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Post by dogbot on Sept 26, 2023 12:33:04 GMT
Where does one affix this G key to one's PlayStation?
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Post by Duffking on Sept 26, 2023 14:11:58 GMT
There's no 1 press for it on controller iirc, you need to press L2 and then it's one of the options on the menu
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Post by ryder35 on Sept 26, 2023 14:18:10 GMT
The G key is your friend whenever stragglers refuse to jump. Also works to stop everyone in their tracks when you spot traps. Playing BG2 now and dear god the pathfinding is atrocious. With a full party it really does feel like herding cats. I don't know if it's my memory that's faulty but I don't remember it being this bad, and I'm starting to suspect the Enhanced Edition broke something. At least it's nice to see something that's really improved over the last 20 years. You must gather your felines before venturing forth! |
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Post by dogbot on Sept 26, 2023 14:53:13 GMT
There's no 1 press for it on controller iirc, you need to press L2 and then it's one of the options on the menu Yes, square. It doesn't work if the person is stuck. Or out of range, or otherwise in a situation where they can't get back. Dead of Shadow plague because they walked outside the light because they didn't jump, etc. |
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Post by zephro on Sept 26, 2023 15:22:34 GMT
When was the A* algorithm invented?  In time for BG2. |
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Post by zephro on Sept 26, 2023 16:03:00 GMT
More clearly I'm fairly sure it was invented in the 60s as it's in Knuth. But there's been a load of improvements and refinements on it since the 90s for video games. BG2 the actual graph it's traversing is probably still crap so more CPU won't do anything to it.
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Post by skalpadda on Sept 26, 2023 18:52:58 GMT
For individual characters it works fine, so it's not finding a path that's a problem in itself. With a party of six though, they'll constantly block or get stuck on each other, and often one or two characters will take a huge detour if others are in the way of the shortest path, even if it's temporary as they're all moving. It doesn't marry well with map design that has a lot of narrow spaces and choke points.
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Post by zephro on Sept 26, 2023 19:01:37 GMT
For individual characters it works fine, so it's not finding a path that's a problem in itself. With a party of six though, they'll constantly block or get stuck on each other, and often one or two characters will take a huge detour if others are in the way of the shortest path, even if it's temporary as they're all moving. It doesn't marry well with map design that has a lot of narrow spaces and choke points. Needs D* then Dynamic A*. Old versions of A* are absolutely terrible when it's dynamic. Was always massive difficulty with anyone trying to innovate with dynamic environments. Like Red Faction. |
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 30, 2023 8:33:24 GMT
Can't believe Raphael gets his own Disney villain song! A fun fight too, although think I would have really struggled if I didn't get some help from an old foe Must be on the home stretch with this game now. Probably have 2 or 3 sessions left with it. What a fantastic ride it has been (and, perhaps contrary to many opinions, I've still been absolutely loving act 3). Edit: just seen that Destria made the same comparison I did  |
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Post by alastair on Oct 3, 2023 8:52:16 GMT
I'm wandering around Reithwin village. There's some weird shit going on!!
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Post by RobEG on Oct 7, 2023 7:31:04 GMT
Been looking for something new to play after going through some slightly older stuff in the game catalogue. This sounds great but having no knowledge of d&d and having not played the series before I think I might struggle. How tough is it for newcomers? I know this has probably been covered already but I’m not reading through 35 pages Google seems to give me mixed answers. It’s definitely down on my wish list though for my next game to stop playing half way through. |
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Post by dasbooter on Oct 7, 2023 7:42:32 GMT
I have no knowledge of D&D and no previous experience of BG games.
This is fucking excellent.
Get it!
I'm still on Act 1 and haven't felt lost. I happened to watch the D&D movie before I played so that gave some familiarity with the world.
Honestly I played about 30 min of Starfield and haven't touched it again as BG3 is just far higher quality.
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Post by Frog on Oct 7, 2023 7:52:26 GMT
You will be fine Rob.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 7, 2023 8:05:45 GMT
It does look great. I don’t usually pay full price for games though. But I feel I’m wasting my ps5 and OLED tv on 5 year old games, so I might take the plunge!
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 7, 2023 8:10:35 GMT
No experience of playing D&D here and I bounced off the earlier games from the franchise. I would say it doesn't hold your hand with any of it and I think it could do a better job of explaining it's systems to the player. It probably took me up until Act 3 before I really felt comfortable in combat.
Having said that, that didn't stop me having a fantastic time all the way to the end, even when I was just muddling through. It is very easy to respec characters if you make a mistake, with a really minor cost to doing so, which means you are free to mess around with builds (plus, there are plenty of build guides out there to give a hand, if you want). On normal difficulty, combat isn't too hard for the most part. It felt just about right for my level, requiring me to think through what I was doing, but forgiving enough that a mistake wouldn't instantly end me. I had to repeat a few fights, but not too many.
It's fantastic game, so just go for it. I do think it is one that likely will get even better over time. Feels like a director's cut version coming at some point in the next couple years is inevitable, but personally will be more than happy to replay when that happens.
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Post by Frog on Oct 7, 2023 8:44:13 GMT
You can always look up how to level characters if you aren't sure as well. That's the main thing you might find overwhelming.
