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Post by drhcnip on Jan 9, 2022 22:18:48 GMT
it's horribly frustrating and very challenging, pal - one of my biggest worries and concerns is the impact my physical and mental health is having on my daughter, who's already had to witness one parent slowly deteriorate in front of her and die - responsibility and guilt weigh very heavily upon me, both for this and for things i feel i could have done better for my wife...so unhelpful when these are the tools we use to batter ourselves more with, thereby worsening the situation...that's where the spiral spins forever downwards
hopefully, you can find a path that will work for you and help you heal - i hope things go well tomorrow...a light at the end of the tunnel is what we need to try and work towards - i just feel everything then becomes an obstacle in my way and, when things go wrong, that's when the catastrophising kicks in...just found out on friday that the mental health team whose care i was under are unable to complete one of the medical reports for my retirement application, so looks like i'm going to have to source a private referral...that then makes me feel like it's a hopeless and worthless cause and then i beat myself up that i'm taking the wrong decisions...i just know there's no way i can work in my mental and physical state
always here via pm if you need to unload as well - i think we can help each other through what we're dealing with...to have people that can empathise as well as sympathise is crucial...i have a good support network but, apart from my daughter, i have no-one who truly understands 'rock bottom'
all the best
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2022 22:27:27 GMT
Thanks Dr. Deleted my post as I felt people have probably heard enough of my bleating about first world problems. Just feel ashamed I can't just be normal and not panic. I wish I could just stop feeling like this.
Thanks for your words. You've gone through a hell of a lot and you're still there for your daughter, so don't knock yourself. She doesn't need perfect, she needs you. Although I know catastrophising is common, you will get there, as will I.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 9, 2022 22:36:58 GMT
Post as much as you want or need, that’s what this thread is for. Downplaying your own mental health struggles is just as bad as ignoring them.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jan 9, 2022 22:40:46 GMT
What Gremmi said. Don't be hard on yourself, you can't be any harder on yourself than I am on me.
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Post by Danno on Jan 9, 2022 22:40:47 GMT
Post as much as you want or need, that’s what this thread is for. Downplaying your own mental health struggles is just as bad as ignoring them. T.H.I.S.
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Post by Danno on Jan 9, 2022 22:45:45 GMT
So 13 days without alcohol and still miserable as fuck. Sleep is much much better. 2 hours less a night but much better. 1:30am to 8am turns out to be my natural rhythm. No longer waking up every hour or so which is pretty amazing for me. Still got the anxiety, very low level but flares up for no reason at all. Yesterday suddenly had a whole day thinking I was dying. Diazapam didn't do much, but maybe got me through it. Just gutted I needed it, I was hoping after a week I would start improving, but no change really. On the diazapam... 2mg tablets I have taken 7 over the 13 days. None for 5 days or so then yesterday needed 2 during the day. I really was hoping they would just be a alcohol withdrawal thing, but gutted I still need to carry. On the plus side the prescribe sleeping tablets and beta blockers I haven't touched. Anyone else suffered a long time coming off of the beer? I just feel drained, foggy and lazy. Can't force myself to gym and the anxiety and panic attacks that I had while drinking haven't really abated much. On the plus side, I have a fairly definite goal. 6kg and then will let myself have a beer again. And go back to my pre lockdown drinking which was acceptable. Just want to feel normal again sometime. Stick at it dude. It's awful, but it'll be worth it once your gaba levels settle down. Are you taking vitamins and eating well? If nothing else a vitamin B complex should help a bit - booze starves your body of the stuff. You can take a big-ish dose as you'll excrete any excess ( with the side effect of making the loo smell of marmite when you pee) Are you getting treated for the anx and depression at the same time?
