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Post by Chopsen on Jun 28, 2024 12:12:03 GMT
The test is going to be whether they have been this beige to get over the line or if they really are going to be this anonymous for five years. I don’t think blindly accepting ’CHANGE’ as a blank cheque to do the bare minimum has done anyone any favours and they should have been pushed much harder but we are where we are. Like many people I live in a curated media bubble of my own creation, but from what I've read and heard, people *have* been pushing Labour quite hard on what exactly they're going to do to deliver anything (especially given the promised tax freezes) but they have been like an absolute brick wall on the matter and given *nothing*.
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Post by jimnastics on Jun 28, 2024 12:13:30 GMT
Just "chaps down the pub talk". Highlighted in bold the parts that got a genuine laugh out of me: www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2504p02wz3t?post=asset%3Aefef3cb6-c723-4a4e-8b16-77c4768fba93#postAs we've been reporting, Reform UK campaigners have been filmed apparently making racist comments by an undercover Channel 4 team. One volunteer, identified in the broadcast as Andrew Parker, is heard suggesting army recruits should carry out “target practice” by shooting at small boats carrying illegal migrants. Parker tells the PA news agency: “Of course I regret what I said. Christ, I’m not a racist. I’ve had Muslim girlfriends. It was typical chaps-down-the-pub talk.”He said he made the remarks in the "heat of the moment" because he was being "goaded on" - and asked whether he would like to apologise, he says: “Of course I’m sorry. They were off-the-cuff things that everyone says.” He says he has “a lot of Pakistani friends” and “Muslim friends”, and that he is “sick to death” of being asked about the footage. Parker is an actor and says he got involved with Reform UK by contacting the party himself and volunteering to do leafletting. He previously told Channel 4 News he had been expressing personal views that he hadn’t previously discussed with the party.
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Post by Chopsen on Jun 28, 2024 12:14:22 GMT
I don't see it as cyclical really. I think there are factors at play across our metacivilisation (forgive the wanky bollocks) which favour the growth of the populist right, and I don't think those factors are going to be going away. We need to find better strategies for kicking the fash in the nuts. Yeah, I heard this song called "Death Machine" by a band called AJJ today for the first time and it made me think of....well, everything.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 28, 2024 12:29:36 GMT
My concern is that we are just a cycle behind, with a swing to an even harder right in 4-5 years time. I think/hope Brexit has helped buck the trend there with us. Yeah, I think we are ahead of the curve on the ‘become a bit facism’ roadmap
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 28, 2024 12:36:07 GMT
Just "chaps down the pub talk". Highlighted in bold the parts that got a genuine laugh out of me: www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2504p02wz3t?post=asset%3Aefef3cb6-c723-4a4e-8b16-77c4768fba93#postAs we've been reporting, Reform UK campaigners have been filmed apparently making racist comments by an undercover Channel 4 team. One volunteer, identified in the broadcast as Andrew Parker, is heard suggesting army recruits should carry out “target practice” by shooting at small boats carrying illegal migrants. Parker tells the PA news agency: “Of course I regret what I said. Christ, I’m not a racist. I’ve had Muslim girlfriends. It was typical chaps-down-the-pub talk.”He said he made the remarks in the "heat of the moment" because he was being "goaded on" - and asked whether he would like to apologise, he says: “Of course I’m sorry. They were off-the-cuff things that everyone says.” He says he has “a lot of Pakistani friends” and “Muslim friends”, and that he is “sick to death” of being asked about the footage. Parker is an actor and says he got involved with Reform UK by contacting the party himself and volunteering to do leafletting. He previously told Channel 4 News he had been expressing personal views that he hadn’t previously discussed with the party. You know when you're down the pub with your mates and the topic of gunning down people in small boats? Proper bantz. Every time. Seriously though why are bigots so shy about their bigotry?
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Post by grey_matters on Jun 28, 2024 12:43:09 GMT
Just "chaps down the pub talk". Highlighted in bold the parts that got a genuine laugh out of me: www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2504p02wz3t?post=asset%3Aefef3cb6-c723-4a4e-8b16-77c4768fba93#postAs we've been reporting, Reform UK campaigners have been filmed apparently making racist comments by an undercover Channel 4 team. One volunteer, identified in the broadcast as Andrew Parker, is heard suggesting army recruits should carry out “target practice” by shooting at small boats carrying illegal migrants. Parker tells the PA news agency: “Of course I regret what I said. Christ, I’m not a racist. I’ve had Muslim girlfriends. It was typical chaps-down-the-pub talk.”He said he made the remarks in the "heat of the moment" because he was being "goaded on" - and asked whether he would like to apologise, he says: “Of course I’m sorry. They were off-the-cuff things that everyone says.” He says he has “a lot of Pakistani friends” and “Muslim friends”, and that he is “sick to death” of being asked about the footage. Parker is an actor and says he got involved with Reform UK by contacting the party himself and volunteering to do leafletting. He previously told Channel 4 News he had been expressing personal views that he hadn’t previously discussed with the party. You know when you're down the pub with your mates and the topic of gunning down people in small boats? Proper bantz. Every time. Seriously though why are bigots so shy about their bigotry? It's the last semblance of caring what others think. So it's probably a good thing in that there are thoughts of wider society involved somewhere in shitcunt's brain. It might all be gone soon.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jun 28, 2024 12:45:00 GMT
I do wonder how sincere people are when they say "everyone says it".
