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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 27, 2024 19:39:39 GMT
Of course.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 27, 2024 20:00:44 GMT
Spookily, I actually was fighting Mesmer
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Post by Frog on Jun 27, 2024 20:07:09 GMT
I'd rather be yelling at reform cunts than fight that bastard again.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 27, 2024 20:23:40 GMT
Just catching up on all the totally unexpected racism, homophobia and general all round bigotry coming from all these Reform guys. Hopefully Nige can get to the bottom of it and root out all the bad actors in his party. So 99.9% of it.
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Post by pizzacrunch on Jun 27, 2024 20:28:32 GMT
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Post by Ulythium on Jun 27, 2024 20:44:57 GMT
Nigel Farage 'dismayed' at 'reprehensible' comments from Reform campaignerswww.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c10l5qd8p60o"Who would've thought that building a political party around prejudice, ignorance, and hatred would attract the scum of the earth?" mused the leaders of Reform UK.
In other news:
"Why am I so damned itchy?" pondered the man who laid down with dogs. "What happened to my face? I swear it was here yesterday!" wondered the woman who'd voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.
"How was I supposed to know that all those bloody chickens would come home to roost?" demanded the amateur ornithologist.
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Post by peekconfusion on Jun 27, 2024 21:47:20 GMT
And we are sure that the Reform guy wasn't provoked by NATO's expansion in Eastern Europe yes?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 27, 2024 22:07:16 GMT
#hehasapoint
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Post by X201 on Jun 28, 2024 6:10:07 GMT
You can find a list of all candidates in Fontgeek North on our website.
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Post by Rich on Jun 28, 2024 6:30:47 GMT
Hopefully in a weeks time I'm waking up with a hangover and an end to this shit show.
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Post by Vandelay on Jun 28, 2024 6:42:55 GMT
Yep, and we can all start panicking about the US instead.
And France.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 28, 2024 7:04:59 GMT
We need a competent government more than ever with the shit show about to take over in the US and God knows what's going to happen in France.
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Jun 28, 2024 8:30:45 GMT
Yeah Starmer may find himself in a situation of Britain keeping its head, when all around are losing theirs.
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Post by Dougs on Jun 28, 2024 8:51:30 GMT
My concern is that we are just a cycle behind, with a swing to an even harder right in 4-5 years time.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 28, 2024 9:05:40 GMT
My concern is that we are just a cycle behind, with a swing to an even harder right in 4-5 years time. Yeah I'm also terrified of this. I just keep thinking of what happened in years and years where eventually the farage type person becomes Prime minister 😱 Labour really need to do well in government or we're fucked.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 28, 2024 9:08:08 GMT
I mean, that depends on how milquetoast he continues to be. I know he’s getting a pass because he ‘needs broad appeal’ but if he does fuck all in this next parliament, people are going to go back to chasing every unicorn they are offered.
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Post by Ulythium on Jun 28, 2024 9:20:40 GMT
I'm becoming more concerned about this as time goes by.
Look at the US: Biden won in 2020 by offering stability and normality after four years of chaos under Trump (and even then, the result of the election was closer than it should've been).
Nobody seemed all that excited at the prospect of a Biden presidency, but it was a damn sight better than the alternative.
Now, four years later, we're on the verge of Trump 2.0 - not because Biden has done a bad job (he hasn't), but due to a wide variety of factors, some of which were beyond his/the Democrats' ability to control.
If Starmer's first term plays out like Biden's, we could find out that we are indeed "just a cycle behind."
The Tories might be going into the next election with Badenoch, Braverman, or Farage at the helm, pushing ever further into batshit territory, while Starmer might've failed to energise enough liberals and/or satisfy enough centrists to get reelected.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 28, 2024 9:23:49 GMT
It’s a bit different. For all his faults, Starmer isn’t demented. Their biggest issue is that they aren’t going to satisfy anyone who votes for them. They aren’t progressive enough for the left and aren’t Tory enough for ‘socially liberal, fiscally conservative’ idiots.
