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Post by Danno on Jun 11, 2024 21:52:57 GMT
Sounds familiar in some ways. Can message me, whenever, if you want
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Post by cubby on Jun 11, 2024 21:55:45 GMT
Cheers. Oh she's also losing her rag with the dogs now, great.
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Post by Dougs on Jun 11, 2024 22:03:19 GMT
Tomorrow is another day. Daily stresses always seem worse at night and when tired and ratty.
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Post by Danno on Jun 11, 2024 22:09:29 GMT
Is there any mileage in a "hey what's wrong?" sort of conversation? It sort of sounds like this isn't entirely ordinary behaviour
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Post by zisssou on Jul 11, 2024 13:38:12 GMT
I don't think anything prepares you for losing your parents. I have been up and down with my mental health for many years, and somewhat leaned on my parents to give me a kick up the arse, now they're gone it feels very much like I'm kicking myself up the arse. I'm lucky in that I have an understanding partner to help me out, as my siblings all live abroad.. Sometimes I wonder how I've managed to sort some of my mums house out, start the process of probate and selling the house. Suppose it 'helps' I feel somewhat numb to it all at the moment. Just on autopilot. And distracting myself by buying shit I don't need..
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Post by Dougs on Jul 11, 2024 14:52:29 GMT
Sorry for your loss mate. It's hard, really hard. The admin gives a focus I found, at least initially. Then it just becomes a ballache. Even now, a year on, I spend lots of time fending off the vultures. It does get wearing. Key is looking after yourself - making time for things you want to do etc.
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Post by zisssou on Jul 11, 2024 15:06:11 GMT
Thanks man. Vultures as in family? or utility people? My family thus far have been pretty decent, and haven't ransacked the house, other than what we agreed they could take... helps them being abroad and can't take everything in a suitcase.
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Post by Dougs on Jul 11, 2024 15:10:53 GMT
Utilities and local authority for outstanding care home fees. And now council tax. They haven't answered my question of whether that can be recovered from the estate once sold - I don't have a spare few hundred quid a month to cover it.
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Post by zisssou on Jul 12, 2024 8:32:30 GMT
The gas company were the only one asking money up front, whereas the others said just wait until it's sold. I think council tax is exempt. "If the owner or tenant of a property passes away, the property will be exempt from Council Tax. This exemption will apply until probate is granted or letters of administration are obtained."
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Post by quadfather on Jul 12, 2024 10:11:50 GMT
Keep at it zisssou. Like dougs says, it's really hard and no one has a manual to give you so you can read it and understand what to do. You need to go through it and see how you get on Sounds harsh, but that's because it is. However, you've just written down how you've already done stuff on autopilot so just keep doing what you're doing. Your mind is absolutely fucking topsy turvy at the moment and I imagine it feels like you're at 95% capacity all the time, sound familiar? But at the same time, your mind is processing everything it needs to, to get you back on your feet, mentally. So the important things to always remember when you're having a mare, is a) this is *normal*, and b) this is also temporary. And treat yourself to stuff. Don't lock yourself away and beat yourself up all the time. Play a game. Try to enjoy it. Your mind will complain saying there's a million things to do, but just focus on what you can do and leave the stuff you can't. It'll all get worked out.
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Post by zisssou on Jul 12, 2024 10:52:13 GMT
Good advice there! thanks man.
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Post by quadfather on Jul 12, 2024 11:14:35 GMT
When I say temporary, I mean the really difficult times will start to space out over time, so you experience them less often, and the rawness fades so you're better equipped to deal with them.
But it's important to note that grief never goes away. You'll have it now for the rest of your life.
The whole thing I've found is to be able to accept the new reality of not having your parents around anymore, and that can be very hard because your brain will always try and 'bargain' somehow in order to 'fix the situation'.
This is what I tried to do at first and it made things ten times worse. After visiting a counsellor for a while, the penny finally dropped that there isn't anything to fix and that I need to accept what's happened. It was only then that I could move on from it and start creating new memories with other people, whilst having the memories (good and bad/sad) of my parents.
So while it never goes away, you will eventually be able to live with it and understand it.
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Post by zisssou on Jul 12, 2024 13:32:04 GMT
My dad was pretty much my go to for anything practical, like buying a car, house, DIY etc. And mum more for the emotional lean on for advice. After he passed in 2019 I found that a real struggle to get stuff done in the house, and I was asking friends for advice etc. But yeah over time I managed to figure out things.
