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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 27, 2024 12:59:16 GMT
Amazingly I got my asking price of £350 for my PS5 with hardly any time wasters. Suppose it did have expanded storage and black faceplates, but I still expected some sort of haggling... First guy to message me offered me £200 of course, just to complete the marketplace experience. Was that a 1st gen ps5? |
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Post by dfunked on Sept 27, 2024 12:59:48 GMT
Yep, launch model.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 27, 2024 12:59:53 GMT
That ain't bad for £350. I need to shift mine.. but I can't be without it for that long.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 27, 2024 13:02:05 GMT
I guess 350 is pretty good. I mistakenly bought mine in euros when I bought it off amazon here as I wasn't properly looking at the bit that asked if I wanted to use my Andorran card in euros or pounds. So I paid 530 euros for that pleasure.
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Post by dfunked on Sept 27, 2024 13:12:31 GMT
Yeah, paid £449 for it 4 years ago, so was expecting to take more of a hit than that.
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 27, 2024 13:45:13 GMT
£350 is really good. I see CEX is giving £230 for base PS5 (disc drive versions), which isn't too bad.
Finally watched the DF video on it and, yeah, I can definitely see plenty of noticeable improvements. The comparison between Performance modes and the Pro modes were very noticeable, particularly for FF7 Rebirth (I've not played it and I was surprised how rubbish it looked on a regular PS5). Definitely can now see why some people would want to pick up the new system, although I would still say the price is at least £100 too much (and it should include a disc drive).
Something that the chap from Insomniac said did make me think about the general direction. He said that they considered their PS5 games as fidelity first games and then they "made it work" at 60fps. I wonder if in the future we could see a lot of developers not bothering with performance modes and just having a single level of fidelity (with a few tweaks here and there), but it runs at 30 on the PS5 and 60 on the Pro.
Not something I would particularly like, as I normally favour the 60fps modes, but I can see from a marketing perspective it being a simple message. They would likely want to be able to show off some fancy ray tracing on the Pro too, but splitting the systems as this one is your 30fps experience and this is your 60fps experience (or 60/120fps for less demanding games) could be a clear distinction between the systems. Also would save developers time on having to create additional modes.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 27, 2024 13:53:33 GMT
Nah, I doubt we're going to suddenly see 60fps being taken away especially 1st party. If the game is cpu limited the ps5 pro won't even make a difference. It's just going to be a choice of 60fps with compromises and 60fps without. The base ps5 is still going to be the most used system they're not going to start catering exclusively for a vanishingly small install base that is the pro.
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 27, 2024 13:53:34 GMT
dfunked How big an SSD did you put in it, a 1Tb?
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 27, 2024 13:55:41 GMT
Hopefully the 40Hz modes keep on being more of a thing on the regular PS5, that seems to be a great sweet spot on performance and looks for it. Something I never realised before I long term borrowed a 120Hz capable OLED as I couldn't use it before.
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Post by dfunked on Sept 27, 2024 13:56:55 GMT
Yeah, which in fairness you can pick up for £50ish these days so I didn't see the point of removing it before selling. Felt like the 2TB of the pro should be enough storage for me, as that's more than I'm used to.
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 27, 2024 14:02:42 GMT
You've got a boost to your total storage and yeah the price of SSDs for a PS5 have dropped a lot, I thought I'd got a bargain at 150 for a Western Digital one when the firmware update came out.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 27, 2024 14:04:58 GMT
£350 is really good. I see CEX is giving £230 for base PS5 (disc drive versions), which isn't too bad. Finally watched the DF video on it and, yeah, I can definitely see plenty of noticeable improvements. The comparison between Performance modes and the Pro modes were very noticeable, particularly for FF7 Rebirth (I've not played it and I was surprised how rubbish it looked on a regular PS5). Definitely can now see why some people would want to pick up the new system, although I would still say the price is at least £100 too much (and it should include a disc drive). Something that the chap from Insomniac said did make me think about the general direction. He said that they considered their PS5 games as fidelity first games and then they "made it work" at 60fps. I wonder if in the future we could see a lot of developers not bothering with performance modes and just having a single level of fidelity (with a few tweaks here and there), but it runs at 30 on the PS5 and 60 on the Pro. Not something I would particularly like, as I normally favour the 60fps modes, but I can see from a marketing perspective it being a simple message. They would likely want to be able to show off some fancy ray tracing on the Pro too, but splitting the systems as this one is your 30fps experience and this is your 60fps experience (or 60/120fps for less demanding games) could be a clear distinction between the systems. Also would save developers time on having to create additional modes. Problem is CEX is so hot on discounting literally everything.. there’s a tiny mark. That’s £10 off. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 27, 2024 14:07:52 GMT
Oh for sure they're absolute bastards they'll give nothing and mark up to hell. I wouldn't sell hardware to them at all.