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Post by harrypalmer on Oct 7, 2023 8:44:50 GMT
I’ve just started and echo these comments. It is complex, and be prepared to nope out of combat a lot and try different approaches.
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Post by askew on Oct 7, 2023 8:46:34 GMT
Aye. It’s only 100G to respec. I was just blindly choosing cool-sounding spells only to never use them.
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Post by Tuffty on Oct 7, 2023 17:47:09 GMT
In the Hags Lair, is there an easier way to block the vents? I was able to pick up a body from the last encounter and throw one on with Karlach but seems like I can't do it with the other bodies. I'm guessing maybe stacking up on barrells and bringing them?
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Post by Frog on Oct 7, 2023 18:06:20 GMT
Heavy stones.
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Post by dasbooter on Oct 7, 2023 18:06:22 GMT
In the Hags Lair, is there an easier way to block the vents? I was able to pick up a body from the last encounter and throw one on with Karlach but seems like I can't do it with the other bodies. I'm guessing maybe stacking up on barrells and bringing them? The bit with vines/branches and lots of gas clouds? You can jump into areas that avoid the gas, although at one point you have to jump down a level and lose 1hp or so. I never even thought to block the vents when doing that bit lol. Getting through the wooden face door was the most annoying bit for me, I kept thinking I had to equip all 4 crazy masks on my party (queue lots of failed saves) |
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Post by askew on Oct 7, 2023 18:13:49 GMT
glol |
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Post by Tuffty on Oct 7, 2023 18:26:05 GMT
In the Hags Lair, is there an easier way to block the vents? I was able to pick up a body from the last encounter and throw one on with Karlach but seems like I can't do it with the other bodies. I'm guessing maybe stacking up on barrells and bringing them? The bit with vines/branches and lots of gas clouds? You can jump into areas that avoid the gas, although at one point you have to jump down a level and lose 1hp or so. I never even thought to block the vents when doing that bit lol. Getting through the wooden face door was the most annoying bit for me, I kept thinking I had to equip all 4 crazy masks on my party (queue lots of failed saves) I never even thought myself, only had the idea once the game gave me a tutorial prompt to say it could be possible to block vents.
If I have any regret with my character at this stage it's having Mage Hand. I never use it, unless I'm using it wrong it seems to have less use than I thought. Can only pick up items it seems?
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Post by Frog on Oct 7, 2023 18:59:13 GMT
It has one absolutely amazing use. But various other decent uses, I always forgot it though.
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Post by 😎 on Oct 7, 2023 21:22:25 GMT
Mage Hand will be more useful once they patch in the trickster stuff that lets it pickpocket, lock pick, turn invisible etc. reverse pickpocket a few thousand coins then walk in and whack them with Twist of Fortune. You can one shot bosses.
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Post by 😎 on Oct 7, 2023 21:25:44 GMT
On a similar note, another fun hack is to intentionally murder Gale then throw his poisonous corpse into a powerful mob.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 7, 2023 22:01:50 GMT
I took the plunge. I’m already confused just going through the character creation. Had no idea so just went with what sounded fun. So I’m a Githyanki Bard apparently Had a quick look through the in game menu’s. Bit overwhelming, but I guess I’ll just learn by doing. Looking forward to getting properly stuck in. |
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Post by killerbee on Oct 7, 2023 22:26:31 GMT
RobEGI have never played D&D and had next to no idea about the various races, classes or lore in the game, but to be honest hardly any of that really matters, and you pick up everything you need to know from the game. The characters and writing is really good and even though I’m still on Act 1 (I rescued a certain Druid, had a party to celebrate and am now back on the road to find some Towers somewhere…) there have been lots of great stories to follow, moral decisions to take and plenty of exploration and looting to enjoy. I’d say the combat is the hardest bit to grasp. There’s a huge number of spells and abilities that make it quite difficult to know what works best where and against whom/ what - and by extension it’s difficult to plan what abilities to unlock when you level up. Quite a few times I’ve realised after a tough battle that I had some gear or spell that could have made a big difference. It is all turn based so you’re not under any pressure, but I did find battles pretty hard to begin with. But it is all starting to click now I understand more about the importance of positioning in the battlefield, the benefits of controlling choke points, and the value of applying buffs and debuffs asap. It’s tricky, but also deep which is another reason I am already thinking about a second play through when this one is done! Sorry long post. TL;DR - get it, it’s great. Edit - and I spent so long typing that, I didn’t see your post! You made a good choice. It does get less bewildering I promise!
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Post by skalpadda on Oct 7, 2023 23:16:38 GMT
In the Hags Lair, is there an easier way to block the vents? I was able to pick up a body from the last encounter and throw one on with Karlach but seems like I can't do it with the other bodies. I'm guessing maybe stacking up on barrells and bringing them? On my second run I couldn't be bothered fiddling with the traps, so I just jumped between the safe spots, using Enhance Leap to make sure the weaklings made it over the longer jumps. Tripped one or two flower traps and took some fall damage, but it was easily healable with a short rest at the bottom. |
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Post by zephro on Oct 7, 2023 23:24:26 GMT
I just used a potion of flying to go over the whole thing.
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