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Post by zephro on Oct 11, 2023 11:29:30 GMT
Made it to Baldurs Gate finally! I think I'm still in the outer walls of the main city but already I can see how dense it's going to become! Feeling a bit overwhelmed for the first time since getting into the swing of things back in Act 1. Great game. Also will be up for a replay at some stage (probably with a proper machine instead of a steam deck!) - saying that is going to take me a long time to work through the city...! It is incredibly dense, but I found you generally hit the level cap quite early in Act 3 so you can leave a lot of things for a second playthrough. You can just power through the main plot and it'll still hit the level cap easily.
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Post by Tuffty on Oct 11, 2023 12:03:17 GMT
As some general advice if you're in combat, if you want to cover a little more distance without having to use Dash, you might get some benefit by using Jump. It covers a little more ground and is a bonus action. Made the difference for me in terms of getting party members up close to land a big hit within the same turn.
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Post by dasbooter on Oct 11, 2023 12:34:49 GMT
As some general advice if you're in combat, if you want to cover a little more distance without having to use Dash, you might get some benefit by using Jump. It covers a little more ground and is a bonus action. Made the difference for me in terms of getting party members up close to land a big hit within the same turn. This was handy in the hag fight. She kept running away around the pit, leaving trails of fire and acid and I struggled to catch her. Lae'zel popped a potion to triple her already excellent jump distance - I leapt right over the pit and headed her off.
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Post by skalpadda on Oct 11, 2023 15:23:42 GMT
It depends on your strength; if it's low you might not get further or even as far as normal movement. Can also jump past enemies to avoid opportunity attacks, as long as you don't start or land in range of them.
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 11, 2023 20:11:13 GMT
Made it to Baldurs Gate finally! I think I'm still in the outer walls of the main city but already I can see how dense it's going to become! Feeling a bit overwhelmed for the first time since getting into the swing of things back in Act 1. Great game. Also will be up for a replay at some stage (probably with a proper machine instead of a steam deck!) - saying that is going to take me a long time to work through the city...! It is incredibly dense, but I found you generally hit the level cap quite early in Act 3 so you can leave a lot of things for a second playthrough. You can just power through the main plot and it'll still hit the level cap easily. I'm not certain, but it felt like they dished out a lot more XP in Act 3. I felt like I was leveling once every couple of hours when I got to the final act. I suspect they wanted to make sure even those that were ignoring side content were able to make it to level 12, so ramped up the XP rewards.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 11, 2023 22:26:47 GMT
I’m now unsure of my character choice. I get the impression githiyanki are supposed to be a bit nasty especially towards other races. But the bard in me wants to be nice and charming. It’s certainly an odd mix. It seems to confuse people a bit though so maybe it’s not bad. I rescued lae’zel but sent her to camp as I didn’t like her attitude. But feel I might need to bring her back as she seems a good fighter. As you can see, I still have no idea what I am doing
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 11, 2023 22:29:59 GMT
As with most these games, always best to have a full compliment in your party (which is 3 companions). Even if you don't particularly want Lae'zel there, best to have her until you get 3 different people to join you. It doesn't take too long.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 11, 2023 22:43:23 GMT
I already have a 4some and I didn’t want to drop Gale, Shadowheart or Astarion. I feel her melee skills may compliment that group though. Probably finding Astarion least useful so far.
Although I’ve only just realised that switching between characters to interact with certain objects can give different results. Still haven’t quite figured this game out yet.
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Post by skalpadda on Oct 12, 2023 6:01:38 GMT
I already have a 4some and I didn’t want to drop Gale, Shadowheart or Astarion. I feel her melee skills may compliment that group though. Probably finding Astarion least useful so far. Although I’ve only just realised that switching between characters to interact with certain objects can give different results. Still haven’t quite figured this game out yet. Astarion is very good at picking locks and disarming traps and there are lots of both, so unless you've built your bard for that he's probably worth keeping around just for dealing with those things. Rogues can deal respectable damage as well, both melee and ranged, so he can pull his weight in fights even though he'll be a bit squishy until higher levels.
And don't forget that you can always respec any character later if you feel like their particular skills don't suit your party.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 12, 2023 6:05:59 GMT
Haven’t found anything to use to disarm traps yet, but I take the point. I’ve been thinking around combat rather than general open play. So I should give him the thieves tools and get him to pick the locks etc. I switched to Gale to read the book of the dead for example.
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Post by Tomo on Oct 13, 2023 0:31:33 GMT
Ditched Starfield and got this instead. Wow. The opening couple of hours are just great. It feels so premium. Even works great on a controller. The inventory is immediately obvious and even the weapon wheels are pretty good. Impressive.
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Post by Tomo on Oct 13, 2023 0:32:41 GMT
I went for a Charlatan Forest Gnome lol. My GF influenced this... Hopefully not handicapped myself with some weird class.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 13, 2023 3:32:01 GMT
You can respec pretty easily once you get a short way into the game, so I wouldn't worry too much about gimping yourself.
