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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 5, 2022 8:17:26 GMT
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 5, 2022 8:23:33 GMT
Thanks, dumb question but what do the kettles do?
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Post by gamecat on Jan 5, 2022 8:34:18 GMT
Nothing wrong with a plastic v60 really, which can be had for a fiver. An Aeropress is a bit easier than a v60 though, if you want minimal fuss, you kind of need to stand over a v60 and fiddle with it a bit if you want the best results.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 5, 2022 8:42:08 GMT
To get the best out of a v60, you want to be pouring at a steady, consistent rate and a good kettle will let you do that. My old kettle used to just blart the water all over it.
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Post by uiruki on Jan 5, 2022 8:44:03 GMT
A goose neck kettle makes it easier to pour water at a slower rate. It's a nice usability upgrade for consistency (which is very important) but not totally essential.
You can get ones which heat the water to the right temperature too but since they're all 1kW models that makes them very slow compared to a normal one.
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 5, 2022 8:50:44 GMT
Hmm, so V60 needs more care in the actual making than stovetop pot/machine but has less cleaning than pot and better results than machine (apart from full on expresso machines that are trickier). That right?
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Post by dfunked on Jan 5, 2022 9:07:02 GMT
*cough* aeropress *cough*
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Post by Vortex on Jan 5, 2022 9:07:26 GMT
V60 cleaning involves chucking out the filter paper and a wee rinse out.
Gooseneck kettle or a pourer helps massively.
Coffee is smoother in a v60 compared to cafettiere or a moka pot imo.
Aeropress is also supposed to be decent, but i have a v60 set & can vouch for tgat over cafettiere /moka things i also have.
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Post by stixxuk on Jan 5, 2022 9:34:19 GMT
If you want a nice cup of coffee, easy with no fuss (maybe add a dash of milk), get an Aeropress. If you want to try and perfect a nuanced cup and be a true coffee wanker that only drinks specialty coffee, always black and make tasting notes on the impact of changing your grind size very slightly, get a V60.
As mentioned by others, with a V60 you'll probably also need a gooseneck kettle but also a set of scales with a timer and a better grinder too.
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Post by gamecat on Jan 5, 2022 9:43:08 GMT
V60 brewing is standing next to it for 2 mins, doing generally 3 separate controlled pours, maybe some swirling and the odd stir. Aeropress brewing: get water in as fast as possible, leave a couple mins, swirl, wait 30 secs and press (at least that's one method)
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 5, 2022 9:48:38 GMT
Out of the many, many, methods of making coffee in my kitchen, the v60 probably makes my favourite coffee. I do like a flat white but that is more of a fuckaround than I can usually be bothered with.
The filter machine gets probably the most use as its the wifes favourite coffee and I dont mind it, so we stick a pot on first thing.
The mokka pot only really gets used when/if we go camping.
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Post by spacein_vader on Jan 5, 2022 10:20:44 GMT
I started without a gooseneck kettle, scales or even a grinder with my V60 brewing preground. Biggest upgrade was grinding my own beans, I still haven't bothered with a gooseneck though as if you're careful with a normal one you can get pretty close and I'm cheap.
Cleaning is literally bin the filter and rinse.
YouTube is full of people with their own super special technique for pouring the best V60 coffee. I tried a few and could barely tell the difference.
Biggest other advantage of the V60 is the cost. If you try this route and it isn't for you it's cost you sub £20.
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Post by torb on Jan 10, 2022 22:17:52 GMT
V60 is the real wanky (and super tasty) way to make filter coffee. CleverDrip if you can find it is the easier compromise and it uses regular filters + no need for a fancy kettle.
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Post by Sarfrin on Jan 30, 2022 14:06:14 GMT
So I got a V60. Looked at Clever Drip but there were a lot of reviews saying it broke easily and I didn't fancy paying three times the price for something that's gone the first time I drop it.
With a normal kettle and no experience it made a decent cup of coffee very easily with minimal clean up so it's already a win for the price really.
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Post by torb on Feb 2, 2022 20:34:36 GMT
Congrats! It really is the best way to brew a cup of coffee.