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 27, 2024 14:59:28 GMT
Oh totally. You just go in expecting it to be a B grade. Only time I had an A grade was for Google earpods that came with a new phone and they were literally still in the cellophane.
I'm just lazy and can't be bothered with eBay (and I randomly had my account banned when I last tried to use them). You can definitely get more from eBay, but if I can't palm something off on a friend then I'll normally just go with CEX - in fact, I'm likely going to drop my Vive and Index controllers off with them this weekend.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 27, 2024 15:15:08 GMT
That’s my main worry selling it privately. Who knows if they turn round and say it doesn’t work now. I can’t be bothered with the faff.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 27, 2024 15:27:47 GMT
That’s my main worry selling it privately. Who knows if they turn round and say it doesn’t work now. I can’t be bothered with the faff. I've sold a fair bit privately you really have a lot of protection in that area as the onus is on the person accepting the contract of sale within reason. |
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Post by dfunked on Sept 27, 2024 15:32:34 GMT
With eBay you're fucked, though. They'll always side with the buyer.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 27, 2024 16:00:35 GMT
With eBay you're fucked, though. They'll always side with the buyer. Tbf you can always tell the type of person who's going to try and scam you are the ones who don't ask any questions for a high ticket item or request any specific photos. |
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Post by addyb on Sept 27, 2024 16:53:47 GMT
With eBay you're fucked, though. They'll always side with the buyer. Tbf you can always tell the type of person who's going to try and scam you are the ones who don't ask any questions for a high ticket item or request any specific photos. I sold my PSVR2 on eBay and buyer asked no questions. The day after he received it, he raised a ticket with eBay saying it was faulty and posted a very blurry picture of the lenses and advised that it had scratches. I knew full well it hadn't a mark on it, but eBay refunded him and he returned it to me. No marks on it at all. I just think it was buyers remorse and I got the feeling he'd done this before as he never responded to any of my messages and just played the silent game. |
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Post by mothercruncher on Sept 28, 2024 12:53:15 GMT
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 28, 2024 12:59:14 GMT
Mondays Jim Sterling video pointed out that new Sony consoles never actually do what they say they are supposed to
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Post by Derblington on Sept 28, 2024 13:13:50 GMT
I’m not sure this is a case of it not doing what it’s intended to do. Devs can choose how they deliver features and patches. If Remedy want to deliver higher fidelity modes should they be stopped? It says they’ve improved the 60fps mode too.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 28, 2024 13:48:29 GMT
Could that have felt like an AI written article even more? |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 28, 2024 13:49:20 GMT
Mondays Jim Sterling video pointed out that new Sony consoles never actually do what they say they are supposed to I'm still waiting for my 8K on my base ps5. |
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Post by richardiox on Sept 28, 2024 14:39:34 GMT
Wasn't the whole pitch of the Pro reveal "we don't want gamers to choose between fidelity and framerate. Here's a machine where you dont have to!"
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Post by jeepers on Sept 28, 2024 15:32:57 GMT
You have to understand that Sony and all the devs are just so awfully *busy*.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 28, 2024 18:37:24 GMT
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Post by Frog on Sept 28, 2024 20:11:40 GMT
Have they explained why it's around 935 dollars in the UK?
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Sept 28, 2024 20:21:47 GMT
yeah I've read that horseshit. Not much of a choice if you're upgrading and have a load of disc games. You're just getting fucked over. |
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 28, 2024 20:49:08 GMT
This shouldn't be a huge surprise to anyone. Maxed out Alan Wake 2 on a 4090 requires frame generation to stay over 60fps and the PS5 Pro won't have frame generation. This won't be quite as fully featured as the PC version (it will be standard ray tracing instead of path tracing), but even still you would be looking at much hefty hardware for it to be able to maintain a good frame rate. Far better it is a solid 30fps then an erratic 60fps mode. |
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