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Post by mothercruncher on Jun 29, 2024 18:01:07 GMT
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Post by mothercruncher on Jun 29, 2024 18:02:32 GMT
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Post by cubby on Jun 29, 2024 18:09:21 GMT
Is he (not they, let's not pretend this is a movement bigger than Mark Steele) saying that 5g is an "uninsurable technology" because he's phoned up a broker to get some 5g insurance and they've gone "what the actual fuck are you on about?"
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jun 29, 2024 19:13:52 GMT
It's not formatted properly for mobile view either, so the policy they proudly boast of right there on the homepage is that they want to "Stop 5G and Contaminate D Vaccines." Someone should organise a mass letter writing and phonecall campaign demanding to know what a D Vaccine is and why they want them contaminated.
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Post by JuniorFE on Jun 29, 2024 19:18:41 GMT
It's not formatted properly for mobile view either, so the policy they proudly boast of right there on the homepage is that they want to "Stop 5G and Contaminate D Vaccines." Someone should organise a mass letter writing and phonecall campaign demanding to know what a D Vaccine is and why they want them contaminated. Vaccines for your wiener obvs
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 29, 2024 20:28:38 GMT
His audience probably thought it was Farage's doing.
They've uploaded a rather enjoyable video.
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 29, 2024 21:50:52 GMT
Good idea Nigel, set fire to it in the theatre.
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Post by cubby on Jun 29, 2024 21:59:23 GMT
Yes sack someone at the local town hall entirely because of your hurt feelings nige. He really is the biggest fucking snowflake.
How is immediately calling for someone to be sacked not cancel culture?
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Post by stuz359 on Jun 29, 2024 23:41:40 GMT
I've been working away for the past week, which from the sounds of things, may have been helpful in putting things in context and providing some distance.
Saying, 'Farage had a point' may have been going to far. I will concede that.
However, I stand by my point that Putin has been entirely consistent about his motivations going back some years.
Is it propaganda? Yes of course it is. Does it justify an illegal invasion of Ukraine? Absolutely not.
Is western propaganda really any different? Just pick a war in the last 60 years and tell me which one was justified. Maybe Kosovo?
I shall apologise for any offense caused.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 29, 2024 23:49:34 GMT
His audience probably thought it was Farage's doing.
They've uploaded a rather enjoyable video.
Loved the diversity of the crowd in that video...
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jun 30, 2024 1:20:03 GMT
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Post by X201 on Jun 30, 2024 4:15:27 GMT
Typical Labour inefficiency That’s twice as long as Truss ![](https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/33c7/live/584db960-365a-11ef-bdc5-41d7421c2adf.png.webp)
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Post by otto on Jun 30, 2024 5:44:02 GMT
Is western propaganda really any different? Just pick a war in the last 60 years and tell me which one was justified. Maybe Kosovo? I think what triggered a lot of the pushback on your previous comment was the whiff of false equivalence which I feel is still in this comment. It looks as if you’re saying there’s no difference between what Putin and ‘the west’ are saying about Ukraine. But there is all the difference in the world. We all know what Putin’s motivation is, yes he flagged this years back, that doesn’t make it ok. Ukraine has a right to exist as a sovereign state and to make its own decisions regarding its relations with other countries. When a bully uses its muscle to impose its will on an unwilling party, sometimes it is necessary to use muscle to resist. If your home country were invaded, civilians tortured and murdered, homes bombed, schools and hospitals destroyed, you would be justified in fighting back and you would naturally expect your friends to come to your help.
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Post by stuz359 on Jun 30, 2024 7:17:48 GMT
Is western propaganda really any different? Just pick a war in the last 60 years and tell me which one was justified. Maybe Kosovo? I think what triggered a lot of the pushback on your previous comment was the whiff of false equivalence which I feel is still in this comment. It looks as if you’re saying there’s no difference between what Putin and ‘the west’ are saying about Ukraine. But there is all the difference in the world. We all know what Putin’s motivation is, yes he flagged this years back, that doesn’t make it ok. Ukraine has a right to exist as a sovereign state and to make its own decisions regarding its relations with other countries. When a bully uses its muscle to impose its will on an unwilling party, sometimes it is necessary to use muscle to resist. If your home country were invaded, civilians tortured and murdered, homes bombed, schools and hospitals destroyed, you would be justified in fighting back and you would naturally expect your friends to come to your help. I said he's been consistent. Not that it's right, or justified. Completely agree, Ukraine is a sovereign state that has the right to defend itself, if there was one thing Johnson did that was right whilst in office, it was supporting Ukraine.
