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Post by Whizzo on Jan 30, 2024 22:30:07 GMT
Don't get in a serious car accident or get attacked by a shark though, The Traitors have done that already in two versions.
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Post by jono62 on Jan 30, 2024 23:07:25 GMT
FFS Up to episode 7 and It's frustrating how silly they are. 'Oh no one has tried to murder anyone who went to the armoury but they must have now to kill Sam'. The Below Deck woman 'Luke called Sam out because he's a traitor 100%' Liam gets killed 'Oh you have been sneaky Simone, you are traitor 100%' Keith 'You are playing a game, you are a traitor'. Gloria 'I'm not going to be swayed. I've put Sam, then Blake and crossed them out and put you Simone '. Simone 'Sorry dickheads, I'm a faithful'. The faithful deserve nothing Lol, Keith was a cop? A pretty shit cop then. This is Aussie season 2. |
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Post by simple on Jan 31, 2024 0:20:26 GMT
Australia season 2 episode 3 I thought Luke was going to be a huge dickhead but he’s pretty much the only one who gets it. Annabel seems to as well but she’s so starstruck by anyone whose been on telly and is way too much of a tryhard in the talking head segments. Like we get it, you’ve seen every reality show ever, relax.
Blake’s rowing and sinking the boat was tremendous though. I’m hugely disappointed that Claudia wasn’t there to witness it.
I’ve a horrible feeling that Sam being this transparently treacherous isn’t actually going to get him banished anytime soon. |
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 31, 2024 8:12:21 GMT
I just applied for S3  Start pumping iron now for your faithful bedroom video clip I want the bathtub scene instead. |
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Post by Frog on Jan 31, 2024 8:17:52 GMT
We don't 😂
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Post by jono62 on Jan 31, 2024 9:21:16 GMT
Start pumping iron now for your faithful bedroom video clip I want the bathtub scene instead. Director 'ok, pretend you are about to knock one out in the tub'. |
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Post by simple on Jan 31, 2024 9:42:20 GMT
Speaking of which; Elias’s VTs on Aussie Traitors season 2. If he wasn’t going to I was.
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Post by jono62 on Jan 31, 2024 15:15:29 GMT
Finished Season one of US Traitors. Spoilers below Cirie played it perfectly. Having her two allies at the end made it easy for her to win and why she knew she could go red and win the rest. Kate is the one I enjoyed watching the most, from being a bitch, throwing money way, to wanting to be banished to getting back into the game. She was great. I thought it was going to the usual whoop, whoop style at the start, but it calmed down and was very good. Alan Cumming was brilliant. |
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Post by jono62 on Jan 31, 2024 20:17:46 GMT
Finished Aussie Traitors series 2 Hahahaha hahahaha. Fuck you Sam. Glad that cunt didn't get anything. Also, oh my word, is Su Pollard the stupidest contestant they ever had? |
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 31, 2024 21:10:09 GMT
Finished Aussie Traitors series 2 Hahahaha hahahaha. Fuck you Sam. Glad that cunt didn't get anything. Also, oh my word, is Su Pollard the stupidest contestant they ever had? The ending made up for what was mostly a disappointing season, it all went Sam's way once Annabel and Luke left but Camille knowing she was set up as a patsy was perfect. Blake could have shared the silver with another Traitor if he'd only helped get rid of Sam but his weakness screwed him over too. Sarah has to be one of the dumbest people on any game show ever, I can't imagine she'll have too many clients as a psychotherapist after that, her only hope is the viewing figures in Australia were poor (possibly leading to the show's cancellation) may save her career. As for Keith, the crims in Oz must be fucking idiots if he was one of the most effective coppers in the country. |
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Post by simple on Feb 1, 2024 0:37:32 GMT
Australia season 2 episodes 4, 5, 6 and 7 After the first few episodes I was a bit concerned that the series was trying to be too Reality TV and it was impacting my enjoyment of the game quite negatively. Then one of the worst offenders, Annabel, flips and completely unpicks the entire traitor game.
I can’t remember a moment in any previous season where someone has named every traitor, identified them for the right reasons and laid out their plans so accurately. Annabel and Luke were an absolute dreamteam through the middle run of this season.
Or they would have been if they weren’t up against the most terminally thick group of faithful of any season. The pair of them gave them everything and the faithful picked apart the entire thing.
Then Roger is practically telling them to their faces why they’re wrong and they ignore him too.
I do like how naked the politicking and gamesmanship is in the two Australian series, it took awhile (over half the series) this time but it does give the show a different character to the British and American games.
I do truly hate Sam though. Not even in a panto Paul is too much way, in a straight up this guy is a pure dickhead way. And he’s not even that good at the game. His one big play was the Ash banishment and since then all the biggest swings at the table have been led by other faithful derailing any good thing they’ve almost been on. You can just feel how desperate he is to be famous too, like he oozes wanting the full tour of all these reality shows every time he talks.
Hopefully Blake is able to hang on for the win but really no one is coming out of this looking good
And I guess if I’m ever going to commit any massive crimes Australia will be the place to do it, I wouldn’t get caught. |
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Post by Whizzo on Feb 1, 2024 1:19:37 GMT
The target for your hate is probably shared by absolutely everyone who watched Aus S2, so narcissistic that they've taken the narcissism points for at least 50% of Australia for themselves.
Cunt really is not strong enough of a word.