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Post by kingbambino on Oct 13, 2023 7:49:06 GMT
I’m in my 40s and this is quite possible one of my favourite games ever after about 14 hours in. I’m just starting to my trek to moonrise towers so I’m not sure how long that takes ?
Managed to get a romance going with Shadowheart. The morning after I put Wyll in my group and she’s only bloody flirting with him already! Unbelievable!
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Post by RobEG on Oct 13, 2023 7:58:37 GMT
I did my first bit of levelling yesterday. I probably could have done it sooner as a few had two levels but it wasn't immediately obvious that I could do it. Man, that's a whole new level of confusion. Then you can multi-class? Fuck that, one class is confusing enough I ended up going what I felt was right and I guess I can always respec if needed. Trying to specialise characters as melee, ranged, spell caster, support etc. My Gythi Bard is quite the enigma though. My dialogue options are very diverse, from a Githi "Fuck you, you weakling", to a charming bard, to a devious liar. So I get lots of approvals and disapprovals from the same party members as I'm not exactly consistent with my responses, which probably isn't helpful for relationship building. I'm trying not to worry too much though and just go with it. I've also now got to leave two companions at camp, which is a tough choice. I guess it makes sense to rotate anyway to keep everyone levelling up.
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Post by alastair on Oct 13, 2023 8:11:04 GMT
They all level up anyway when they rejoin your party.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 13, 2023 8:15:11 GMT
Oh ok. I’ll have a play around anyway to see who I like best.
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Post by zephro on Oct 13, 2023 10:20:22 GMT
The game is pretty relaxed so you can swap people out or just make up a party of the ones you prefer talking to and it'll all work.
I regularly went without a rogue as I thought Astarion was a bit of a dick, or didn't quite fit with my noble Paladin's take on stuff. Just smashed doors in or found spells to get around problems.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 13, 2023 11:04:15 GMT
Astorian has kind of grown on me a bit. He's a dick but kind of fun. Lae'zel irritates the hell out of me though, but I think she's probably going to turn out to be really useful.
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Post by Gruf on Oct 13, 2023 11:41:54 GMT
I took a wrong turn and ended up murdering Lae'zel in a battle. I was ok with it
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Post by dogbot on Oct 13, 2023 11:53:05 GMT
She's my tank of choice and as hinted at on the previous page, I've got her and Astie's initiative set so high, they can basically murder anyone (so far) between them before anything else happens. It's made latter stages combat a lot easier and more satisfying.
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Post by zephro on Oct 13, 2023 11:57:57 GMT
By the end game I'd got her to be a mage slayer, which suits her vibe. But increased initiative, mage-slayer feat and at level 5 she gets Misty Step (bonus action, teleport anywhere within sight). So she'd just teleport next to their dangerous mage and absolutely fuck them up turn 1.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 13, 2023 11:59:57 GMT
How do you set initiative high then? I assume that dictates your battle order?
Also, when I levelled up I didn’t get to change my stats. Does that happen automatically? Or do they stay the same and you increase them with items and spells?
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Post by zephro on Oct 13, 2023 12:03:29 GMT
It's mostly your dexterity bonus. However there's various ways to bump it: InitiativeSo the alert feat (at level 4) just gives you a flat +5 which is like having dexterity 20. Then there's various items you can pick up along the way. For changing stat lines, recruit Withers and he lets you just respec a character fully (including ability scores) or at level 4,8,12. You get to add feats, some of which bump a stat: FeatsPlus items. There's a bunch of items and potions that are like +2 strength or sets strength to 18 etc.
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Post by dogbot on Oct 13, 2023 12:04:44 GMT
By the end game I'd got her to be a mage slayer, which suits her vibe. But increased initiative, mage-slayer feat and at level 5 she gets Misty Step (bonus action, teleport anywhere within sight). So she'd just teleport next to their dangerous mage and absolutely fuck them up turn 1. Indeed. I've got Astarion with a misty step amulet, too. Between those skills, their huge init and their boss weapons, if Astarion kicks off a fight with a sneak attack from behind, he immediately gets the next "combat" turn, then Lae'zel does. They both have up to four attacks and bonuses with their skills, can usually take out most high end bosses and a couple of tough mobs before they get a turn, leaving just drones to clean up. It has cut down on a lot of boring conversations. Apparently I'm at war with some mercenary guild in BG? They were attacking someone in the street and I got too close (possibly?) and got pulled in and now they attack on sight, so there's a lot of them to kill and there's all of Shadowheart's ex Shar pussies, and those supposedly scary assassins the mad woman sends after you... I might have upset a lot of people...
Life mirrors art and all that.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 13, 2023 12:11:51 GMT
It's mostly your dexterity bonus. However there's various ways to bump it: InitiativeSo the alert feat (at level 4) just gives you a flat +5 which is like having dexterity 20. Then there's various items you can pick up along the way. For changing stat lines, recruit Withers and he lets you just respec a character fully (including ability scores) or at level 4,8,12. You get to add feats, some of which bump a stat: FeatsPlus items. There's a bunch of items and potions that are like +2 strength or sets strength to 18 etc. Right, I've got Withers. I'm still really early on to be fair. I'm just messing around in Emerald Grove.
