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Post by H-alphaFox on Nov 3, 2021 13:33:39 GMT
Between the climate inaction and the way the pandemic has been broadly handled one thing has become all too clear and that is the only person who will look after yourself is yourself. And governments have certainly shown no desire to do things in the public interest or their own quite frankly.
I really want to sit the next apocalypse out if you don't mind.
So that is what we are working towards hopefully sooner rather than later. We have to lead by example and by lead I guess I'm saying lead our children because maybe they'll be the ones who finally roll some heads to get meaningful change.
Ditch the 9-5 bullshit, buy some land and become as self sustainable as possible. Give back to the land and environment and reforest it and have a small local green business that shows others you can survive and be carbon positive/negative(i dunno which one, but give more than we produce).
I'm not looking to changing the world anymore, just surviving it.
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 3, 2021 13:36:06 GMT
imamazed : Sure, the trouble is that with no-one forcing industries and large polluters to change what they're doing the only recourse we have as individuals is try our hardest. Except that costs money many don't have. If only there was a way we could unite consumers and force their hands. Though of the population a good chunk isn't bothered by climate change. Another chunk has no income to switch to boycotting the cheaper, more polluting, alternatives. And the usual politics, "I won't follow that initiative if the left/right is on board". So I guess any organisation of people that's left will then be so fringe as to attract the insane environmental types (we shouldn't hurt the chakra of butterflies type people) which would alienate even more people... It’s not just the consumers but the workers too. I know most already have it hard enough but trying to encourage/force your employer to do the right thing will help too. |
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Post by zagibu on Nov 3, 2021 14:10:37 GMT
We need the Turians to come over and release the genophage on humanity.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 3, 2021 14:46:42 GMT
I guess we know that our current behaviour as a species means we're not not being invited to the Citadel Council any time soon.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Nov 3, 2021 16:13:41 GMT
Individual changes and choices sadly won't make a huge difference. Until we have legislation and actually force corporations and countries to make a real difference were fucked.
I say that as somebody who tries to live in an environmentally sound way, taking some steps what to lower my carbon footprint etc etc. Whilst that's better than nothing, it's really just pissing into the wind
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Post by stuz359 on Nov 3, 2021 17:21:30 GMT
With this country there is a belief (at least in the tory party) that 'the market' will lead the way.
However, if we look at other significant examples of government investment in R&D for example, we had a significant one not too long ago with the Oxford vaccine, historically you can have a look at the space programme and the Manhattan project.
Imagine if we had thrown the money for trident, HS2 and the 'track and trace' projects at nuclear fusion, or synthetic meat, or battery technology. But no, the market will lead the way, as long as it's profitable.
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Post by malek86 on Nov 4, 2021 8:17:41 GMT
Investing in nuclear fusion would have been difficult at a time when everyone was afraid of nuclear energy. Ironically, those same environmentalist types are now looking to nuclear as a green energy source. If only they had thought about it sooner.
Mind you, I'm under no illusion that nuclear could be used everywhere - some countries would just make safety regulations and waste management a shitshow. That would just be a disaster waiting to happen. So it's hardly a real solution. But still better than nothing?
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Post by dam on Nov 4, 2021 12:11:28 GMT
I thought nuclear fusion had received a fair bit of funding. It's just a bit hard. It seems to have been on the verge of a bog breakthrough for 30 years.
I'm hoping that technology will help us sooner rather than later, due to decreasing costs. I think the shift to EVs will speed up, as battery prices continue to come down. Factory meat - if they get this right, it could take off very quickly, again due to cost. The costs of renewable energy has plummeted, making it the most economically feasible. Nuclear power is looking really expensive next to it. If the same thing happens to fake meat, that will make a big difference.
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Post by Sarfrin on Nov 4, 2021 19:02:59 GMT
I thought nuclear fusion had received a fair bit of funding. It's just a bit hard. It seems to have been on the verge of a bog breakthrough for 30 years. Pooclear fusion |
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Post by Nanocrystal on Nov 4, 2021 21:16:37 GMT
It is the greatest threat we've faced in the history of mankind. The 1000 - 10000 people that were left after one of the ice ages might disagree with your there. As would those who remember the Cuban missile crisis. |
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Post by H-alphaFox on Nov 8, 2021 13:17:18 GMT
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Post by robthehermit on Nov 8, 2021 14:15:16 GMT
On the plus side, most of here will be dead long before most of this shit becomes an issue.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 8, 2021 14:19:48 GMT
Unless there's an afterlife, then we'll have to float around helplessly as ghosts watching the world fall apart while our children suffer
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Post by robthehermit on Nov 8, 2021 14:24:16 GMT
That's their problem.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 8, 2021 14:26:12 GMT
That's the spirit
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Post by dogbot on Nov 8, 2021 14:44:51 GMT
I don't mind trying to do what I can to help, where I can.
