Sunsetting the fontgeek forum

Ha it really enhances the last page.

Haha, took me a moment to realise it wasn't just a straight word swap with minge.

Good work.

Maybe?  If I were coming afresh to this forum, the presence of shit like the MCU thread would be a massive turn off.  There's not much name calling in there, not too much spite or negativity, but comic movies aren't my bag so maybe this community ain't my bag.

RPS deciding we're not the place for them after a cursory glance at a few swears isn't exactly an exhaustive analysis is it?  I'd imagine there are other forums (reset era etc.) that perhaps they also don't want to join - and that has a dramatically different tone.  A grown up approach would be to suck it and see.

Not that I think we should encourage douchebaggery on here - and sometimes it really is too much - but the place is what it is.  Fuck I've even had to make peace with the fact that Ecosse is still around: he wasn't ever much of one for the swears but was possibly the worst person on here for a decade!

Either way, mods changing a couple of posts (in literally the early weeks of the new forum whilst we're still finding our feet) and some other forum thinking we're pricks has been put way out of proportion.  It's not exactly the end times.

If everyone saying cunt over and over again doesn't get those RPS guys to join then I don't know what else we can do.

Genius QA.  :-D

Phattso
I wasn't suggesting you had personally said all of that, other than the bit I quoted you. It just seems to be the general defense for why they shouldn't come here, like we're losing something vital by not acting like overfamiliar arseholes.

I've got nothing against a bit of bad language but you lose tone in text. I generally prescribe to the idea that we should act toward one another like we would expect other kids to act toward our kids.
The Ecosse/Wayne stuff is a prime example. Regardless of whether they were dicks or not, call it out and then ignore them and move on. Constantly baiting and insulting them without cause makes you (general "you", not specifically you) the arsehole. When the other forum announced the closure the first thread created there was "Ecosse is a cunt", and then it was the first thread here 20 minutes later.

We don't need to be that way, even when it's just "for the bants".

This is largely nothing to do with RPS coming here, it's just not the way adults should be willing choosing to behave.

Hopefully they do give it a chance though. Once they create some threads in the PC space they can largely ignore the rest of the threads/us anyway.

The Wayne situation could have been handled a bit differently but I’m fully confident that if anyone took a genuine grievance to the mods it would be respected no matter who you are. Wayne chose to flounce out and use another platform to air his petty vendettas which looks more like his issues come from the people he dislikes than any treatment received. Wayne always struck me as a Dale-lite, being a beige contributor to the forum isn’t enough so without anything actually interesting to say he chose to stink up every thread he went until the conversation was about him. I fully expect he’ll be back in some guise once the EG forum disappears, he needs the attention

"Yeah but..."

I really don't get what's so difficult about being less "hostile" (for want for a better term)?

*edited as it made less sense after the most recent post.

I just told you. You want culture change. That’s hard to do. Lecturing won’t achieve it.

I guess some people just invite hostility after a while. Its usually after persistent and wilfull fuckwittery. I can't think of many people that received 'hostility' without them at least in significant part strongly inviting it.

It also ignores the fact that *A LOT* of people here *ARE* already behaving that way.  I throw swears around for (relative) comic effect, but never directed at someone.  I try to put in as much as I take out of the community.  I try to help people out who need helping out.  I try to avoid all the obvious shitty drama.  Most of the people I enjoy interacting with on here do much the same.  It's why I'm still around (like a bad smell) after two decades.

And while I'd love to move on from the Ecosse thing, that dude is the reason I bailed on the forum for a couple of years (topically, a couple of years during which I tried on RPS for size) so it's quite personal for me.  I fully understand that people who weren't directly impacted would look on in dismay.  Perhaps the fact that it really is only a handful of users out of hundreds that gets that sort of treatment suggests it's the exception and not the rule.

I don't think, on balance, we're all that bad. And I absolutely don't think, on any level, that we need to enact dramatic changes in the hope that another exiled forum will love us more.  

For all the fucking whinging, let's not forget one thing: EG is closing the forum.  Within 48 hours of that news the community had banded together en masse to try to preserve as much of what we had as was possible, and has spent the weeks since trying to encourage as many people over as possible. It was a fucking beautiful process to behold, and I'm proud of you all. Let's keep that in mind, eh? 

I wouldn't describe it as a problem just trying to preserve what made EG great and at the same time lose some of the things that weren't so good.

Like Phattso I'm amazed at how successful the transition has been, I hope we also get some new faces.

Plus this place has messaging.

Finally I can send dick pics without worrying about the bloomin' police getting involved.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell. I don't honestly think we're as bad as all that. There's a lot worse places on the interent and over the years I've been here and there I've had lots of help and support on so many issues, and tried to be as supportive as I can in turn when it's something I can help with. I'm as guilty as anyone as throwing dodgy language about and, quite frankly, talking pish, but it's all meant in good humour, as is 99.9% of the other posts I see on here.

Of course there's been the odd square peg / round hole incident over the years. Not everyone gets on all the time, and some just rub others up once in a while. There's not one place in living history where humans interact that that's not happened. We're also not always our best every day and sometimes say things out of turn. Again, that's part of being human.

I don't think we should be too hard on ourselves.