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Post by zephro on Oct 13, 2023 12:15:26 GMT
By the end game I'd got her to be a mage slayer, which suits her vibe. But increased initiative, mage-slayer feat and at level 5 she gets Misty Step (bonus action, teleport anywhere within sight). So she'd just teleport next to their dangerous mage and absolutely fuck them up turn 1. Indeed. I've got Astarion with a misty step amulet, too. Between those skills, their huge init and their boss weapons, if Astarion kicks off a fight with a sneak attack from behind, he immediately gets the next "combat" turn, then Lae'zel does. They both have up to four attacks and bonuses with their skills, can usually take out most high end bosses and a couple of tough mobs before they get a turn, leaving just drones to clean up. It has cut down on a lot of boring conversations. Apparently I'm at war with some mercenary guild in BG? They were attacking someone in the street and I got too close (possibly?) and got pulled in and now they attack on sight, so there's a lot of them to kill and there's all of Shadowheart's ex Shar pussies, and those supposedly scary assassins the mad woman sends after you... I might have upset a lot of people...
Life mirrors art and all that. My next play through I'm planning on going full evil assassin multi-classing rogue with shadow monk. Just teleport around being stealthy then absolutely screwing up bosses. Plus giving in to every single Dark Urge evil option no matter the cost.
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Post by skalpadda on Oct 13, 2023 12:22:10 GMT
Astorian has kind of grown on me a bit. He's a dick but kind of fun. Lae'zel irritates the hell out of me though, but I think she's probably going to turn out to be really useful. Both Lae'zel and Astarion have deeper personalities than it first appears, and both can change their thoughts and attitudes about things significantly depending on your actions. It's not one of those RPGs where you have to be a Yes Man and support all their ambitions in order to see their full stories, and all the origin companions (Shadowheart, Astarion, Lae'zel, Karlach, Wyll and Gale) can be quite different people by the end depending on how things pan out.
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Post by zephro on Oct 13, 2023 12:23:12 GMT
It's mostly your dexterity bonus. However there's various ways to bump it: InitiativeSo the alert feat (at level 4) just gives you a flat +5 which is like having dexterity 20. Then there's various items you can pick up along the way. For changing stat lines, recruit Withers and he lets you just respec a character fully (including ability scores) or at level 4,8,12. You get to add feats, some of which bump a stat: FeatsPlus items. There's a bunch of items and potions that are like +2 strength or sets strength to 18 etc. Right, I've got Withers. I'm still really early on to be fair. I'm just messing around in Emerald Grove. For the most part respeccing isn't useful until later. As the default options are generally fine. So it's really there for if you want to fuck around with some multi-class nonsense or you've got an idea for a build that goes with a high level item. You probably need to get all the interlocking systems understood first otherwise it won't achieve a whole lot. Plus multi-classing is often a waste of time before level 5 or so. Lots of classes get tasty abilities in the 1-4 then level 5 is generally a big step up. So spell casters get access to level 3 spells at class level 5. Martial classes (barbarian, fighter, paladin, monk) get a bonus attack at level 5, and doubling your damage output isn't worth missing. Basically don't sweat it or worry about FOMO. Most the default options, e.g. abilities and classes of the companions, work out the box. You can mix and match whatever companions you dig and still work out ways through almost any situation. Need to go in a back way but left a Rgoue at camp? There'll be a wall to smash with a hammer, or your wizard can make you all fly to just go around an obstacle, or you can drink a potion to become tiny and go through a small hole. Picking Bard as your main is a good choice though. They're pretty good in any situation, the absolute best at conversations, but they can get by with enough lock-picking or enough spell casting that you can just pick your party based on personalities you enjoy.
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Post by dogbot on Oct 13, 2023 12:39:04 GMT
Indeed. I've got Astarion with a misty step amulet, too. Between those skills, their huge init and their boss weapons, if Astarion kicks off a fight with a sneak attack from behind, he immediately gets the next "combat" turn, then Lae'zel does. They both have up to four attacks and bonuses with their skills, can usually take out most high end bosses and a couple of tough mobs before they get a turn, leaving just drones to clean up. It has cut down on a lot of boring conversations. Apparently I'm at war with some mercenary guild in BG? They were attacking someone in the street and I got too close (possibly?) and got pulled in and now they attack on sight, so there's a lot of them to kill and there's all of Shadowheart's ex Shar pussies, and those supposedly scary assassins the mad woman sends after you... I might have upset a lot of people...
Life mirrors art and all that. My next play through I'm planning on going full evil assassin multi-classing rogue with shadow monk. Just teleport around being stealthy then absolutely screwing up bosses. Plus giving in to every single Dark Urge evil option no matter the cost. Yeah, that sounds like a hoot. I'm positive I will play this through again and for the first time with one of these games, I'm tempted to break my standard mould like that and do something wild and crazy.
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