Ahsoka

At a guess, people probably started watching it in the vain hope that something based on a well loved property would turn out to be decent rather than a boring, 'its like poetry, it rhymes' rehash of things we have seen a million times before.




I think we may have watched different shows because introducing the protagonist as an unlikable idiot was stupid, confirming that a second time when the dumb idiots almost made her steal the map was stupid, having it stolen from her was stupid, having her magically survive an injury that has killed literally every other character in star wars history who sustained one was stupid and, when there is no action, having everyone stand around just mindlessly flapping their gums at each other is stupid (although, to be fair, very classic star wars).

I genuinely thought it was absolutely dreadful. An absolute waste, which is a shame. The talky bits are abysmally boring, shot like an episode of neighbours and everyone acts like they are on heavy valium, delivering stilted, dead eyed dialogue like AI chatbots. Its so dour.

I think you know as well as I do that I meant ‘stabbed with’ rather than ‘touched by in any capacity’. And who the fuck is the inquisitor? The Scottish robot off red dwarf?

This. I thought that at the time: if you want to kill someone in Star Wars you don’t just plunge it in, you need to swirl it around a bit, cut them in half! oh but Darth Maul

well, Obi-Wan was at least MOSTLY dead when he got sabered.

Another ‘Find the thing to find the thing’ caper plus a dose of Master/Student angst. It’s breaking new ground, alright.

I thought it was fine, we're still pretty much in the prologue phase of the story really but I would say that an awful lot of what happened in the episode seemed to be there just because they hadn't had one yet, ultimately it didn't really advance the plot.

Glad to see what I spoilered from last week turned out to be the case, nothing else made sense.

As per usual with a lot of Disney+ series the runtime has dropped off a lot on this episode, I was up when the episode went live, skipped the recap and the credits and it was done and dusted in 30 minutes.

Sounds like you either like this, or despise it.

It's got some interesting idea's but the execution isn't great.

I haven't watched any of these since Mando S2 and Boba Fett, so this is wild speculation on my part, but it seems like Dave Filoni's stuff really appeals to a certain kind of fan, of which there are quite a few. It's the kind of fan who consumes all the SW extended universe stuff and likes all the 'lore' and callbacks and references and cameo appearances.
It also works really well as internet fodder for youtubers, as they can speculate about background references or possible future cameos, and react to surprise cameos.

(which is absolutely the kind of fan I'd have been 20 years ago when I was reading EU novels and playing all the SW PC Games)

But if you're a different kind of fan who is more interested in the actual story being told *now* then it can be very frustrating or underwhelming. It often feels like they're focused more on the setups, crossovers and callbacks than they are on making *this* thing as good as it could be.
"Always looking away… to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing."

In hindsight, even Mando S1 was doing some of that (appearances by 88, jawas, baby yoda, darksaber etc..) but it was mostly doing its own thing with its 'western of the week' so it wasn't noticeable. S2 got more and more Filoni-ish as it went along, and less satisfying because of it.

Given Ahsoka seems entirely based on his Clone Wars cartoon, it shouldn't really be a surprise if it appeals much more to the former category of fan (which I am no longer), but darn it Star Wars can do good trailers.

Yeah, if Clone Wars and Rebels had come out at a stage in my life where I cared about SW and had a lot of free time I might have watched them. Now it just looks daunting.

Agree with a lot of this, the saber training and dogfight scenes in ep 3 primary purpose was for people to discuss on social media rather than develop the character or plot.

One other minor niggle is again with Hera, I understand in an animated series a character needs be drawn in the same clothing and it was necessary to make that link with the animation but I find the weird pilot outfit distracting. Han rocked his vest and Luke loved a robe but even they got a few wardrobe items. Hera is permanently in the same outfit and it makes her a one dimensional character.

I’ve never got on with the cartoons, I’ve found them dull at best. The only ones I’ve liked have been those recent ones done by loads of different studios and that tarkovski clone wars one.

The guy being a massive fan and into the lore is nice, it doesn’t do much for my enjoyment. It all feels like big budget fan fic made by someone that isn’t very good at live action stuff.

Finally got around to starting it and watching the first episode this evening.

Everything up to when we met the purple/ginger haired girl was pretty good. Felt cinematic, nice 70s aesthetic and all that. But then we got a Star Trek Beastie Boys moment and suddenly the show turned into feeling like watching a new episode of a series I haven’t been keeping up with. Everything seemed geared toward me knowing who all these characters are and already understanding the relationships between them - and I don’t.

Its not great to create a big new show that the audience needs to do revision for.

I'm enjoying it fine. Solid 7 out of 10 stuff. However I do like the cartoons generally. It has strong 90s Star Wars video game plot vibes, which is a sort of comfort blanket in terms of quality. Better than Bona Fett or Mando 3 currently but that's not a high bar.

Still absolutely useless New Republic Senators are the new Starfleet Admiral who's a cunt.

Though that's largely JJ's fault as it needs to fit the backplot of Force Awakens and Rise Of none of which makes any sense at all. This stuff would probably be better if they didn't have some arsehole canon consultant working on it.

Surely the thing to do when trying to finish off a