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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 8, 2023 0:12:42 GMT
There's actually a very interesting way to skip the entire thing. No traps, no flying, no fights until you get to the hag. I wish they had made it more obvious, I completely missed it the first time around.
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Post by askew on Oct 8, 2023 9:01:38 GMT
The mushrooms?
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 8, 2023 9:14:03 GMT
No, it's that (big spoilers for the hag's dungeon, don't read if you want to figure it out for yourself) all of the traps are illusions, that you can only recognise if you put on the same masks that her slaves wear. If you put them on, she will try to mind-control you (and succeed), but you can use a protection from evil spell to negate it. So you can skip all the traps, and also talk her slaves out of fighting you. It's a very cool option, but I don't think it's signposted quite enough. |
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Post by dogbot on Oct 8, 2023 10:21:20 GMT
I just used Feather Fall and jumped them individually down in turn mode.
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Post by skalpadda on Oct 8, 2023 11:07:48 GMT
No, it's that (big spoilers for the hag's dungeon, don't read if you want to figure it out for yourself) all of the traps are illusions, that you can only recognise if you put on the same masks that her slaves wear. If you put them on, she will try to mind-control you (and succeed), but you can use a protection from evil spell to negate it. So you can skip all the traps, and also talk her slaves out of fighting you. It's a very cool option, but I don't think it's signposted quite enough. That is cool. I put on one of the masks the first time but never actually thought about using Protection from Good and Evil despite using the spell a fair bit. Charm effects are rare in the game so that bit of the spell wasn't really on my mind and then you have to remember that the hag's magic is Fey (also very rare) and would be negated by it. I was wondering about having to fight the other mask-wearers, as it seemed very much like you should be able to avoid it but doing so (without invising everyone) was unreasonably hard and going non-lethal only works in a few select situations. In the second hag encounter I did some sneaking around and pickpocketed the masks off them, but it seemed semi-broken as to whether that would free them or not. |
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Post by brokenkey on Oct 8, 2023 20:16:27 GMT
In the Hags Lair, is there an easier way to block the vents? I was able to pick up a body from the last encounter and throw one on with Karlach but seems like I can't do it with the other bodies. I'm guessing maybe stacking up on barrells and bringing them? Pretty much any item is big enough to block the vents. I used rope, and a book. |
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Post by Tuffty on Oct 8, 2023 21:29:09 GMT
No, it's that (big spoilers for the hag's dungeon, don't read if you want to figure it out for yourself) all of the traps are illusions, that you can only recognise if you put on the same masks that her slaves wear. If you put them on, she will try to mind-control you (and succeed), but you can use a protection from evil spell to negate it. So you can skip all the traps, and also talk her slaves out of fighting you. It's a very cool option, but I don't think it's signposted quite enough. I thought something was up because I saw 4 masks on the table, but when I tried it on and turned evil I thought it was just a trap. Dont think I have a Protection From Good and Evil spell or scroll anyway. Something to know for next time! |
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Post by harrypalmer on Oct 9, 2023 8:54:58 GMT
I've been stuck on the 'Kill all goblin leaders' quest right at the start for probably about 3 hours! Had a breakthrough last night after much experimentation that I needed to control a choke point and funnel the fuckers into a murder zone. Worked like a charm and I cleared them out in no time. Got a ton of treasure for my efforts too. Very satisfying and finally feels like it's all coming together.
I went into this pretty blind and was not expecting the combat to be so complex and strategic, takes some getting used to but it's so much more immersive.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 9, 2023 10:15:47 GMT
I had the first combat encounter last night (just 3 imps I think) as I haven't really had any time play it yet. Didn't really know what I was doing but luckily it was a straight forward ranged shot and melee hit combo. I was hoping it eased you in but it sounds like it may be a more steep curve based on the above. Making a note of the choke point tactic though  It seems there is so much available in terms of spells, cantrips (which I think are different to spells) etc. I can can also play a tune which apparently does something. Attracts enemies towards me perhaps? |
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Post by harrypalmer on Oct 9, 2023 10:24:23 GMT
Yeah it is deeeeep. There's multiple ways to approach pretty much everything, and seemingly a lot of important stuff can also be totally ignored!
I've just found out I've missed 3 potential companions right at the start, so hoping they are still about when I go back to check later on!
