, I wouldn't be so worried. But we know the majority won't and even more people will be forced to go to work when unwell. Logically employers should want to prevent covid spreading through their office. It will lead to more people being off sick. However their are plenty of arsehole employers out there.
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Post by Whizzo on Feb 9, 2022 13:14:38 GMT
I do hope the virus doesn't mutate again when the UK gives up bothering with it.
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Post by Dougs on Feb 9, 2022 13:16:32 GMT
Very rarely seen that approach with the common cold, flu and other bugs. Was hoping that this would be one takeaway from the whole pandemic.
Even with the lag, 250-300 people a day are still dying. Seems an awful lot.
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Post by elstoof on Feb 9, 2022 13:16:53 GMT
Too late, it’s already mutated several million times this week
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Post by geefe on Feb 9, 2022 13:18:07 GMT
My hope for this was that people would take illness more seriously and recognise that 1-2 days off work for a staff member prevents spreading and lost days all over the shop.
But they won't.
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Post by elstoof on Feb 9, 2022 13:18:51 GMT
We need to show the world that we’re open for business, just shove a Pret ginger shot and boiled egg and spinach pot down your neck and power through
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Feb 9, 2022 13:30:34 GMT
Yep, I didn't have hope for much else from all this other than perhaps businesses realising that it might be worth telling the cunt that comes in spluttering all over their desk to just take a day or two off until they are no longer a walking germ factory. But everything I've seen and heard suggests that was an unrealistic bar to set for society.
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Post by rockavitch on Feb 9, 2022 16:23:03 GMT
COVID in NI in my experience hasn't been a thing for a while, yes people are still getting ill and there's deaths but I can't remember the last time I checked the numbers or personally even heard anyone speak about it. Still pop mask on for public transport, shops and work but it's done now out of reflex without even thinking about it. It's the "new normal" and if my stepdad wasn't ill/dying I wouldn't be taking a lft weekly before visiting and would no doubt forget COVID existed most of the time.
I've had it, I'm triple jabbed and mask up, really not much more I can do about it so just got to crack on now and hope for the best.
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Post by Reviewer on Feb 9, 2022 19:48:21 GMT
Very rarely seen that approach with the common cold, flu and other bugs. Was hoping that this would be one takeaway from the whole pandemic. Even with the lag, 250-300 people a day are still dying. Seems an awful lot. I assume they’re thinking we’re seeing that now but so many people are getting it, immunity is increasing as a result and the dying are the weaker/more susceptible people so numbers should drop off. A good government would probably try to keep their people alive rather that being happy to kill off a couple of hundred thousand. This will end up where people go into work when they’re sick with it, the only positive is a few less will be in from WFH/ hybrid working but I don’t really fancy getting this every few months really.
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Post by Youthist on Feb 9, 2022 20:40:32 GMT
While 250 to 300 are dying within 28 days of a positive test, approx 1200 die per day in the uk of something. I think higher in winter too. I guess the question is how many from that 250 to 300 wouldn’t have died without Covid being part of the picture, is a truer reflection on how many are dying every day directly because Covid exists in the world.
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Post by 111 on Feb 9, 2022 22:38:01 GMT
It's of at least some relevance that in the time (since 1 Dec) that the Omicron wave has done this (top graph) to cases, this (bottom graph) is what has been happening to number of people on ventilation in hospital.
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Post by technoish on Feb 9, 2022 22:39:51 GMT
It's all good until the last booster runs out.
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Post by richardiox on Feb 9, 2022 22:55:32 GMT
Although interestingly, mechanical ventilations have gone down even whilst deaths have been going up. The clinical presentation of Omicron is clearly quite different and the pre Omicron link of ICU admissions to deaths seems broken. Even read something that a sizeable proportion of those on ventilation are Delta cases from December that are obviously still in a really bad way.
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Post by Youthist on Feb 9, 2022 23:03:29 GMT
Surely if deaths have gone up it could be because a lot more people have got the infection at any point in time now, so more people dying because it is from a much larger pool of people.
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Post by 111 on Feb 9, 2022 23:17:37 GMT
I've not seen any data on age of deaths over different time periods so this is entirely speculative, but if for instance a lot of the deaths in the Omicron wave were very elderly and frail people who would not have lasted an awful lot longer even if covid didn't exist, then these are people that you may well not mechanically ventilate.
And I think we can agree that idle speculation based on a shallow understanding of selected data is something we could all do with more of.
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Post by 111 on Feb 9, 2022 23:26:52 GMT
I say Omicron wave - the population being so heavily vaccinated during this wave is a much bigger differentiator than the differences between variants.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2022 7:09:47 GMT
It's all good until the last booster runs out. Which is why you want it in general circulation by then.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Feb 10, 2022 8:33:25 GMT
The problem i'm having is, is that if we had a competent government who weren't lying and gas-lighting the nation every five minutes, and have been increasingly pandering the UK Q types, I'd have more confidence that removing restrictions was a sound idea.
But as it stands, it's really hard to shake the impression that the easing of restrictions are being pushed through in an attempt to distract from and lessen the impact of the current scandal.
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Post by Tomo on Feb 10, 2022 8:42:00 GMT
Ugh, that run last night was a massive mistake, my breathing's been fucked since. Feel bloody awful today. Not sure I'll be able to get the fitness back for the half marathon next month. Was considering a marathon in May, though will be way behind in the training for that now... Tomo, how did your 2nd post covid run go? My second one was better but not great. Slow still but at least I didn't feel spent after 500m.
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Post by nexus6 on Feb 10, 2022 12:13:46 GMT
OH NO THE COVID HAS GONE AND GOT PRINCE CHARLIE! one parasite living off the other
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Post by Youthist on Feb 10, 2022 12:47:32 GMT
The problem in having is, is that if we had a competent government who weren't lying and gas-lighting the nation every five minutes, and have been increasingly pandering the UK Q types, I'd have more confidence that removing restrictions was a sound idea. But as it stands, it's really hard to shake the impression that the easing of restrictions are being pushed through in an attempt to distract from and lessen the impact of the current scandal. Yep. Currently he is also trying to stoke up a war in order to distract. What a cunt.
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Post by 111 on Feb 10, 2022 13:07:07 GMT
So it looks like the period since Christmas, i.e. the period when covid-related deaths has risen, the number of people dying from anything has been below the five-year average, which would lend further credence to the idea that while people have been dying from covid, a lot of those may be people that were not going to make it through the winter whether covid was around to be thing that finished them or not.
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