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Post by drhcnip on Jan 9, 2022 22:57:50 GMT
Post as much as you want or need, that’s what this thread is for. Downplaying your own mental health struggles is just as bad as ignoring them. this, all of this, as they say it's all relative - one person's 'first world problems' are another person's catastrophe - i count this thread as one of the few places i can unload without judgement (one knobhead aside) and never, ever feel ashamed for how you're feeling - as i say, if you need to unload but don't feel happy doing so in public, please feel free to pm me
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Post by Danno on Jan 10, 2022 0:00:37 GMT
Post as much as you want or need, that’s what this thread is for. Downplaying your own mental health struggles is just as bad as ignoring them. this, all of this, as they say it's all relative - one person's 'first world problems' are another person's catastrophe - i count this thread as one of the few places i can unload without judgement (one knobhead aside) and never, ever feel ashamed for how you're feeling - as i say, if you need to unload but don't feel happy doing so in public, please feel free to pm me This as well. If you'd prefer an actual chat I'd be more than happy to give you my Discord
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Post by Danno on Jan 10, 2022 0:04:57 GMT
What Gremmi said. Don't be hard on yourself, you can't be any harder on yourself than I am on me. If you think you hate me, get the fuck in line because there are 17 personalities that called dibs when I was 13 years old. You wait your turn and don't be disappointed when you get to the front of the queue. It was inevitable (Not aimed at you Jambo, i know you love me like a son)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 7:56:32 GMT
Thanks. Just panicking a bit as I don't want to let my family down. They depend on me.
I just want to be back to how I was, when my body didn't feel like I was stepping off a cliff all the time and where I don't want to hide from things. I can't stop the worrying. Even now, I can hear a sound that might or might not be dripping water, so my brain is catastrophising about it and at the same time it's panicking about this interview. There's a bit of me in there that's keeping it together and that knows it's an over active amygdala and that it will pass, but it's hard
Pills have not worked unfortunately (ADs do nothing positive for me and beta blockers stop my breathing (due to my asthma). I'm supposed to have had proper counseling years ago but NHS cutbacks stopped that. I had some emergency counseling in the past and was nearly admitted on a psych ward. I paid for counseling twice myself, though money is tight, but I was unfortunate with the counselors.
I manage to keep together with mindfulness and exercise usually, but I think with the job situation, the last couple of years and how unsettling everything has been, coupled with how old I look in the mirror now, it's just a bit hard.
Last night one of my aloof cats could tell I wasn't in a good place and he curled up next to me. They don't usually do that unless we need it. That helped and he slept against me all night which helped too.
Right. I need a drink (no caffeine) and to get some breakfast. I've got lots of interest from recruiters. I've got a loving and supportive family (they know about my problems I was very honest with my wife when we met) and it seems like I've got this place. Thanks. I'll get there. To be honest, I'm amazed I'm still going, I look so damn old.
Right, thanks guys. Waking (fearfully) and refreshing this page and seeing comments and that they were positive was a great start. I've even forgotten that dripping noise.
I wish my brain would calm down. I'm good at what I do and I'm getting lots of interest in a busy market and I've 4 months to get a job and things are looking positive to date. But still I'm like someone whose just quit a 20 cup of coffee a day addiction.
I'll be better at 1pm (interview will be done and meeting with CTO will be over). I'll give myself a treat of some kind when I get there. Either a quick bath or kill some Greeks, though I suspect my wife will want me to go for a walk.
Right, game face on.
