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Post by rftp on Sept 18, 2024 8:20:10 GMT
Yeah, we've never indiscriminately bombed civilian populations.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 18, 2024 8:23:53 GMT
Its not indiscriminate if you're actually aiming for them.
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Post by rftp on Sept 18, 2024 8:24:58 GMT
True. "Acceptable collateral damage" and all that.
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Post by apollo on Sept 18, 2024 9:27:51 GMT
So the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon had a Hezbollah pager. Fancy that. Has anyone heard from Corbyn? 
Actually he would see an pager as "new fangled technology" and use old fashioned telegrams
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Post by Lukus on Sept 18, 2024 9:33:24 GMT
It's probably a bit crass or whatever, but I'm really impressed by the level of planning and execution (no pun intended) of the whole thing. It feels very Splinter Cell (no pun intended).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2024 9:43:56 GMT
There's a video doing the rounds of one going off when a guy's holding it in his left hand. But he's alright now. Fucking hell man 😅 |
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Post by rftp on Sept 18, 2024 9:50:39 GMT
It's probably a bit crass or whatever, but I'm really impressed by the level of planning and execution (no pun intended) of the whole thing. It feels very Splinter Cell (no pun intended). Maybe (the crass thing), but agreed, it's an incredibly impressive operation. The logistics to provide and tamper with that many devices, using micro explosives which would have required clean factory conditions to implant and the distribution and activation is unbelievable. Not just because of the explosions and injuries and psychological damage and damage to their communications and network, but because of the operational intel they will have received on thousands of Hezbollah operatives. Where there were, who they were with or near, hospital records, and on and on and on. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if they start their expected push into Southern Lebanon very shortly, whilst Hezbollah are in disarray. |
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Post by apollo on Sept 18, 2024 10:52:12 GMT
special military fireworks operation show in Russia
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1fjlcum/hundreds_of_tons_of_russian_ammunition_explode/
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 18, 2024 11:46:30 GMT
Looks more like a nuke going off than the Trinity test did in Oppenheimer, then again any ammo dump blowing during this war looks more like a nuke than it did in the film.
NASA helpfully pointing out what's on fire through their satellite monitoring system.
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Post by rftp on Sept 18, 2024 14:26:06 GMT
Apparently, a second wave of comms devices is exploding in Beirut.
Walkie Talkies and suchlike.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 18, 2024 14:57:08 GMT
Al Qeada will be interested to find out this kind of thing is no longer counted as terrorism.
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Post by rftp on Sept 18, 2024 15:11:20 GMT
I imagine the screeching social media outrage is being prepared as we type.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 18, 2024 15:14:06 GMT
It's almost as if some specific individual is really trying to prolong conflict for some mystery reason...
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 18, 2024 15:14:23 GMT
Are you suggesting that this isn't outrageous?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 18, 2024 15:15:01 GMT
Are you suggesting that this isn't outrageous? No, quite the opposite. It's absolutely mind boggling. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 18, 2024 15:15:51 GMT
Not you
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 18, 2024 15:16:13 GMT
Charming.
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Post by rftp on Sept 18, 2024 15:16:48 GMT
Me, I suspect.
I am not outraged, no. Sorry if that was not entirely obvious.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 18, 2024 15:28:48 GMT
That wasn't what I asked. Do you not find this worthy of outrage from anyone?
I mean, I know the answer from your glib comment but is it really that weird for people to be outraged about nation state terrorism? They have killed or wounded hundreds of non-combatants including children.
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Post by rftp on Sept 18, 2024 15:38:20 GMT
People can feel however they like. And they can certainly make it their entire personality on the internet, which was what I was referring to.
I personally don't believe that's of any value to anything, but it's up to them.
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Post by senso on Sept 18, 2024 15:40:06 GMT
Using large scale coordinated explosions to kill or injure indiscriminately and spread fear and doubt among the population; this is the definition of terrorism. No condemnation from any western country, of course. I mean they could condemn attacks on civilians and deny Israel was involved, if they want to stay in Netanyahu's good books. But there seems to be an acceptance across the board and that Israel is responsible and that's just that.
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Post by apollo on Sept 18, 2024 15:54:02 GMT
thats a good point.
The only people to get anything out of these attacks is Iran, as they want more violence in the region and things to escalate.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 18, 2024 15:56:03 GMT
Its got to the 'my tax is contributing to this and its unconscionable stage', if it wasn't already. It's the actions of a leader who is fucked in the head.
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Post by rftp on Sept 18, 2024 16:17:46 GMT
UN Security council meeting now to discuss this.
Edit. Announcement now, meeting later.
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Post by grey_matters on Sept 18, 2024 16:18:28 GMT
Using large scale coordinated explosions to kill or injure indiscriminately and spread fear and doubt among the population; this is the definition of terrorism. No condemnation from any western country, of course. I mean they could condemn attacks on civilians and deny Israel was involved, if they want to stay in Netanyahu's good books. But there seems to be an acceptance across the board and that Israel is responsible and that's just that. Ireland has, and Borell from the EU. |
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Sept 18, 2024 16:19:36 GMT
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Post by Fake_Blood on Sept 18, 2024 17:01:01 GMT
Well they are talking about exploding solar panels, mopeds, cars and indeed kitchen appliances now.
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 18, 2024 17:06:45 GMT
Is this some sort of fuck up by Mossad, assuming it's them as it doesn't seem likely for anyone else? Indiscriminately blowing up technology seems like a real waste of the effort put in rather than targeting things surgically at individuals.
It's terrorism though and certainly criminal.
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Post by X201 on Sept 18, 2024 17:10:11 GMT
The thought on the news was that the plan had become compromised in some way. So they were in a “use it or lose it” situation.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Sept 18, 2024 17:19:08 GMT
I think the plan is to make people paranoid about any device that has a battery in it. Imagine not being 100% sure about whatever device you’re looking at right now.
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