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Quake
Aug 20, 2021 23:00:30 GMT
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Post by convercide on Aug 20, 2021 23:00:30 GMT
Yeah absolutely. I ramped the sensitivity up as it was turning through treacle.
Also, bloody hell does the N64 version look like absolute dogshit. I thought they'd at least crisp it up a bit like other N64 ports, but they kept the smeared look of it and its just hideous.
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Aug 20, 2021 23:18:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 23:18:11 GMT
E2 m4 or 5 is now starting to get a bit tricky. Erm. I can't fucking remember any of this, but I like it.
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Quake
Aug 20, 2021 23:59:38 GMT
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Post by simple on Aug 20, 2021 23:59:38 GMT
I got to E1M4 on normal on console and panic shot a grenade straight into a fiend and gibbed myself. It was going extremely well until that point... Console controls aren't terrible, but default settings are definitely in need of some tweaking. I didn’t realise that motion control was on by default and my ranger was like trying to steer a drunk. |
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 8:53:22 GMT
Post by Duffking on Aug 21, 2021 8:53:22 GMT
The acceleration on pad is really bad though. Hope they sort that out.
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 9:23:56 GMT
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Post by convercide on Aug 21, 2021 9:23:56 GMT
If it helps, go to Options, Input and change both Aim X and Aim Y to 10+. Massive difference.
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 9:48:29 GMT
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Post by convercide on Aug 21, 2021 9:48:29 GMT
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 9:57:32 GMT
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Post by simple on Aug 21, 2021 9:57:32 GMT
I downloaded 64 but haven’t had a chance to play yet, so its just a direct emulation then?
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 10:02:49 GMT
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Post by convercide on Aug 21, 2021 10:02:49 GMT
Yeah, pretty much.
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 10:16:32 GMT
Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 21, 2021 10:16:32 GMT
Honestly, N64 graphics are some of the ugliest out there. The only games I still think look good are the two Zelda games and that probably has a lot to do with nostalgia
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 10:25:48 GMT
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Post by convercide on Aug 21, 2021 10:25:48 GMT
Yeah they do not hold up well today at all. Stuff that heavily used gourad shading like SM64 still looks passable, but other games like Turok and Perfect Dark definitely benefitted from their remasters. Can almost guarantee nobody would have cared as much if they'd released looking like they did originally.
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Aug 21, 2021 14:18:26 GMT
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Post by anephric on Aug 21, 2021 14:18:26 GMT
I'm playing on OG Xbox One because I'm a skank and Quake stutters and hitches like an absolute fucker, it's constant. I've turned off everything I think can hurt performance-wise and it's still awful, is there a trick I'm missing? Interestingly, I knew Reznor had done a load of sound FX for this (you can tell) but what I didn't realise is that is all he was originally asked to do and spent pretty much ALL of his available development time doing that and then chucked out the music in a few weeks when Id asked at pretty much the last minute. paulsemel.com/vintage-interview-nine-inch-nails-trent-reznor-2000/ |
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 14:25:21 GMT
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Post by simple on Aug 21, 2021 14:25:21 GMT
Honestly, N64 graphics are some of the ugliest out there. The only games I still think look good are the two Zelda games and that probably has a lot to do with nostalgia As a cool teenager who owned a Playstation from release I always though the N64 was bad and anyone who played it was a stupid baby who only liked baby games for little kids. |
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Aug 21, 2021 15:14:41 GMT
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Post by anephric on Aug 21, 2021 15:14:41 GMT
To answer my own question, turning off dynamic shadows seems to do the trick.
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Aug 21, 2021 16:03:10 GMT
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Post by Vortex on Aug 21, 2021 16:03:10 GMT
I think i will have to play this. Loved it back in the day.
Not played anything quake-y since the iffy, but ok-ish quakw 4 on 360
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Aug 21, 2021 16:24:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 16:24:12 GMT
Quite liked q4 to be honest. But I've always liked ravens games. It bugs me that I've got this and q2 for the 360 and neither are on back compact. Q4 runs like a dog on the 360 as well, would be so nice to play it properly.
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 16:42:46 GMT
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Post by simple on Aug 21, 2021 16:42:46 GMT
I liked Q4 as well. Nothing groundbreaking but it was a fun ride.
Q3Arena remains the highpoint of me playing online games. Don’t do any anymore now.
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Aug 21, 2021 17:37:37 GMT
Post by malek86 on Aug 21, 2021 17:37:37 GMT
I remember (kinda) enjoying Quake 4 back in the early 360 days. Then I tried it again on PC last year, and it was so bad. The shooting, the enemies, the level design, everything was terrible. Rose-tinted glasses doesn't even begin to describe it.
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 17:38:31 GMT
Post by Techno Hippy on Aug 21, 2021 17:38:31 GMT
Had a quick play on this today and for me, it hasn't aged as well as Doom. Cool to have it on console though.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 21, 2021 17:47:58 GMT
I actually prefer Quake 1 to Doom. It's just so much faster (love the feel of Quake), plus jumping and more verticality to the levels. Quake is a really nice sweet spot in level design where they actually sorta kinda look like things but they're still pretty abstract and designed more around being fun to play rather than looking like anything. Before it was all office buildings and warehouses
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 18:17:49 GMT
Post by Tomo on Aug 21, 2021 18:17:49 GMT
Also enjoyed Q4 back in the day. Far from a classic, but good fun nonetheless.