However... I think the whole carbon offsetting/credits etc is mostly just an attempt to guilt the general populace into doing something because corporations, governments and countries aren't going to and they're the ones who would actually make a difference.
Asking individual people to change their lifestyles whilst not forcing the large polluters to is a spectacular dodge.
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Post by grey_matters on Nov 8, 2021 15:00:12 GMT
I don't think we get out of it that easily. After all, the corporations are producing the tat for us to consume or the oil for us to burn. The meat and dairy to eat, clothes to wear, TVs to watch, cars to drive. And we do.
Sure, the governments should be putting global restrictions on things and incentives for other things but that will lead to some kind of lower "quality of life" for us all, so they are shitting their pants about it.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 8, 2021 16:28:09 GMT
Sorry, that's not well worded. I actually agree with what you're saying. I was (clumsily) suggesting that this requires more than individual effort, we need a societal sea change.
Unfortunately, I suspect it will be our kids who have to deal with it. Humans being humans, that'll probably start right around the time that the lava is heading to the control room of the last human settlement. If movies, videogames and experience are to be believed...
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Post by zagibu on Nov 8, 2021 17:39:51 GMT
On the plus side, most of here will be dead long before most of this shit becomes an issue. Not really. It is already affecting local systems that were on the edge, which means humans from those areas will be forced to relocate, which means increased migration from south to north. The coming 50 years will bring a massive migration wave due to climate change, and this will affect us here in the north quite noticeably. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 8, 2021 17:41:31 GMT
I sometimes get the feeling rob has given up and doesn't care about anything anymore
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Post by anephric on Nov 8, 2021 17:58:40 GMT
I do a lot of work with civils, geotech and the like and climate change is already fucking us quite a lot, in terms of infrastructure protection. Building massive housing estates everywhere doesn't help either.
I was out only last Friday with the Environment Agency swapping sob stories about lack of funding for big capex schemes.
Flooding, if it isn't already obvious, is going to become much harder to do anything about without a huge amount of investment.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2021 18:39:55 GMT
I do a lot of work with civils, geotech and the like and climate change is already fucking us quite a lot, in terms of infrastructure protection. Building massive housing estates everywhere doesn't help either. I was out only last Friday with the Environment Agency swapping sob stories about lack of funding for big capex schemes. Flooding, if it isn't already obvious, is going to become much harder to do anything about without a huge amount of investment. I helped design and build their Oracle system for enforcing water licencing and where people can build. That was about 20 years ago (FGAC had only just come in) and even back then they were poverty stricken. |
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Post by Resident Knievel on Nov 8, 2021 23:32:28 GMT
On the plus side, most of here will be dead long before most of this shit becomes an issue. Not really. It is already affecting local systems that were on the edge, which means humans from those areas will be forced to relocate, which means increased migration from south to north. The coming 50 years will bring a massive migration wave due to climate change, and this will affect us here in the north quite noticeably. Yup, climate change has already had a devastating effect on Syria's agriculture which was a major catalyst for the recent political crisis and mass migration in the region. |
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 28, 2022 11:42:41 GMT
Not looking good, is it?
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Post by sport✅ on Mar 28, 2022 11:50:38 GMT
Yup, definitely feels a lot lighter in the evenings now. Could be increased solar activity.
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Post by Rich on Mar 28, 2022 12:11:49 GMT
Lol
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Post by Sarfrin on Mar 28, 2022 15:03:41 GMT
Both poles 30-40C above normal. Yeah, we're fucked. |
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 28, 2022 15:14:57 GMT
Both poles 30-40C above normal. Yeah, we're fucked. Yep, huge antarctic ice shelf just collapsed as well. Fucked. |
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Post by geefe on Mar 31, 2022 6:43:59 GMT
On Monday I was able to sit in the garden and enjoy the sunshine in shorts.
Today, I have woken up to snow and am layered up.
But, nope, not climate change.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 31, 2022 7:03:39 GMT
Are you sure
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