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Post by Ulythium on Jun 28, 2024 9:31:27 GMT
It's by no means a perfect analogy, I agree.
If you take Biden's age and mental acuity out of the equation - which is borderline impossible, and has become even more difficult within the past 12 hours - his single biggest drawback is the one you mention, which I fear Starmer may come to embody as well.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 28, 2024 9:46:36 GMT
The test is going to be whether they have been this beige to get over the line or if they really are going to be this anonymous for five years.
I don’t think blindly accepting ’CHANGE’ as a blank cheque to do the bare minimum has done anyone any favours and they should have been pushed much harder but we are where we are.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 28, 2024 9:46:50 GMT
Yeah Starmer may find himself in a situation of Britain keeping its head, when all around are losing theirs. Only Britain soldiers on.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 28, 2024 10:55:08 GMT
Yeah Starmer may find himself in a situation of Britain keeping its head, when all around are losing theirs. Only Britain soldiers on. I think you'll find it's "England prevails". /shudder
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Jun 28, 2024 11:11:56 GMT
I get the feeling that after his comments on Ukraine crashed and burned, and with his election team outing themselves as bigots, along with Biden shitting the bed in the debate. That Farage might pivot to a Britain is a lost cause, the globalist, Islamist, wokeratti liberal elites have stitched me up, position. Dust off his taint licking kneepads and be on a plane to the US even sooner than Sunak, next weekend.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 28, 2024 11:12:51 GMT
I think you'll find it's "England prevails". /shudder Someone hasn't seen "Children of Men"
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Post by Duffking on Jun 28, 2024 11:36:45 GMT
Honestly, if the Democrats had the sense to field someone who isn't basically a walking corpse as their candidate and isn't already a highly controversial figure then they'd be wiping the floor with Trump.
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Post by Honk If You're Horny? on Jun 28, 2024 11:39:40 GMT
The answer is clear. Invade France.
Send our battleships up the mighty Thames and on to Paris.
Next up USA.
We'll soon have these Frenchies and Yanks whipped back into shape.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 28, 2024 11:58:20 GMT
I thought we were a cycle ahead, given brexit etc...
Or maybe we're behind the US and ahead of Europe.
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Post by jimnastics on Jun 28, 2024 12:05:18 GMT
My concern is that we are just a cycle behind, with a swing to an even harder right in 4-5 years time. EEeuuughghgh I can't allow myself to think like that, I think I'd just give up on life. I'm telling myself that we speed ran our brush with the far right and got away with it lightly, keeping them largely at arms length, and now we've got a centrist Labour in for at least 2 terms, who will gradually shift over to the left (but not too far) in time.
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Post by Chopsen on Jun 28, 2024 12:08:18 GMT
My concern is that we are just a cycle behind, with a swing to an even harder right in 4-5 years time. I think/hope Brexit has helped buck the trend there with us.
Elsewhere, apart from older people just turning massively reactionary and right wing as they get older, you've got generations of younger people with no real memory of the right really fucking things up too. Gen X have a lingering memory of the left fucking things up, but no real lived in experience of the right fucking things up or just straight up being fascists. This is what's to me is sustaining AfD and NR growth. Young people who are buying in to the "blame the Others" narrative for problems which they're facing. Italy's always been nuts.
With us, we've gone through the right wing populism solution proposition over the last 10 + years, and speed ran with Brexit. And it failed, and is taking the Tory party out with it.
I'm hoping we're not a cycle *ahead*, not behind.
I hope.
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Post by otto on Jun 28, 2024 12:10:28 GMT
I don't see it as cyclical really. I think there are factors at play across our metacivilisation (forgive the wanky bollocks) which favour the growth of the populist right, and I don't think those factors are going to be going away. We need to find better strategies for kicking the fash in the nuts.
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