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 21:59:01 GMT
Post by Duffking on Aug 21, 2021 21:59:01 GMT
Had a quick play on this today and for me, it hasn't aged as well as Doom. Cool to have it on console though. Try one of the machinegames expansions, they're more interesting. |
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Quake
Aug 21, 2021 22:20:29 GMT
Post by RadicalRex on Aug 21, 2021 22:20:29 GMT
I actually prefer Quake 1 to Doom. It's just so much faster (love the feel of Quake), plus jumping and more verticality to the levels. Quake is a really nice sweet spot in level design where they actually sorta kinda look like things but they're still pretty abstract and designed more around being fun to play rather than looking like anything. Before it was all office buildings and warehouses Quake 1 is the most surreal of all those games, and I love it for that. I mean, clearly the main contributors for its dark atmosphere are the dark graphics and of course the soundtrack, but I also love how the settings don't make any waking sense. They seemingly randomly blend together whatever is frightening in a hellish maze without any obvious purpose aside from giving you pain. And that is what nightmares do. By being so nonsensical and surreal, Quake 1 is one of the most nightmarish games I know. Boy I missed that in Quake 2 and any later game. |
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Post by simple on Aug 21, 2021 22:33:20 GMT
Agree, love the level design in Quake. It lacks some of the purity of Doom’s gameplay for me but the complexity it adds still feels fresh after 20 years of “realism”.
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Aug 22, 2021 8:03:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 8:03:21 GMT
I'm gobsmacked by how good the second machine games expansion looks, possibly even better than arcane dimensions
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Quake
Aug 22, 2021 11:19:27 GMT
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Post by convercide on Aug 22, 2021 11:19:27 GMT
The console FOV is defaulted to 75. 😑
Banged that up to 100 and it's now much better.
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Aug 22, 2021 11:35:04 GMT
Post by malek86 on Aug 22, 2021 11:35:04 GMT
Dissolution of Eternity is definitely quite a bit harder than usual. Still not much to write home about though, once you get a few weapons you're set for the rest of the episode.
Quake always felt a lot easier than Doom. And Quake 2 was even easier.
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Quake
Aug 22, 2021 15:21:16 GMT
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Post by convercide on Aug 22, 2021 15:21:16 GMT
I think it's due to less and less hit scan Enemies as time went on
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Quake
Aug 22, 2021 15:32:31 GMT
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Post by quadfather on Aug 22, 2021 15:32:31 GMT
Yeah, there's just something special about quake 1. It's just so much darker and bizarre than the others. And the soundtrack obviously sets it miles apart in the "what the fuck is going on" department.
I've been putting it on, getting to a level where I like the specific track and just leave it on while I'm pottering around the house for background noise ffs.
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Aug 22, 2021 16:48:58 GMT
Post by malek86 on Aug 22, 2021 16:48:58 GMT
I think it's due to less and less hit scan Enemies as time went on Probably. It's also the reason why I find Duke Nukem 3D harder than Doom as well. There's so many hitscan enemies in that game. And Blood is just evil (but it gets a little easier later on). When it comes to Quake, the only way to make it really difficult is to starve the player of ammo. And from what I remember of the Dimension of the Past episode from some years ago, I guess MachineGames knew that. |
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Quake
Aug 22, 2021 17:13:01 GMT
Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 22, 2021 17:13:01 GMT
I actually prefer Quake 1 to Doom. It's just so much faster (love the feel of Quake), plus jumping and more verticality to the levels. Quake is a really nice sweet spot in level design where they actually sorta kinda look like things but they're still pretty abstract and designed more around being fun to play rather than looking like anything. Before it was all office buildings and warehouses Quake 1 is the most surreal of all those games, and I love it for that. I mean, clearly the main contributors for its dark atmosphere are the dark graphics and of course the soundtrack, but I also love how the settings don't make any waking sense. They seemingly randomly blend together whatever is frightening in a hellish maze without any obvious purpose aside from giving you pain. And that is what nightmares do. By being so nonsensical and surreal, Quake 1 is one of the most nightmarish games I know. Boy I missed that in Quake 2 and any later game. Yeah, I was interested in seeing where they took a remake if that's what was coming. Quake is a product of its time and it would be really difficult to replicate it. The levels vaguely represent castles and things like that thematically, but twisted labrynthine versions that feel alien and otherworldy. Enemies like the Fiend, Shambler and Vore haven't even got faces. It's a more surreal version of evil compared to Doom's edgey metal Hell.
Quake was going to be a much different game during development but it was taking so long they endeded up just turnng it into another Doom to get it released. Daikatana is probably more of what Romero wanted Quake to be (but good)
As for difficulty, aside from hitscanners, I'd say it's because you have more movement control in Quake over Doom and less enemies to deal with
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