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Post by jeepers on Oct 9, 2023 11:12:23 GMT
Also hit the Goblin Camp and found it weird that I could Long Rest and that none of the goblins I’d yet to gleefully slaughter didn’t notice the piles of corpses of those that I had whilst I had a doze. Enjoyed the challenge tho - the fighting is fun in this.
And - more importantly - why does my main keep appearing stark naked in cutscenes? Fully clothed in camp and in the world so I’ve obvs checked or unchecked some “Perv mode” option somewhere…
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Post by askew on Oct 9, 2023 12:11:11 GMT
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Post by jeepers on Oct 9, 2023 12:37:44 GMT
There not one person amongst us who didn’t want to see how accurately moddelled a half-orc’s cock is. Leaf-shaped apparently.
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Post by alastair on Oct 9, 2023 13:38:23 GMT
It seems there is so much available in terms of spells, cantrips (which I think are different to spells) etc. I can can also play a tune which apparently does something. Attracts enemies towards me perhaps? Cantrips don't use up a spell slot. So you can use them time and time again. However, they are usually pretty weak. They do scale with level eventually. e.g. at 5th level Firebolt will do 2d10 damage. Also, Shadowheart's Sacred Flame does radiant damage which some enemies are weak to (i.e. she does double damage). |
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Post by alastair on Oct 9, 2023 13:41:14 GMT
There not one person amongst us who didn’t want to see how accurately moddelled a half-orc’s cock is. Leaf-shaped apparently. Speak for yourself! I checked out how accurately modelled Shadowheart is. Then put her clothes back on. Although I have inadvertently left her camp clothing unequipped, so when taking a long rest she is kipping in just her chainmail bikini. I keep forgetting to do anything about it, then I found myself worrying that the missus would notice.. I still haven't done anything about it though. |
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Post by RobEG on Oct 9, 2023 22:05:17 GMT
Done a few battles now and am starting to get to grips with basics. High ground, dip your weapon in fire etc. I know there is much more to learn and I’ll be properly be battered in my first proper fight. Rescued the elf from the ship . She doesn’t seem to like me much (I think due to my race), but she seems useful. Much nicer than the other one, who I think was annoyed at me saving the elf . I feel there is a lot of backstory and lore I don’t understand having not played the first two games. Feel a bit lost on that front, but it seems fun nonetheless. |
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Post by ekz on Oct 9, 2023 23:38:54 GMT
I went into it knowing nothing about D&D or BG previously. I just turned combat to easy and tried to skillcheck my way out of fights where possible. I wouldn't worry too much about being shit, just enjoy whatever chaos is being thrown at you at the time.
Part of the fun (for me) in the beginning was that I knew so little and everything felt new/fresh. Had an absolute blast experimenting and thinking 'but what if I do this stupid thing...' and having the devs already thought about it and catered for it.
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Post by Duffking on Oct 10, 2023 10:47:59 GMT
Done a few battles now and am starting to get to grips with basics. High ground, dip your weapon in fire etc. I know there is much more to learn and I’ll be properly be battered in my first proper fight. Rescued the elf from the ship . She doesn’t seem to like me much (I think due to my race), but she seems useful. Much nicer than the other one, who I think was annoyed at me saving the elf . I feel there is a lot of backstory and lore I don’t understand having not played the first two games. Feel a bit lost on that front, but it seems fun nonetheless. FWIW the first few levels are the toughest because you just don't have as many options, so fights can be unusually brutal. Most characters start getting really noticeably stronger around level 4-5 as they start getting extra attacks etc. Don't worry too much if you're finding it hard. |
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Post by RobEG on Oct 10, 2023 11:42:16 GMT
Not hard per se at this point, just a bit overwhelming. For example, I move / attack, then have no idea when I should be doing with my bonus action. Or whether I should use my bonus action first. What is the best positioning for each character? My Bard can apparently play some music but I have no idea what effect it has etc etc...
I'm sure it will fall into place the more I play.
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Post by alastair on Oct 10, 2023 12:07:26 GMT
I've only played a Bard in real DnD, so I can only speculate, but playing some music is likely to offer some sort of buff to your party. Likely worth doing.
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Post by Duffking on Oct 10, 2023 14:09:35 GMT
Not hard per se at this point, just a bit overwhelming. For example, I move / attack, then have no idea when I should be doing with my bonus action. Or whether I should use my bonus action first. What is the best positioning for each character? My Bard can apparently play some music but I have no idea what effect it has etc etc... I'm sure it will fall into place the more I play. There's just a few encounters that will give you some WTF moments, more than anything. One involving a lot of gnolls with rapid fire crossbows, for example. It's mostly that you have to think about how you kick off fights early on, facerushing into shit in the mid game doesn't really hurt you all that much. |
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Post by zephro on Oct 10, 2023 14:09:36 GMT
Bardic Inspiration grants a buff. Playing music is just for amusement. Though it does make people come over and throw coins at you, so busking and distracting guards. I used it to get people to come over to a bridge where someone shoved them off to their doom.
