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Post by Youthist on Jan 5, 2022 16:41:08 GMT
Would be nice of Djokeovic was sent back from Oz. Won’t happen though.
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Post by Youthist on Jan 5, 2022 16:43:11 GMT
They don’t stop working, and I’ve never suggested that “do away with masks” is the right thing to do, but it’s still just a finger in the dam against the current spread, even less so with basic cloth and paper masks which are still the most common in use. If measures won't slow down the spread, explain this graph where the measures in England are completely different from the other home nations. Broadly the same reasons London would look a lot different on this graph to the rest of the cities in the UK over the last month, probably. Or do you already know the answer ?
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Post by 😎 on Jan 5, 2022 16:43:41 GMT
I think that’s the other thing about quarantining with Omicron and why that particular measure may not be useful anymore is that tons of people are going to be asymptomatic or have symptoms too mild to distinguish, or get a negative LFT and go “well, I’m fine I guess”. It can be so mild that I’ve heard from people who’s only symptom was a bit of a headache for a day.
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Post by Psychotext on Jan 5, 2022 17:19:28 GMT
Also promising signs that you're less likely to get any of the weird shit happening like loss of taste with Omicron, symptoms are a lot more like normal cold like coronavirus. Hopefully that transfers over to long covid too. Whitty spoke the other day on this and said that from their data it appeared that severity had very little link to incidence of long COVID (or post COVID syndrome, whatever). That said, it could very well be that Omicron just doesn't result in it happening to as many people. It's waaaay too early to tell (at least 8 weeks too early for most).
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Post by Lukus on Jan 5, 2022 17:19:36 GMT
While I'm here, Post-COVID-19 syndrome (fuck you "Long COVID" and the twitter you rode in on: that's a stupid term that makes you sound stupid) and raised inflammatory markers: eglj.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s43066-021-00144-1/tables/2A mean CRP of 15.42 is weak sauce for "chronic inflammation". I worked at a hospital that had 15 as the cut-off for being detectable by their lab. The range also goes from 4.5 to 138ish, which I think suggest the mean is being skewed massively. Wasn't that kind of one of the mysteries of it though? - that all regular tests and markers would come back as normal in people reporting symptoms. BBC News - Long Covid: 'I have to choose between walking and talking' www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-59584146I don't know if her experience is representative of others, but reduced lung function and blood clots sounds really shite.
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Post by Psychotext on Jan 5, 2022 17:22:52 GMT
While I'm here, Post-COVID-19 syndrome (fuck you "Long COVID" and the twitter you rode in on: that's a stupid term that makes you sound stupid) and raised inflammatory markers: eglj.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s43066-021-00144-1/tables/2A mean CRP of 15.42 is weak sauce for "chronic inflammation". I worked at a hospital that had 15 as the cut-off for being detectable by their lab. The range also goes from 4.5 to 138ish, which I think suggest the mean is being skewed massively. Any way to get tested on this relatively quickly? I've been suffering horrifically with inflammation lately, to the point where my face looks like its been stung by bees and taking off my socks at the end of the day leaves me with 3cm diameter difference in the skin above / below the cuff.
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Post by Chopsen on Jan 5, 2022 17:30:13 GMT
I'd suggest
1. Not seeking medical advice on the internet
2. Seek professional advice about what the symptoms you have are in terms of how they are impacting you
3. Don't pre judge it by discussing it in terms of "inflammation" or any other medical term that has a specific and technical meaning
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Post by Psychotext on Jan 5, 2022 17:31:29 GMT
I'd suggest 1. Not seeking medical advice on the internet 2. Seek professional advice about what the symptoms you have are in terms of how they are impacting you 3. Don't pre judge it by discussing it in terms of "inflammation" or any other medical term that has a specific and technical meaning Sure, but I'm trying not to waste doctors time given they've already being worked into the ground right now. I'll just leave it.
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Post by stuz359 on Jan 5, 2022 17:32:11 GMT
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Post by Chopsen on Jan 5, 2022 17:32:33 GMT
Oh and
5. Don't discount the psychological impact of a physical illness, or underestimate how ongoing psychosocial factors can cause real physical symptoms.