Then I had to sort a lot for mum out, as dad did all the accounts/bills/insurance/house stuff. It was kind of like having another house and our new normal. I don't think anything prepares you for taking on that sort of thing, but you do it because it's your mum and you want to help.
It is really hard to come to terms with not having parents there. My brain sometimes goes.. ah mum would like that, or I should take a picture and show her. And dad whenever the football or f1 is on, that sometimes brings back floods of memories. I know in time it'll get better and I'll feel less emotional. Just 38 years old and parents are gone.. it just seems too young.
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Post by Dougs on Jul 12, 2024 13:32:37 GMT
The gas company were the only one asking money up front, whereas the others said just wait until it's sold. I think council tax is exempt. "If the owner or tenant of a property passes away, the property will be exempt from Council Tax. This exemption will apply until probate is granted or letters of administration are obtained." You get some grace for sure - but amazing how quickly that comes around. Probate was granted in Jan for my mum's estate, so CT is now payable from this month. I've asked the legal contact I have if it can be deferred.
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Post by Dougs on Jul 12, 2024 13:41:15 GMT
I didn't want to like that but a lot of what you said there resonated. It was the same for me. My dad died 13 years ago but I still grieve all the time for him. Had a moment the other day after the England game - and I think it was because I'd shared that experience with my son but couldn't do the same with him. As quad says, it doesn't go away but it does get easier. And it does take a long time and you need to be kind to yourself and allow yourself to grieve.
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Post by zisssou on Jul 12, 2024 13:51:07 GMT
Yeah you create new memories, like you did with your son. Those sort of ones he'll remember forever, much like we both did with our dads over the years. We went to a handful of games over the years, and they were mostly miserable because we lost. I have a great memory with my mum and my partner watching the Arsenal Chelsea final over covid times. Mum just always took interest in what I was into. I've got a great print of the Emirates sitting in front of me, where she found at an art show many years ago.
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Post by quadfather on Jul 12, 2024 14:58:07 GMT
My dad was pretty much my go to for anything practical, like buying a car, house, DIY etc. And mum more for the emotional lean on for advice. After he passed in 2019 I found that a real struggle to get stuff done in the house, and I was asking friends for advice etc. But yeah over time I managed to figure out things. Then I had to sort a lot for mum out, as dad did all the accounts/bills/insurance/house stuff. It was kind of like having another house and our new normal. I don't think anything prepares you for taking on that sort of thing, but you do it because it's your mum and you want to help. It is really hard to come to terms with not having parents there. My brain sometimes goes.. ah mum would like that, or I should take a picture and show her. And dad whenever the football or f1 is on, that sometimes brings back floods of memories. I know in time it'll get better and I'll feel less emotional. Just 38 years old and parents are gone.. it just seems too young. Yes, it's awful, I know. It can feel overwhelming a lot of the time especially if you are younger (I was 44), but then again, when is it a good time for this to happen? I know what you mean about, "I'll show Dad that, he'll know" etc. It kind of changes in due course and it develops into more memory based methods. If I see something now, I automatically say without thinking, "Dad would have liked that". But again, this is normal - you've had 38 years of your brain being 100% knowing they are there. It takes time for the mind to adjust. But it will.
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Post by quadfather on Jul 12, 2024 15:03:42 GMT
Yeah you create new memories, like you did with your son. Those sort of ones he'll remember forever, much like we both did with our dads over the years. We went to a handful of games over the years, and they were mostly miserable because we lost. I have a great memory with my mum and my partner watching the Arsenal Chelsea final over covid times. Mum just always took interest in what I was into. I've got a great print of the Emirates sitting in front of me, where she found at an art show many years ago. This is also something that changes too. Or rather develops. You have these memories now of things you have done with them, and probably discussed them with them as well. Now that you can't discuss it with them anymore, they become vital memories and you'll really invest in them. Invest is a weird word to say, but I can't think of a better one at the minute, but I have some scrap paperwork of my dads, along with some letters from fucking years (1920's and 1930's), along with stuff from my Mum, and they are extremely valuable now. Not in hugely sad way, although looking at them does make me sad now and again, but in a really appreciative way. The way you only can when they've gone. I only have to look at certain formations of clouds sometimes as my Dad used to be a part time meteorologist and it gives me peace looking at the formations when they appear. See also, standing by the sea etc. All these things will start to come out of the woodwork, and I say embrace them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 19:12:58 GMT
On the relationship problems thing, seemingly running into a bit of it myself at the moment. Wondering whether a thread might be helpful but it sometimes can result in reinforcing negative opinions I think.