Given that most of their friends are also racist dickheads, from their limited view it's plausible that everyone they know *does* think that way.
I mean it's clearly still shit and no excuse. But it it just makes it clear what kind of people they hang out with.
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Post by Ulythium on Jun 28, 2024 13:22:17 GMT
Ah, the old Trump playbook!
Boast about grabbing a woman by the pussy, consent be damned? "Locker-room talk."
Make a series of comments that're as vile as they are racist? "Typical chaps-down-the-pub talk."
Go fuck yourself.
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Post by senso on Jun 28, 2024 13:45:30 GMT
And, inevitably, Farage has decried that this was all a 'set up':
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Post by sport✅ on Jun 28, 2024 13:52:44 GMT
Sounds like entrapment by Ch4.
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Post by Vandelay on Jun 28, 2024 15:14:07 GMT
And, inevitably, Farage has decried that this was all a 'set up': Has anything in Farage's life not been a set up? Starting to sound like the longest Beadle's About sketch ever conceived.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 28, 2024 15:21:32 GMT
In all fairness it takes an actor to recognise an actor, wouldn't you say?
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Post by sport✅ on Jun 28, 2024 15:31:41 GMT
In all fairness it takes an actor to recognise an actor, wouldn't you say? A lot of bad actors around these days.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 28, 2024 15:38:49 GMT
I'm finding it a bit hard to have any sympathy for Sunak now, after he's spent so long emboldening these people and attacking other groups. Something about leopards and faces. Plus I just don't trust a word that he says so I can't help but feel he doesn't really give a shit, but thinks it's a good way to get votes.
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 28, 2024 15:54:01 GMT
The only way Farage got rid of the BNP was with rebranding into UKIP and changing some of the language used very slightly, and then doing it again with Reform.
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Post by otto on Jun 28, 2024 15:56:48 GMT
Farage got rid of the BNP the way Snickers got rid of Marathon
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Post by Ulythium on Jun 28, 2024 15:58:21 GMT
Farage "got rid" of the BNP the same way Zavvi "got rid" of Virgin Megastores.
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Post by X201 on Jun 28, 2024 17:07:38 GMT
Farage instantly reaches for the Trump playbook. Fake news, msm stitch up, etc…
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Post by Rich on Jun 28, 2024 17:59:13 GMT
NO ONE HAS FOUGHT HARDER AGAINST RIGHTWING EXTREMISM THAN FARAGE
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Post by stuz359 on Jun 29, 2024 8:03:34 GMT
Isabel Oakeshott has been pushing the 'actor' thing very hard over the last few days.
Actors are people too, who have political views, are they not allowed to express them?
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Post by peekconfusion on Jun 29, 2024 8:20:45 GMT
If he was about to perform a role, why would he out himself as an actor straightaway?
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Post by Frog on Jun 29, 2024 8:30:20 GMT
So I imagine the Reform Ltd company will be taking this actor to court then for damaging their image. Should already have their lawyers on it I'm guessing so the story about it will be there in 3.2.1...oh soon though.
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Post by Dougs on Jun 29, 2024 9:41:17 GMT
Looking at his profile, it's a very loose definition of the word actor too. Being a member of Equity means shit. My wife kept hers up but refused to call herself an actor because she's not worked in so long.
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Post by hicksy on Jun 29, 2024 9:47:18 GMT
The thing is I’ve seen Farage’s swing and he regularly slices it to the right and can’t hit it father than 10 yards.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 29, 2024 9:52:40 GMT
I guess all the fuckwits that Reform have got standing as candidates are actors, Channel 4 must have spent so much money to make this happen.
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Post by Rich on Jun 29, 2024 13:31:31 GMT
Farage threatening to boycott the BBC. I fully behind this.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 29, 2024 13:45:42 GMT
Man complains he's not being taken seriously and demands to be on TV show.
Man appears on TV and lots of people fucking hate him, guess being taken seriously and facing scrutiny isn't what he wants after all.
Another right winger with the thinnest of skins, which makes some sense as he's a frog faced twat.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 29, 2024 14:20:32 GMT
Farage threatening to boycott the BBC. I fully behind this. Looks like someone's trying to copy the Trump playbook wholesale but not realising they don't possess any of the charisma to pull it off.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 29, 2024 14:30:31 GMT
Well that makes a change! /s
Just Christ, how many times has he been on Question Time and Laura Kussenberg (or whatever it was called before). He must have been on more than any other single politician. (I use the word loosely)
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jun 29, 2024 16:25:29 GMT
It's going to come down to a coalition government between these two, isn't it.
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