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Post by 111 on Jan 5, 2022 17:39:11 GMT
"I've been suffering horrifically - my face looks like its been stung by bees." Doctor: Go see a doctor...? "I'll just leave it."
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Post by elstoof on Jan 5, 2022 17:43:34 GMT
Isn’t so-called long covid essentially post viral syndrome?
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Post by cubby on Jan 5, 2022 17:45:06 GMT
Yeah the NHS advice if you have "ongoing issues after having covid" (/looks at chopsen) you should contact your GP. They can do tests and scans and other stuff to check your lungs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 17:45:24 GMT
"I've been suffering horrifically - my face looks like its been stung by bees." Doctor: Go see a doctor...? "I'll just leave it." Glol.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 5, 2022 17:47:16 GMT
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Post by Psychotext on Jan 5, 2022 17:50:36 GMT
"I've been suffering horrifically - my face looks like its been stung by bees." Doctor: Go see a doctor...? "I'll just leave it." Given many people are struggling to get appointments with much more serious shit right now, I don't think it's an unreasonable point of view. It's just inflammation / swelling / whatever. Edit - I've also got my yearly full blood panel (sports / training related) in March anyway so I assume something will show up there if anything serious is going on.
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Post by jeepers on Jan 5, 2022 17:52:58 GMT
"I've been suffering horrifically - my face looks like its been stung by bees." Doctor: Go see a doctor...? "I'll just leave it." Given many people are struggling to get appointments with much more serious shit right now, I don't think it's an unreasonable point of view. It's just inflammation / swelling / whatever. Or the Face Swelling Dengue Fever (mortality 100%). But, yeah. Probably “swelling”.
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Post by captbirdseye on Jan 5, 2022 18:15:20 GMT
Ring Phil and Holly.
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Post by Reviewer on Jan 5, 2022 18:24:11 GMT
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Post by 111 on Jan 5, 2022 18:35:47 GMT
It's just swelling/whatever. You can see why "suffering horrifically" may have given the people you were asking for advice a different impression of the situation...
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Post by elstoof on Jan 5, 2022 18:41:00 GMT
PT is the dad from Encanto
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 5, 2022 18:43:05 GMT
It's just swelling/whatever. You can see why "suffering horrifically" may have given the people you were asking for advice a different impression of the situation... Give him a break FFS.
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Post by 111 on Jan 5, 2022 18:47:42 GMT
You're right I replied to a post, and then replied to... ONE MORE. When will the incessant hounding end?!
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Post by dfunked on Jan 5, 2022 18:55:06 GMT
Stop the pile on guys, omg!
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Post by Psychotext on Jan 5, 2022 19:01:25 GMT
You can see why "suffering horrifically" may have given the people you were asking for advice a different impression of the situation... Yeah, that's fair. It's very uncomfortable and unpleasant but you're right, it was somewhat of an over-exaggeration.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 5, 2022 19:09:19 GMT
You do you and all that but I don’t think anyone would hold it against you to get it checked out, even with all the crises it’s still what GPs are there for. Doesn’t sound pleasant, and maybe there’s something they can do quickly to help alleviate it.
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Post by elstoof on Jan 5, 2022 19:12:21 GMT
GPS aren’t even involved with covid diagnosis are they?
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Post by Psychotext on Jan 5, 2022 19:14:43 GMT
Related to the earlier discussion about the longer term effects of COVID, this just popped up which linked to some interesting studies. Clearly a ton of work still to be done there. Does sounds like Omicron is definitely a blessing in some regards though (especially as it's less likely to damage the brain via syncytia formation). You do you and all that but I don’t think anyone would hold it against you to get it checked out, even with all the crises it’s still what GPs are there for. Doesn’t sound pleasant, and maybe there’s something they can do quickly to help alleviate it. Missus has private medical with her work. Might have to see if it can cover me for this, better that than putting it on the NHS.
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Post by elstoof on Jan 5, 2022 19:32:15 GMT
What’s that dudes credentials, is he a doctor or researcher etc?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 19:34:41 GMT
He's the guy that compares it to smallpox.
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