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Post by Onny on Jun 30, 2024 8:56:25 GMT
I see in that Led By Donkeys video he was talking about Critical Race Theory, another pile of utter shite he’s trying to bring over from the USA.
Please god let him not win in Clacton.
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Post by otto on Jun 30, 2024 9:00:55 GMT
I said he's been consistent. Not that it's right, or justified. But you said that no war was justified, and that western propaganda was no different to Putin’s propaganda. I think Ukraine is justified in waging a war of self defence against Russia, and I think we’re justified in helping them do that.
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Post by Ulythium on Jun 30, 2024 9:58:48 GMT
On the BBC News front page:
"Sunak challenged by Kuenssberg..."
First time for everything, I suppose.
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Post by apollo on Jun 30, 2024 11:25:33 GMT
Sunak and the tories gaslighting everyone, they have damaged the UK so much, even before truss got pork fingers on the PM spot for a couple of weeks and fucked every single person.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 30, 2024 13:31:27 GMT
Having a bit of a walk to stretch my legs last night after watching the football and saw my first "I'm voting Reform" sign up a street away. Shame I didn't have a pen on me to write "because I'm a cunt" on it.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 30, 2024 14:05:25 GMT
Farage seems to be doing his best to be the British Trump, what with big rallies that people pay for, and then boo the media at. Please god don't let it be successful.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 30, 2024 14:34:52 GMT
That sort of shit on the whole doesn't really fly in the UK as much as the powers that be really want it to be.
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Post by peekconfusion on Jun 30, 2024 14:38:26 GMT
That sort of shit on the whole doesn't really fly in the UK as much as the powers that be really want it to be. I don't know, I'm not willing to take anything for granted anymore. I feel like the anti-CRT thing is already really prevalent in the UK, just under different guises.
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Post by cubby on Jun 30, 2024 14:40:00 GMT
Oh god, not the flat screeners!
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Post by zephro on Jun 30, 2024 15:47:35 GMT
Past, Present, Future: Election 1945This is an interesting podcast on the 1945 election. There's a lot of weird but interesting parallels with today: - People widely didn't trust that much was possible from politicians, so the Labour manifesto is extremely built around "Do what we've already been doing" - The NHS is actually barely mentioned in the manifesto - The word socialism barely appears as it is attempting to appeal to everyone but "national" etc. appears 50-60 times. Plus its all based on the Beveridge report and Keynes who are Liberals anyhow - Immediately after this election a load of the Labour party went into full fighting themselves about not being radical enough. Actually attempting to unseat Atlee on the day he won - Everyone thought Atlee was a boring middle class bank manager. But they relied on Bevan and Bevin to do rally rousing speeches while he did reassuring middle class boring on the radio - Government spending was mostly still the military and they committed to the nuclear deterrent being built and clinging on to the Empire - Churchill was full fucking mad going "They'll institute a fucking gestapo cos Socialism" and distributed Hayek's Road to Serfdom. Which sounds very Tory party, also nobody listened as the country had been run that way for 6 years and no Gestapo was in sight. Very interesting anyway
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Post by brokenkey on Jun 30, 2024 17:26:11 GMT
Wasn't 1984 written as a take on Britain had become in 1948?
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 30, 2024 19:53:08 GMT
It's a very common misconception but no, if you're podcast inclined the two parter of Origin Story on George Orwell is very good, it's mostly Dorian Lynskey doing the talking as he is is rather knowledgeable on the subject and wrote "Ministry of Truth" about 1984.
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Post by Frog on Jun 30, 2024 19:58:46 GMT
There seems to be a lot of reform people on Facebook that think they are winning the election. Fuck knows why I keep getting it as I keep blocking them all, I'm guessing its because a couple of old people in my friends list read all of their shit.
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Post by cubby on Jun 30, 2024 20:04:20 GMT
They've got a lot of money swimming about social media at the moment. Quite a bit of it in rubles, so they say.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 30, 2024 20:15:25 GMT
Twitter does continue to have a load of shite on it but there's some stuff you'd not see elsewhere and this is one of those.
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Post by zephro on Jun 30, 2024 22:12:35 GMT
It is quite amusing that the great and the good still end up tramping around putting leaflets through doors and going "Oh fuck there's a fucking dog!" Or getting ritually humiliated by being laughed at on Question Time. Or doing your election speech stood next to Count Binface or some cunt dressed as Elmo.
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