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Post by 😎 on Nov 24, 2021 16:02:03 GMT
My girlfriend does home cold brew and drinks iced coffee like there’s a worldwide shortage incoming. Her birthday is coming up, is it worth a good roaster/grinder kind of stuff or is that only essential for hot coffee?
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 24, 2021 16:18:13 GMT
A good grinder will always help whatever youre grinding for. It just ensures uniformity so if youre grinding fairly coarse for cold brew it will minimise the fines and make the results repeatable, basically.
The mrs takes the piss but what you are looking for in coffee is consistency which is why people weigh beans and water and whatnot. If you make a nice cup of coffee, you want that again. A good grinder makes it repeatable, basically.
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Post by mikeck on Nov 24, 2021 16:29:29 GMT
Where from? I get the Tesco House Blend no.3, it’s actually really nice Is this the Costa Rican one? Having moved to the depths of Devon I have much less choice on my doorstep (and find a lot of online options to be too pricey for everyday drinking - treats only), I tried a lot of different options from Tesco (used to order loads of different brands from Ocado, but they don't deliver to my neck of the woods) and didn't like a lot of them, but the mid-roast Costa Rican Finest bag is very good. I've also realised with drinking a lot more during the day now I work fully remote that I no longer have much of a tolerance for dark roasts anymore - used to be the darker and stronger the better, but now I want something more smooth (but still punchy in flavour). |
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Post by Sarfrin on Nov 24, 2021 18:03:25 GMT
My girlfriend does home cold brew and drinks iced coffee like there’s a worldwide shortage incoming. Her birthday is coming up, is it worth a good roaster/grinder kind of stuff or is that only essential for hot coffee? I bought a grinder a couple of years ago. Definitely good for cold brew as you want a coarser grounds than typical pre ground you can buy. ETA Get a decent burr grinder though. Cheap grinders are nasty. |
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Post by Sarfrin on Nov 24, 2021 19:07:16 GMT
A V60 is just as quick and neat. It also doesn't look like a penis enlarger. Reading about them, there's stuff about getting a swan necked kettle and having to perfect your circular pour to get a decent cup of coffee. Is that just coffee wanker bullshit I can live without? |
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Post by Vortex on Nov 24, 2021 19:32:06 GMT
A goose-necked pourer has been one of my better purchases.
Slower, more controlled pour to not disturb the coffee bed.
Plus, using it feels nice. 😀
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 24, 2021 19:49:40 GMT
You can use a normal jug kettle ok, those tapered cone type ones are a pain in the arse, though.
Gooseneck does rule all, though. As above it just gives you a lot better control which helps with repeatable results.
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Post by brokenkey on Nov 24, 2021 19:52:21 GMT
I reuse my aeropress filter papers about 15 times before I throw them out.
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Post by Sarfrin on Nov 24, 2021 19:54:21 GMT
I think a special kettle just for pouring water on coffee might be a wank too far for me. I'll stick to my aeropress.
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Post by Frog on Nov 24, 2021 19:55:10 GMT
Just get a metal one?
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Post by Vortex on Nov 24, 2021 20:00:48 GMT
I think a special kettle just for pouring water on coffee might be a wank too far for me. I'll stick to my aeropress. The pourers cost about ten quid. It doesn't need to be a new kettle. |
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Post by dfunked on Nov 24, 2021 20:31:18 GMT
This is all starting to sound like more faff than just cleaning my French press...
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Post by gamecat on Nov 24, 2021 20:37:22 GMT
The Clever Coffee Dripper also doesn't need a fancy necked kettles/pourer.
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Post by Sarfrin on Nov 24, 2021 20:48:46 GMT
Literally the first two links I followed showed people using a fancy kettle to pour water into them.
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Post by tonyferrino on Nov 24, 2021 21:18:13 GMT
I've just got a steel goose necked jug. Boil kettle, fill jug, pour into V60. It's basically one more step that takes 3 seconds
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Post by dfunked on Nov 24, 2021 21:19:26 GMT
Is that the step before you stand there slowly pouring water for a full minute?
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Post by tonyferrino on Nov 24, 2021 21:25:15 GMT
Well. Yeah. But it's not really much longer than allowing your aeropress to bloom then plunging for 20 or 30 seconds. It's not really an issue. But the benefit of not splurging all your water into the coffee bed in one clumsy pour is worth it imo.
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Post by gamecat on Nov 24, 2021 22:37:04 GMT
Literally the first two links I followed showed people using a fancy kettle to pour water into them. The dripper? You definitely don't, just fill it quickly as possible like the aeropress. V60 brewing is the only reason for fancy necked kettles I can think of, though you might want a temperature controlled kettle, and most of those come with a goose neck anyway.
edit: I just remembered, putting the coffee in after the water is supposed to help with clogging and give a better brew, pretty sure there's no fancy pouring of water involved there.
