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Post by Danno on Sept 30, 2023 21:43:14 GMT
Listen to AA, especially that last paragraph
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Post by wunty on Sept 30, 2023 21:56:45 GMT
Yeah. Makes a lot of sense.
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Post by Danno on Sept 30, 2023 22:03:04 GMT
Yeah. Makes a lot of sense. Get it over and done with dude, you deserve a happier head
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Post by damagedinc on Oct 24, 2023 17:40:26 GMT
Had a review with my doctor today after my three weeks of headaches. Believed to be a "tension" headache. Anyway they've decided to take me off sertraline. Been on it since 2016 and now on 200mg a day which is highest it can go really.
My anxiety is through the roof and having the odd panic attack. Going to be slowly coming off sertaline and onto mirtazapine.
Just wondering if anyone here have had any experiences with that one.
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Post by minimatt on Oct 24, 2023 17:59:37 GMT
Don't want to put you off trying to find something that works for you but personally that had a quite wild hallucination effect although that was in combination with other meds so pinch of salt & all that.
And again, don't want to put you off trying, everyone is different etc but it's used as an appetite stimulant in veterinary medicine so if you find you suddenly have the appetite of a horse...
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Post by damagedinc on Oct 24, 2023 19:09:13 GMT
Yeah heard about the weight thing. Was taking amitriptyline for my headaches which also has a similar effect.
Appetite sky rocketed. I'm aware of it so guess just need to watch what I eat. It will be the food not the pills that make you fat. Just depends on how hungry it makes me feel lol
Found the sertraline just wasn't doing anything. Nothing positive anyway. Guess I'll see in 6 weeks.
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Post by drhcnip on Oct 24, 2023 23:37:35 GMT
Had a review with my doctor today after my three weeks of headaches. Believed to be a "tension" headache. Anyway they've decided to take me off sertraline. Been on it since 2016 and now on 200mg a day which is highest it can go really. My anxiety is through the roof and having the odd panic attack. Going to be slowly coming off sertaline and onto mirtazapine. Just wondering if anyone here have had any experiences with that one. Did the same, went from 200 sertraline to mirtazapine after many years on the former…didn’t have much of an impact, to be honest, and I was swiftly moved to escitalopram, which seems better, now taking that in combination with lovepramine and aripiprazole
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Post by rawshark on Oct 25, 2023 7:02:12 GMT
All I can say is I fucking hated Sertraline. Actually made my insomnia worse and did extremely weird things to my Professor Oak. Although to be fair I never found a medication that really worked for me.
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Post by Danno on Oct 25, 2023 22:22:10 GMT
Mirtazipine sent me to sleep for 12 hours+ and left me groggy after that, but it kept the demons away.
Hated sertraline, I never got over the nausea or the insomnia.
All these damn pills hit different people differently.
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Post by damagedinc on Oct 26, 2023 7:11:37 GMT
Yeah had similar with the amitriptyline, quite liked it tbh and could work round it to feel more awake in morning by taking it earlier in the evening etc.
Thanks for getting back to me everyone. Guess I'll just have to see where I am at in 6 weeks. Everyone seems to react differently.
I've been on sertraline for so long and I'll be pissed off with myself if what I thought was me being groggy and lethargic was actually the pills.
Apprehensive and excited that maybe I'll improve with the change, realistic though that it may take a while and even maybe another medication.
Will let you know how I get on.
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Post by damagedinc on Nov 3, 2023 9:47:14 GMT
Well fuck, lowering the dose of sertraline has hit me like a sledge hammer. Was on 200 and after a couple of weeks? Now on 100.
My moods when low are super low, almost suicidal (very clear here, thoughts but never more than that) so called GP she's said to take a bit longer bringing the dose down.
Got the new meds here ready but need to cross taper it when the sertraline is lower. Now making me think that I wasn't too bad on the sertraline because this sucks!
Luckily my wife is very supportive but she's finding it tough I can tell.
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Post by Nanocrystal on Nov 3, 2023 10:13:59 GMT
Mrs Nano is going through depression at the moment after a bad work situation. She's seeing a counselor and a psychiatrist, and is on meds. It's been going on for around 10 months now. Yesterday she asked me to hide the box cutter from my toolbox and to not tell her where I put it, which freaked me the fuck out quite honestly! Anyone else here caring for a loved one having these kinds of thoughts? Been reading some websites but would appreciate any advice/suggestions from you guys at this point. I read this thread every so often but have been lucky enough to have never experienced these issues myself to this point (touch wood) so this is all new to me.
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Post by damagedinc on Nov 3, 2023 12:21:05 GMT
That sounds quite extreme! Hope she finds something that works for her.