Hope you guys are doing okay. I try to help here and elsewhere on the site. I know I've not got the answers or I'd not be where I am, but I try and help. Sometimes I think I come over as an opinionated self important prick, but that's not me. I'm still the little 5 year old who used to run through the long grasses in Brunei and that kid is wondering how much longer he can keep pretending he's a grown up before someone notices! 🙂
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Post by Danno on Jan 10, 2022 9:24:53 GMT
I'm still the little 5 year old who used to run through the long grasses in Brunei and that kid is wondering how much longer he can keep pretending he's a grown up before someone notices! 🙂 Just like Theresa May, and she made it to Prime Minister! Go nail that interview
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 11:26:24 GMT
I long ago stopped pretending to be a grown up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 12:47:07 GMT
And relax...for a bit anyway. Interview completed and meeting with CTO completed. Did the best I could and was able to keep the anxiety at bay. Off for a walk. Thanks guys. It helped.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 12:52:01 GMT
Thanks Dr. Deleted my post as I felt people have probably heard enough of my bleating about first world problems. I'm going to batter you. Stop thinking you're being a burden. You need to post it all. It's part of your process and I think it helps you to put things down where you can look at it. Writing things down and getting them out your head is actually a very constructive thing to do. It makes all the noise in your head into something tangible that you can then look at from a new angle, and quite often deal with in a more logical manner. The plus side about doing that here, is that you can also let others see it objectively and offer support as well, which is a bonus on top. At the very least, writing it down is a GOOD thing. Enjoy your walk, glad the anxiety inducing part of your day is over and I'm sure you were brilliant.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 13:41:00 GMT
Yeah thanks Wunty, point noted and I'm getting there. I've been quite a lot worse than I normally am over the last week, so its hard to remember everything when I am like that (I was Samaritans / Crisis Team territory). My brain gets very "woe is me, I'm a burden" and it is very hard to think that isn't the case. I don't like being the centre of attention (I'm quite shy in real life... how the hell I became a PM I don't know). I got through it though.
I was good on Friday's interview and I think I did more of the same. It depends what they (especially the new guy) are looking for. If they wanted the hard facts and processes, then they didn't ask those questions and I didn't give those answers. I had them laughing and I think I could relate to and work with them (though neither had heard of a Stadia, one at least had bought a PS5 for Christmas for his kids). At times, I was enjoying the interview. I'll see. If its a no, then I'll get onto the next lot. I've a dozen in my in box I need to reply to, but I'm holding off to see what this place says as I'm not going to apply for loads and get too much to handle in.
Right, I need food and I need to collapse. I probably need to kill some greeks, but that might have to wait as I also need to do some work. Curse this working for a living lark. I think today is my last day of NetFlix, so I might see if there's something very short on there I can switch off to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 20:55:50 GMT
Got my contract through, which is a good thing, but my anxiety kicked in and replayed losing the offer last year and and... Then I worried about the many clauses in the contract and that various benefits can be withdrawn by the providing companies (health care, life insurance etc) and I worried that my anxiety and depression will stop me getting them. I then worried that hybrid working would actually be the days in the office that said and my line manager is someone different to who I expected.
I'm tired though and I know that in the light of the morning I'll feel better and that this is my brain just doing what it does which is panic. Doesn't make it easier now though. I'll meditate and hopefully that will help.
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Post by Sarfrin on Jan 18, 2022 21:08:22 GMT
Before Christmas you were worried you wouldn't get a job, so at least these are worries about a good outcome from the previous worry.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 21:44:15 GMT
Yep I know. I'm posting more for that reason. I know my anxiety makes no sense. It's just my brain doing it's thing rather than any logical reason. Getting the contract through its a good thing, but still my brain looks for the cracks.
I'll get it fixed with time.
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Post by Danno on Jan 18, 2022 21:44:57 GMT
Got my contract through, which is a good thing, but my anxiety kicked in and replayed losing the offer last year and and... Then I worried about the many clauses in the contract and that various benefits can be withdrawn by the providing companies (health care, life insurance etc) and I worried that my anxiety and depression will stop me getting them. I then worried that hybrid working would actually be the days in the office that said and my line manager is someone different to who I expected. I'm tired though and I know that in the light of the morning I'll feel better and that this is my brain just doing what it does which is panic. Doesn't make it easier now though. I'll meditate and hopefully that will help. You're UK based aye? All you really need is the pay and the pension
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 21:46:45 GMT
Yep I'm UK based and yep, that's what my ever suffering wife said. She keeps me sane (ish).
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Post by zephro on Jan 18, 2022 22:35:15 GMT
Life insurance is pretty important if you've got a mortgage though.