Edit: I was about to say my clever drip has held up fine, but then realise that's a lie, one of the little feet broke off and I had to glue it back together. Still works fine after the repair, but a V60 will probably never break without some bad luck.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 3, 2022 3:37:55 GMT
Hold on, I just googled a V60 and it's just a regular filter coffee thingy. I was expecting something high tech or revolutionary or super pricey.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 3, 2022 7:36:01 GMT
It’s the lowest tech, highest faff, best result method. Probably the cheapest entry into specialty coffee. A v60 and a pack of filters will set you back like a tenner.
If you are something of a weeb, you will notice that the high end coffee shop they all work at in Tokyo Ghoul serves nothing but v60s. It’s big in Japan.
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Post by Reviewer on Feb 3, 2022 8:13:47 GMT
I’ve got one of those clever drip ones on its way after watching Hoffman do it. I might do a taste comparison with my aeropress.
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Post by Vortex on Feb 3, 2022 9:26:01 GMT
I do very much like my V60, of the other 'coffee' things I have it's up at the top, but I have to say my recent coffee wanker purchase of the sage barista pro bean to cup machine tops them all.
It really does make a fantastic cup of coffee, to the extent that having coffee out is sometimes a disappointment now.
Recomeded.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 3, 2022 14:10:59 GMT
Not always a sign of quality. But yeah, hario is a bit of a household name over here. Never thought of it as anything special though, it's just the one that's in the supermarket. Oh, it's cone shaped? I'm sure that'll make a big difference to the taste!
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Post by torb on Feb 3, 2022 16:37:20 GMT
I actually found my Clever Drip in a Tokyu Hands on a trip to Japan. My gf looooves anything Japan in general, and Hario specifically. We also have a Shiba Inu (of course).
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Post by imamazed on Feb 3, 2022 16:55:02 GMT
Hario hand grinder here, kalita wave for the dripper though. It's basically the same as a V60 but uses fancy pants shaped filters. I've no idea if it's any better than a basic V60, but the version I have looks lovely. Sandstone ceramic.
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Post by torb on Feb 3, 2022 17:06:31 GMT
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 3, 2022 17:14:10 GMT
According to Hoffmann, if you add a very small amount of water to your beans prior to grinding - preferably a light spritz from a bottle - it should solve the static issue. I've never tried it myself, mind.
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 3, 2022 17:16:38 GMT
This is the only Hario product I own - it works pretty well, but you need to put in a metric shit-ton of coffee.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 5, 2022 13:37:25 GMT
This is the only Hario product I own - it works pretty well, but you need to put in a metric shit-ton of coffee. Heh, me too. I haven't used it for a few years though. Took too long and I never remembered to clean it or set it up, so it was never ready when I wanted it.
Aeropress uses a shit-ton of coffee too.
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 5, 2022 13:52:09 GMT
Heh, me too. I haven't used it for a few years though. Took too long and I never remembered to clean it or set it up, so it was never ready when I wanted it.
Aeropress uses a shit-ton of coffee too.
Same!
Planning ahead isn't exactly my strong suit, so the Mizudashi fell out of favour rather quickly; still, it made some delicious cold brew when I managed to get my act together and use the damn thing.
I've never found that the Aeropress uses an egregious amount of coffee, though. Maybe 'cause I only ever make one cup at a time - I know you can mess around with the coffee:water ratios and get multiple cups by topping up the resulting concentrate, but I've never tried that.
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Post by gamecat on Feb 5, 2022 15:06:08 GMT
Yea I use 11g for a cup in an Aeropress, doesn't seem excessive amounts. You can make those 30g super strong, 'championship winning' recipes if you want a caffeine overdose I guess.
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Post by Warrender on Feb 5, 2022 15:33:24 GMT
Yea I use 11g for a cup in an Aeropress, doesn't seem excessive amounts. You can make those 30g super strong, 'championship winning' recipes if you want a caffeine overdose I guess. Hoffman actually explained that those championship recipes weren't meant for daily consumption but, rather, for trying to win at a taste contest.
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Post by Sarfrin on Feb 6, 2022 1:12:16 GMT
This is the only Hario product I own - it works pretty well, but you need to put in a metric shit-ton of coffee. Heh, me too. I haven't used it for a few years though. Took too long and I never remembered to clean it or set it up, so it was never ready when I wanted it.
Aeropress uses a shit-ton of coffee too.
Eh? You just put a filter in the plastic cone and dump it in the recycyling afterwards. It's the easiest coffee thing I've ever had. I use about half the grounds I put in an Aeropress for one cup.
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