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Post by loto on Sept 17, 2024 15:33:48 GMT
Nothing good comes of using pagers.
Just ask Avon Barksdale
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Post by magicpanda on Sept 17, 2024 15:40:40 GMT
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Post by Leolian'sBro on Sept 17, 2024 15:44:17 GMT
If you can overcharge a battery with nothing but software I’m going to start keeping my phone somewhere else than right next to my balls.
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Post by askew on Sept 17, 2024 15:52:28 GMT
Woah. Like something out of a spy film. |
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Post by magicpanda on Sept 17, 2024 16:12:55 GMT
Unreal. Over 2700 injured and 8 dead.
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Post by peacemaker on Sept 17, 2024 16:21:22 GMT
I assume they are able to do this to mobile phones as well then.
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Post by magicpanda on Sept 17, 2024 16:25:07 GMT
The implications if this was a hack rather than supply chain infiltration are pretty fucked up.
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Post by cubby on Sept 17, 2024 16:33:48 GMT
Nothing good comes of using pagers. Just ask Avon Barksdale Shiiiiiiiiiiit. |
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Post by rftp on Sept 17, 2024 17:00:10 GMT
From the explosions, it doesn't look like batteries overheating, which probably rules out a software based hack.
The implications of it being a supply chain attack are staggering, though. To successfully get explosives into each device and then simultaneously (or close to) detonate theml is incredible.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Sept 17, 2024 17:01:53 GMT
I’ve seen a couple lithium cells blow up, you get a flamethrower because of the hydrogen gas, this doesn’t look anything like that.
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Post by gamingdave on Sept 17, 2024 17:04:06 GMT
Surely has to be supply chain infiltration. A Li-ion battery being fully discharged at once will catch fire, and a vicious one at that, but not really an explosion
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Post by Fake_Blood on Sept 17, 2024 17:17:46 GMT
My 2 cents, you know they are looking for pagers, you put a container or literal truckload of them somewhere you know they will get stolen, and nobody suspects stolen goods.
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 17, 2024 17:19:33 GMT
Rather glad the pager I used to have to wear all the time in the NHS was one that used AA batteries...
With the injuries inflicted and bystanders getting hurt as well it has to be more than a battery overload.
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Post by rftp on Sept 17, 2024 17:24:05 GMT
Per the above, it's not batteries. There would be loads of flames and loads of smoke.
These appear to be some kind of mechanical explosion.
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Post by minimatt on Sept 17, 2024 17:37:11 GMT
yeah bbc had frank gardner naming the class of explosive and likely quantity
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Post by cubby on Sept 17, 2024 17:38:26 GMT
My 2 cents, you know they are looking for pagers, you put a container or literal truckload of them somewhere you know they will get stolen, and nobody suspects stolen goods. It has to be more targeted than that surely? You'll hit all sorts of people if you just *hope* that it ends up in hezbollah's hands. |
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Post by askew on Sept 17, 2024 17:47:12 GMT
M. Ossad's Pager and Communication Supplies: bargain rates for paramilitaries
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Post by technoish on Sept 17, 2024 17:55:11 GMT
I think it's supposed to be the Hezbollah secure pagers or something similar. Israel was like, ok if we can't hack 'em let's blow them all up.
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Sept 17, 2024 17:57:07 GMT
I assume the gloves are off for Hezbollah now.
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Post by technoish on Sept 17, 2024 18:01:33 GMT
If this destroyed all of their comms devices and injured every device owner... They'd be seriously degraded in capabilities.
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Post by rftp on Sept 17, 2024 18:01:35 GMT
I assume the gloves are off for Hezbollah now. There's probably a few of them could shop in Michael Jackson's wardrobe now. |
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Sept 17, 2024 18:40:45 GMT
So some kind of protective underwear might be in order if you keep your mobile in your trouser pocket?
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Post by rftp on Sept 17, 2024 18:56:28 GMT
See above, Fred. Although, don't let us talk you out of trying.
So the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon had a Hezbollah pager. Fancy that.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Sept 17, 2024 19:05:39 GMT
Lots of face and hand injuries it seems, I guess the pager went off just before it went off?
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 17, 2024 19:14:24 GMT
"Why does my pager say "BOOM!"? Oh."
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Post by minimatt on Sept 17, 2024 19:15:44 GMT
bbc were saying a signal primed the boom to go off when the device was next interacted with rather than a signal triggering the boom - hence the michael jackson gloves
not really going to lose too much sleep over hezbollah but the huge numbers seems indiscriminate and kids like playing with their parent's phones/beepy things
can't see this exactly increasing peace in the middle east
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Post by askew on Sept 17, 2024 19:16:39 GMT
Lots of face and hand injuries it seems, I guess the pager went off just before it went off? Yeah, one of the videos has the chap at the counter look down and fiddle with his right before it goes off in his face. |
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Post by cubby on Sept 17, 2024 19:16:50 GMT
One of the videos shows the pager going off moments before it goes boom.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Sept 17, 2024 19:24:09 GMT
There's a video doing the rounds of one going off when a guy's holding it in his left hand. But he's alright now.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 18, 2024 1:16:23 GMT
My 2 cents, you know they are looking for pagers, you put a container or literal truckload of them somewhere you know they will get stolen, and nobody suspects stolen goods. It has to be more targeted than that surely? You'll hit all sorts of people if you just *hope* that it ends up in hezbollah's hands. Israel's idea of 'targeted' doesn't seem to line up with everyone else's, so I wouldn't count on it. |
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