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Post by simple on Feb 1, 2024 7:18:12 GMT
I mean episode 7  At this point I can’t imagine how the faithful win but they 100% wouldn’t deserve it. |
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Post by gamingdave on Feb 1, 2024 13:02:20 GMT
Finished UK S1, binging it all in a week doing 3 a night. Really enjoyed it and the different approach to the rules kept us guessing on how it would play out. I think S2 pips it, but only just. The Faithful really were terrible at it. Wilf didn't have much of a game plan, but then he didn't need one. He lost it going against Kieran though. Once it got down to just him he had no choice, he had to recruit else the Faithful would have kept playing till they found a Traitor. But the gamble to go solo at the end cost him, had he and Kieran been a proper alliance I could have seen them getting 2 on 2 and taking it to 2:1 and the win. Think we will take a break before going in for more, but for those who have seen the lot (or at least more than me) how would you rank all the series? |
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Post by simple on Feb 1, 2024 13:31:49 GMT
Hometown bias but I’d probably go
UK 2
UK 1
Australia 1
USA 1
Australia 2
With the asterisk that I’m still two episodes from finishing the last one. And it’d be on goal difference between those first two foreign series, they’re more different from each other than they are from the UK but very entertaining in their own way.
If it influences you at all the American one is set in the same location as the UK one but the Aussies have a totally original setting and slightly tweaked format.
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Post by simple on Feb 1, 2024 13:46:42 GMT
Can’t really get into why without spoilers but its all good really. And surprising how much the game changes depending on the character of the players.
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Post by Resident Knievel on Feb 1, 2024 18:15:10 GMT
Up to Australian Season 1, episode 6 Mark is a fantastic reader of people, right every time for the right reasons. He's like Jaz if he had conviction and people listened to him. |
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Post by jono62 on Feb 1, 2024 18:24:57 GMT
simple I loved the first Aussie series. I would put it above UK 1.
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Post by Frog on Feb 1, 2024 19:36:18 GMT
Aussie 1 is my favourite series I think
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Post by simple on Feb 1, 2024 19:39:58 GMT
Its been awhile since I’ve seen them so I wouldn’t contest Aussie 1 being right up there.
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Post by simple on Feb 1, 2024 21:03:02 GMT
What if as a way to shake up the game in future they have one episode where whoever gets the shield can trade it for a (obtuse obviously) clue. Every player knows the option is on the table but the person does it is under no obligation to share their decision or what the clue was |
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Post by Resident Knievel on Feb 1, 2024 21:07:49 GMT
I'd like to see them start a series with 2 teams of traitors (2 people each) who aren't told about each other and could potentially murder each other and the same target - it would create tension and confusion amongst the traitors straight away as they try to figure out what's going on and assassinate the other team. Yeah it would muddle up the faithful, but they're muddled to begin with anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 21:08:13 GMT
Nah, clues would be shit. Think the format is solid as the people involved will always affect the strategies and dynamics to keep it fresh.
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Post by Whizzo on Feb 1, 2024 21:51:38 GMT
Some of the European versions of the show have daggers, you earn them in the armoury like a shield (not sure I agree with the change in UK S2 in how shields are acquired) but it makes your vote count for double in a banishment. They expire on the day they're acquired so you use them or lose them. thetraitors.fandom.com/wiki/Dagger don't scroll past the strategy part of the wiki in case you want to see the versions that the dagger has been used in as it's obviously spoiler territory. |
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Post by Vandelay on Feb 1, 2024 23:26:55 GMT
Only real format change I would want to see is to make challenges more relevant to the wider game. The best one this series was the funeral and the challenge itself wasn't even that interesting/intricate, it was just the fact it was linked to everything else going on, with traitors still on edge about hiding their extra knowledge
Maybe they could give the traitors hidden challenges within a challenge and they get some reward for achieving it, such as secret info about other contestants or allowing them to make a double kill.
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Post by simple on Feb 2, 2024 22:31:49 GMT
Australia season 2 episodes 8 and 9
HAHA what a perfect ending! Get it up ye, ya daft bellend!
I love that Camille just deliberately fucked the game purely because she knew Sam was a cunt. Felt bad for Blake but glad he didn’t have to sit through Sam’s celebrations.
Its hard to even say Sam had played a good game because he was dropping red flags every episode and it was more that the faithful were easily the dumbest of any series I’ve watched. Seems fitting that Sarah made it to the firepit as she was the single dumbest player in the dumbest cast ever assembled. From episode four onwards Rodger was resorting to giving them clues at breakfast and they still didn’t get it.
On the series as a whole I think its probably the weakest of the five I’ve watched so far. It felt like they got the casting totally wrong. The first Aussie series felt like it had the most serious set of people of all the first seasons but this time it felt like they really tried to engineer the second season to be very Reality TV. I don’t even mean the celeb castings either but Sam, Annabel and three or for people who were social media types too. Even though Luke and Hannah settled in as regular players I do think having celebs was a mistake. Ash was too big a personality and Gyton got voted off just because he’d played a villain on a show where Rodger was the cop.
But yeah, fuck Sam, I’m very happy that the FBI agent took him down at the death of the game.
And good god Sarah was deeply stupid.
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Post by cubby on Feb 2, 2024 22:35:19 GMT
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Post by simple on Feb 2, 2024 22:39:30 GMT
On More or Less they tried doing some statistical analysis of whether faithful are better at guessing traitors than you’d expect from random chance. All series spoiler: The UK seasons averaged just above random chance but the international average performed below random chance.
I think I know why that international average got dragged down now. |
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Post by jono62 on Feb 3, 2024 4:32:43 GMT
simple As soon as the bell end started doing finger guns at the start, I wanted him out, however the way it ended was much better
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Post by Frog on Feb 3, 2024 8:14:28 GMT
I'm not sure the data sample is big enough for accurate analysis of something like that yet.
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