For me personally if I am in one of my "funks" talking just makes it worse. I find sometimes the things that arnt said mean the most. Whether it's just a hug. Being brought a cup of tea etc etc.
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Post by damagedinc on Nov 9, 2023 11:04:33 GMT
Well fucking hell I'm in a right mess now.
Lowered the sertraline and was in a state, doc told me to start mirtzapine. I may aswell not bother. All I want to do is sleep, can't keep my eyes open. I'm also eating an obscene amount, there is no ceiling I geniunly feel I could just eat and eat and never get full.
Now I'm in complete medication limbo. The doc is reading off a sheet anyone can see online. Just starting to feel all these meds make everything worse. Seriously considering hiding away for 2 weeks going cold turkey. Ride the withdrawals and then see where I'm at.
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Post by wunty on Nov 9, 2023 11:43:15 GMT
Fuck man. Is there another doc you can see? Anyone else you can get referred to?
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Post by Garfy on Nov 10, 2023 13:27:02 GMT
At my dad's wake. Liverpudlian cousins buying me drinks. I'm pissed At my uncles wake. His sons (the liverpudlian cousins) have paid for an open bar so I can't return the favour. All I can do is honour their request and get bladdered 😆
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Post by drhcnip on Nov 10, 2023 13:47:50 GMT
Well fucking hell I'm in a right mess now. Lowered the sertraline and was in a state, doc told me to start mirtzapine. I may aswell not bother. All I want to do is sleep, can't keep my eyes open. I'm also eating an obscene amount, there is no ceiling I geniunly feel I could just eat and eat and never get full. Now I'm in complete medication limbo. The doc is reading off a sheet anyone can see online. Just starting to feel all these meds make everything worse. Seriously considering hiding away for 2 weeks going cold turkey. Ride the withdrawals and then see where I'm at. If I were you, I’d get in touch with the local mental health team assessment team (google your area and mental health assessment team) and explain the situation, or even the local crisis line…when I went through them a few years back, I was assessed by a mental health nurse then seen by a specialist doctor who sorted my medication out sounds like it all needs sorting out rather than going cold turkey… best of luck with it
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Post by LegendaryApe on Nov 19, 2023 13:07:15 GMT
Going to hopefully get some Warhammer painting done tonight. Really hoping it'll help remove the massive weight of sadness that feels like it's crushing my chest. It's either that, or watch Ant and Dec in the jungle again.
Fingers crossed it works! I hope you're all keeping well.
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Post by damagedinc on Nov 19, 2023 14:11:52 GMT
Sorry for lack of reply been in a weird place recently. Binned off the mitazapine, awful drug for me.
Settled on 100 of sertraline and the spiral has stopped. Got docs again on Tues to review the metazapine. Obviously that hasn't happened. Now just wondering if I should ween off the sertraline and get a base line of where I am at without meds. Scared to try something new again and also wondering if half my issues are the meds I'm on to "help me"
Doing something productive like painting will be good for you! I've been playing more guitar and that's helped loads.
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Post by addyb on Nov 19, 2023 15:09:43 GMT
Hope everyone is OK. I've been on Sertraline for close to 10 years now. Seems to suit me. I still get bad days, and it's not often I want to throw myself in front of a train.
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Post by rawshark on Dec 1, 2023 23:09:00 GMT
So… this week I had an episode. Kicked off by a PDP at work. I’m sure what my manager was going for was a boot up the backside but it came across as “you’re old, you’re tired, you sure you want to be here?”
Mixed with the pressure of having to afford mortgage payments and with an almost one year old baby going into nursery next month, I have to admit I left the office and leaned against a tree and cried. I feel like I’m a million miles away from where I need to be both in my career and as a father. A failure at everything I ever put my mind to.
Baby was unwell the next day and I was fucking useless. Absolutely screamed my head off because he wouldn’t eat, drink, take medicine or nap. Losing my temper at a baby. What a cunt.
My partner has been so understanding. I’m slightly better now but it’s a time where I’ve felt everyone would be better off without me.
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Post by Syrette on Dec 1, 2023 23:18:07 GMT
I doubt there's a single person out there who hasn't felt useless at one time or many others when it comes to handling babies.