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Post by spacein_vader on Nov 25, 2021 6:58:52 GMT
I've never used a goose neck with my V60. As long as you're not a completely clumsy oaf it's more than possible to pour gently from a normal kettle.
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Post by stixxuk on Nov 25, 2021 7:41:45 GMT
I've got the Bambino Plus and it spits out good coffee with minimal fuss. It's only little but works consistently well. I got the smart grinder as well, which suffers a bit from clumping so I bought a ring that you place on top of the portafilter and it stops grounds from spilling out. Makes the fit inside the grinder a bit less good but it works. If you've got a bit extra cash you might want to put more money into the grinder as a result. It still knocks the socks off the cheaper Bodum grinder I used to have which is important at espresso grinds. The tamper that comes with it is a bit crap too, I bought one of the ones which has leveller and tamper sides and instantly got much better results. Got the same combination a few months ago, haven't looked back. I might get a better tamper though. The clumping issue is resolved by a quick stir with a bent paper clip and a vertical tap on the counter. So quick and easy to use and makes really good coffee. I was skeptical at first but now I've learned to use it I definitely prefer it to the AP. |
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Post by uiruki on Nov 25, 2021 8:12:54 GMT
Yeah, the speed of the whole process surprised me. I can get a shot from scratch in less time than it takes to boil a kettle if I’m sharp. One of the reasons I was hesitant on getting something like a Rancilio Silvia was the amount of time they take to warm up but I can make a really good coffee from scratch in just a few minutes which is more useful than I thought it would be.
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 25, 2021 8:18:37 GMT
This is all starting to sound like more faff than just cleaning my French press... As others have said, the aeropress is a better version of the French press. Cleaning takes seconds, it filters better and the whole thing is minimum effort for what you get. I’ve tried the pour over method and it just doesn’t work for me as you do need to be a bit more diligent with it all. Now I just measure the weight of coffee then as the same amount of water without even trying (scales involved). 10g of coffee to 200ml off just off the boil water. The cup makes a difference to taste too. |
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Post by dfunked on Nov 25, 2021 8:40:31 GMT
Cheers all. Aeropress it is then!
I've fairly recently started the transition to black coffee after having it with milk all my life. I'd almost say I prefer it at this point.
Lovely with a bit of dark chocolate to nibble on.
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Post by LFace on Nov 25, 2021 8:57:54 GMT
V60 decanter with Burr Grinder and goose neck kettle here. No looking back. It's the Flac format of coffee making
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 25, 2021 9:31:27 GMT
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Post by Vortex on Nov 25, 2021 9:51:12 GMT
V60 coffee is so much smoother than cafetierre/french press imo.
And I say this having been sad enough to brew up both at the same time with the same amount of water and coffee. There really is a discernable taste difference and the v60 was much more pleasant and less harsh to drink.
I do like an espresso though (and also have a mokka pot hidden away in the cupboard), but want to try to get the hang of a frother on a bean to cup machine to try to see if i can get the hang of the cortado/flat white game.
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Post by mikeck on Nov 25, 2021 9:53:54 GMT
I haven't taken my coffee habits too seriously (no goose neck for me) but I do have a Moka pot, V60, Aeropress, cafetière and a coffee machine (thermos filter jug, espresso and pod, milk steamer), plus grinder...so I guess I'm well covered  I've stopped using the Moka as I just don't drink the strength of coffee that I used to, generally my go-to these days is a pot of filter coffee from the machine for the morning, and if I want a top-up in the afternoon I'll flit between the V60 or the Aeropress (I usually revert to tea from late afternoon onwards). I use the cafetière if making coffee for others and we're all drinking it there and then, otherwise it'll again be a pot left on the machine if we have guests that have stayed over and they just want a top-up over the morning. |
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Post by Vortex on Dec 7, 2021 13:42:31 GMT
Have ordered a Sage Barista Pro as a slightly early(ish) present for myself.
More coffee related shit to put in the kitchen, much to my missus' delight, but at least the old tassimo machine will be moved out/sold on.
Now i just need to learn how to work the fucker when it arrives. I hope it's decent.
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Post by LFace on Dec 7, 2021 13:56:52 GMT
That looks a nice bit of kit.
One thing that I've been meaning to look into that can probably be answered easily here. These espresso machines with portafilters. Can they make a regular mug of coffee as well? Like proper English mug, not just a poncy half sized cup you use holding your little finger out.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 7, 2021 13:58:27 GMT
I picked up a delonghi dedica on black friday for 85 quid. Im not really an espresso person but I have wanted a milk steamer, so thought I would give it a go and Im not in for too much money. Swapped out the pressurised portafilter for a bottomless one and it actually makes really decent coffee.
Spent the first few days after delivery ripped off my tits while I got to grips with the workflow, though.
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