Anyway it always comes after you’ve taken out payment agreements for TVs, washing machines and all sorts in your f*cking name doesn’t it.
Constantly rowing at the moment about approaches to parenting and now money. It’s fucking great. The arguments are then followed usually by about two days of basically barely speaking. Not helping that the kid basically seems to hate me at the moment too - maybe I’m the problem.
I in no way wish to leave my relationship or surrogate child but if this is my lot in life now, it’s just going to do me in and won’t be good for anybody in the house. But I’d be fucked financially trying to set up on my own too, and they’d be fucked financially without me.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Jul 12, 2024 19:18:39 GMT
Amen brother!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 20:50:49 GMT
Well that’s a bit of a surprise. She said she was going for a shower and I probably a bit cuntily made the classic ‘good well off you fuck and maybe think about what you’ve done’ type remark.
Anyway she's only come down and admitted that I’ve basically staged an intervention by forcing the issue, and for her to face some home truths - and the thing I was trying to suggest (I.e a practical plan to catch up on savings for our holiday, which I’m 75% up on) has now been put into place.
There’s still an unresolved argument about our girl’s sleeping problem, which we constantly argue over, with her solution being to pretend it doesn’t exist because she thinks the school hols will make it disappear (if they do this will be kicking the can down the road IMO) but a compromise has been agreed on that too in that we will talk about it seriously if/when it occurs during said holidays. We’ll see.
Anyway some passive aggressive sarcastic jokes have been passed back and forth to get the dregs of resentment out and it feels like a bit of a fresh start.
Sorry if this seems a bit much/rich to put in an actual depression thread - I’ve been holding onto it for a good few weeks though so life has been a bummer at this time though. There’s also the thing of your problems looking small and cunty compared to those of others. Feel like a bit of a weight has lifted, but there’s always that thing after these types of times and arguments that some barbs have been thrown both ways that can never be taken back.
It’s fucking hard existing with others isn’t it.
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Post by Dougs on Jul 12, 2024 22:57:57 GMT
Communication, communication, communication. There's no other way through these tough conversations. A fresh start sounds good, but one where you both should open up more. Especially about things like the future/money etc. Handling issues with your step-daughter is trickier - but you've got to be able to say what you think in a non-judgmental way. Very little advice to offer other than that though. Hang in there!
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Post by Danno on Jul 12, 2024 23:24:58 GMT
Communication, communication, communication. There's no other way through these tough conversations. A fresh start sounds good, but one where you both should open up more. Especially about things like the future/money etc. Handling issues with your step-daughter is trickier - but you've got to be able to say what you think in a non-judgmental way. Very little advice to offer other than that though. Hang in there! This. I've blown it by not communicating and it will stay with me to the grave.
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Post by rawshark on Jul 13, 2024 0:38:42 GMT
Communication, communication, communication. There's no other way through these tough conversations. A fresh start sounds good, but one where you both should open up more. Especially about things like the future/money etc. Handling issues with your step-daughter is trickier - but you've got to be able to say what you think in a non-judgmental way. Very little advice to offer other than that though. Hang in there! This. I've blown it by not communicating and it will stay with me to the grave. Don’t take things to the grave, Danno brah. Sometimes things just run their course. We might not want to realise that but it’s the way.
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Post by Dougs on Jul 13, 2024 5:52:50 GMT
Doesn't mean everything is fixable of course. But gives you a better chance if addressing issues early on if you discuss it and can find a solution. And of course it needs both parties to be open too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2024 7:26:41 GMT
That’s always the issue with me. Other half will have a defensive attitude to such discussions and feel under attack. I can either match that energy which is an automatic escalation or do what I do and keep my voice at a level which is seen somehow as a challenge and has the same effect 🤣
We talked last night about being mindful that our daughter hears this and it’s normalised too. Not good.
Other half is an amazing person in all other aspects. She just has this one thing IMO. She needs to stay friends though as she’s having her gall bladder out very soon and will need looking after lol.
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Post by rawshark on Jul 18, 2024 9:42:05 GMT
It's not normal to book a Friday off to spend with your partner and her in-laws and feeling dread to the point of self-sabotage, is it?
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Post by ekz on Jul 22, 2024 1:34:06 GMT
Its so bad dude. And I can't shake the gnawing feeling that it's my own fault.
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Post by Danno on Jul 24, 2024 21:51:41 GMT
Its so bad dude. And I can't shake the gnawing feeling that it's my own fault. You alright man?
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