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Post by Danno on Dec 2, 2023 0:04:10 GMT
but it’s a time where I’ve felt everyone would be better off without me. Nah dude, people would be utterly devastated if you weren't about. I'd be sad for a start. If you have the weekend free then spend it doing things you love. Your manager is a cunt. If you want or need a rant feel free to PM. Always happy to listen
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2023 1:45:22 GMT
rawsharkI don’t think you mean that like it sounds but if you do please speak to somebody with training. Your problems are real and what I say is just pragmatism and not trying to belittle them, but children will be hard and will then grow up and be hard in different ways, and jobs will change/end/new managers will come. These problems are not permanent. You might not be in a position to have that perspective right now but that’s why you should speak to somebody. Regards the job thing, I had a manager that thought that every review had to have a negative because otherwise ‘there’s nothing to work towards’. This to me is a danger of this corporate PDP culture, doing the job is never enough, you have to sign up to the cult. Sounds very much like this to me and you need to weigh up whether they have gone through the motions in the most clumsily inappropriate way or whether it’s real. Either way, f*ck ‘em. Babies…I inherited the person I call my daughter as an eight year old, and they terrify me. Can’t help you there then sorry. It sounds like your partner can though, so you’ve got good things going on here, you really have. You’ll find a way through dude. EDIT Babies terrify me, not my daughter.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Dec 2, 2023 1:57:33 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Dec 2, 2023 7:27:03 GMT
I doubt there's a single person out there who hasn't felt useless at one time or many others when it comes to handling babies. Every parent feels a failure regularly ime. It's trite but they don't come with instructions. We all do the best we can in often very challenging circumstances. As Larkin said, "they fuck you up your mum and dad. They might not mean to but they do." I try to remember that when I've lost my rag at my kids for something small and daft, but it's the 100th thing that day that broke the camel's back. So chin up rawshark. Today is another day.
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Post by Syrette on Dec 2, 2023 8:51:52 GMT
Yeah, hope you feel a bit better this morning.
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Post by ned on Dec 2, 2023 9:00:35 GMT
I went to a funeral for a relative who killed themselves earlier in the year. He had a 12 year old son and a wife. Was a plumber,l loads of mates and family. Had been struggling for a while mentally without anyone really knowing . Had some financial issues he was hiding as well.
The funeral was the saddest things I’ve ever seen. No matter how bad things are, whatever your failures are, real or perceived, your family and friends want you here and would do anything to have you back.
We all have our moments to various degrees. But things can improve in future. You won’t always feel that way. When you are in that mindset it can be impossible to see past it, but try to make a promise to yourself that you will talk to a professional, a gp or a friend/family.
Yeah life can and will be hard, and sometimes can push you to breaking point. it’s the little things that can push you over the edge, when you are always hovering close to it and then you feel a cunt. It could be intrusive negative thoughts which you don’t express outwardly that makes you feel bad.
All this is normal for most people. Don’t be too harsh on yourself. We all havd a threshold. A lot of people think I a calm and relaxed but they can’t see my inner monologue, my resilience can be paper thin. So you never know what is going on inside someone’s mind.
Good luck to anyone who is struggling. Don’t bottle it up and ask for help.
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Post by rawshark on Dec 2, 2023 9:32:52 GMT
Thanks everyone - these are really kind.
I do see a therapist every week (for the time being - the babies nursery costs mean I have to pack in my sessions next year) so thankfully I have at least got a professional to talk these feelings through.
It’s just a very tough patch at the moment with one thing compounding the others. In all honesty there was a lot of truth to what my manager was saying and I probably do need a fire lit under me, but it’s a lot to process when there’s a baby etc to be worried about. It’s the feelings of failure that are really getting to me and the thoughts are actually painful. But as you guys say, I have help and support and most importantly people who love me.
One distraction method I’ve adopted is to slowly ease myself back into Elden Ring, which as we all know is the most uplifting and joyful game there is. Never feel like a failure playing that.
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Post by blankoblank on Dec 2, 2023 12:46:15 GMT
In all honesty there was a lot of truth to what my manager was saying and I probably do need a fire lit under me, but it’s a lot to process when there’s a baby etc to be worried about. It’s the feelings of failure that are really getting to me and the thoughts are actually painful. But as you guys say, I have help and support and most importantly people who love me. Everyone's experience is different but is it possible that your head is full of fear of failure and preoccupied with those thoughts and therefore preventing you from being able to really focus on doing a good job? Like only 5% of your brain capacity is commited to the task in hand because the other 95% is busy thinking about all the possible bad outcomes that may occur? Anyone will fail in that situation. I've found myself preoccupied like that in the past and it kills your ability to achieve. It's such a self fulfilling prophecy. I got past it by reciting a mantra (nerdily enough, the "fear is the mind killer" quote from Dune) whenever I started to feel the fear creeping up and I was able to get to the other side that way. By reminding myself that I needed to cleanse my mind of worry to allow myself to focus, no matter how large the worries loomed, I was able to focus and get things done to a much better quality. If I felt the fear creep in a bit I'd mentally slap myself to put it back in its place. Maybe write it down to assure yourself that there'll be time to worry about it later.
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