Bonus actions, depends on your class. Some classes just don't have a lot to do with them, Rogue - Thief has quite a lot of options. Like Clerics, you mostly use it to cast healing spells, if nobody needs healing just skip it.
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Post by Duffking on Oct 10, 2023 14:19:08 GMT
Yeah, not every skill necessarily has to be useful in combat.
You'll find more useful bonus action stuff as you get higher in level as well. But just use what makes sense at the time, there's no stipulation that one must come before the other.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 10, 2023 14:46:36 GMT
Got it, thanks guys!
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Post by harrypalmer on Oct 10, 2023 21:52:50 GMT
I have never actually played D&D but have always had an interest in it so I kinda know the basic rules but not much of the lore. The game definitely throws you in with little to no explanation, which I initially found extremely jarring to the point where I almost gave up. But now I honestly think it’s because the game is so adaptable that it does actually allow you to learn by doing.
The characters so far are all extremely engaging. I’ve done the emerald grove quest and a few side quests. I love that every decision seems meaningful. You have to be alert and thinking all the time.
I think all my folks are lvl 5 and they definitely pack a punch now.
You know a game is good when you set your alarm to get an hour in before work.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 10, 2023 22:15:55 GMT
Just spent all night being battered by the bandits in the refectory. Until I realised I could throw a fire bolt at the oil barrel and pretty much win the fight on the first turn. Idiot! Was thinking I was massively under levelled or something but thought there had to be a way! Found myself a couple of companions. Gale and the white haired elf guy. Seem to have lost the lady on the ship but I’m sure she’ll show up somewhere. Very slow progress so far but I think I’m starting to get it |
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Post by Frog on Oct 11, 2023 8:38:03 GMT
Just spent all night being battered by the bandits in the refectory. Ooh matron. |
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Post by alastair on Oct 11, 2023 9:29:13 GMT
Just spent all night being battered by the bandits in the refectory. Until I realised I could throw a fire bolt at the oil barrel and pretty much win the fight on the first turn. Idiot! Was thinking I was massively under levelled or something but thought there had to be a way! Found myself a couple of companions. Gale and the white haired elf guy. Seem to have lost the lady on the ship but I’m sure she’ll show up somewhere. Very slow progress so far but I think I’m starting to get it Assuming she (Shadowheart or Lae'zel, or both!) joined your party then she will be waiting at camp. When you go to camp in order to take a long rest you can talk to her and tell her to come with you, or join the party or similar. There are other companions too. It definitely makes sense to have 4 in your party rather than 3. I have Gael and Astarion too - they feel like solid party members. Astarion is awesome for lockpicking and trap disarming. |
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Post by f00b_inc on Oct 11, 2023 10:40:26 GMT
Made it to Baldurs Gate finally! I think I'm still in the outer walls of the main city but already I can see how dense it's going to become! Feeling a bit overwhelmed for the first time since getting into the swing of things back in Act 1.
Great game. Also will be up for a replay at some stage (probably with a proper machine instead of a steam deck!) - saying that is going to take me a long time to work through the city...!
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Post by dogbot on Oct 11, 2023 11:03:08 GMT
Just spent all night being battered by the bandits in the refectory. Until I realised I could throw a fire bolt at the oil barrel and pretty much win the fight on the first turn. Idiot! Was thinking I was massively under levelled or something but thought there had to be a way! Found myself a couple of companions. Gale and the white haired elf guy. Seem to have lost the lady on the ship but I’m sure she’ll show up somewhere. Very slow progress so far but I think I’m starting to get it Assuming she (Shadowheart or Lae'zel, or both!) joined your party then she will be waiting at camp. When you go to camp in order to take a long rest you can talk to her and tell her to come with you, or join the party or similar. There are other companions too. It definitely makes sense to have 4 in your party rather than 3. I have Gael and Astarion too - they feel like solid party members. Astarion is awesome for lockpicking and trap disarming. And later on, massive first-go damage dealing in any combat situation |
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Did you unequip their undergarments to take a peek? 