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Post by Danno on Jan 18, 2022 22:38:09 GMT
Life insurance is pretty important if you've got a mortgage though. usually comes as part of the mortgage deal and failing that, Death in Service (so make damn sure to conk on on the clock)
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Post by drhcnip on Jan 18, 2022 22:53:33 GMT
Life insurance is pretty important if you've got a mortgage though. yup - this is one of the things that has fucked me over
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 23:00:54 GMT
Yep I know. I'm posting more for that reason. I know my anxiety makes no sense. It's just my brain doing it's thing rather than any logical reason. Getting the contract through its a good thing, but still my brain looks for the cracks. I'll get it fixed with time. Awesome news. Genuinely happy for you and as a fellow anxiety sufferer I know how stupid brain farts work. So stress away, but objectively it is a good step. On my side, 23 days I think sober now. Brain seems to be starting to adjust, panic attacks subsiding, and while I don't feel great I am not anxious 24/7, so getting there.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 18, 2022 23:07:00 GMT
A good way to think of anxiety and instrusive thoughts is as a tug o war. The more you fight it, the more your anxiety fights back and the harder it becomes for you. You can only win by letting go of the rope
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2022 15:01:09 GMT
So 8 days without needing diazapam, no panic attacks etc so feeling better. So decided to visit my brother and niece/nephew for a few days. 45 minutes on the train and full anxiety kicks in, am a mess and had to get off the train in a village middle of fucking nowhere. Now I am fucked, can't force myself to get back on a train and have no clue what to do.
I fucking hate my life. I thought after a month sober and being healthy I would be getting better, but now I have gone from not being able to get on transcontinental flights, to not being able to do a fucking 2 hour train trip.
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Post by nexus6 on Jan 23, 2022 15:30:56 GMT
So 8 days without needing diazapam, no panic attacks etc so feeling better. So decided to visit my brother and niece/nephew for a few days. 45 minutes on the train and full anxiety kicks in, am a mess and had to get off the train in a village middle of fucking nowhere. Now I am fucked, can't force myself to get back on a train and have no clue what to do. I fucking hate my life. I thought after a month sober and being healthy I would be getting better, but now I have gone from not being able to get on transcontinental flights, to not being able to do a fucking 2 hour train trip. 2hr train trip/intercontinental flight makes no difference - if it’s tough it’s tough. It could be a 10 minute lift in a car for some people. You felt well enough to try and at the moment it didn’t work out - no worries. Now, if you’re still somewhere strange and need help don’t hesitate to call either your family or the police/ambulance. Don’t struggle out there alone. Keep us posted
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2022 15:34:20 GMT
@ryands Was there something specific that kicked off the panic attack at the 45 minute mark or had it been building since you got on?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2022 16:33:21 GMT
Cheers chaps. Got my brother to pick me up. Was 100% fine for the hour while waiting then kicked off immediately knowing I have a 90 minute car journey, so 15 minutes of misery until get chatting properly and am fine now.
On plus side, I am going down to see family for the week. Downside, I thought I may be improving but apparently not
Trigger is definitely panicking about panicking. So sitting going it is 25 minutes before next train stop, what if I have a panic attack mid way? That would suck. Oh fuck!
Same on my motorbike. Will jump back on now and ride around town for an hour, find a small stretch of 70mph and quickly do a tonne to get the cobwebs off and feel fine and great. The moment I get near a motorway junction and realise if I go on then I may have 20 minutes between junction... then I panic that I may have a panic attack...
6 months ago I was happily doing 1000 mile Road trips.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2022 16:41:18 GMT
So it's the thought of panicking about being trapped in whatever vehicle you're on that's setting you off. Is there any distraction techniques you could try? It's not something I know much about, but starting on public transport, any specific music or podcasts etc you could put on that would try and take your mind off the journey? That sounds really stressful and I can see how it can start to control your life, but there will be a way you can manage it and have it diminish, you just need to find out what that is.
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