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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Mar 9, 2023 20:42:57 GMT
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Post by simple on Mar 9, 2023 20:50:27 GMT
So about 45 min once you discount the D+ credits at the end
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Post by LegendaryApe on Mar 9, 2023 20:58:05 GMT
For the first half hour our Mando tries to make a salad but realises his salad tongs isn't working (it's one of those spring loaded ones) so he goes to his mechanic and she convinces him to have a cookie instead. He flies to the cookie planet and falls down a cookie hole and has to take his helmet off to eat his way out. The space pope of helmets disapproves
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Post by oldschoolsavant on Mar 9, 2023 20:59:02 GMT
And again, as others have said, because I'm not neck deep in the ol' EU stuff, the other shows etc, I'm going to have to wait a few episodes for some bad exposition about what the hell the ...
It was mentioned in the first season, and you can see symbols of it in a lot of Star Wars - but the main mention was in BOBF, and the 3 Mando episodes in that (at least certainly the first one) are important as to what is going on in this series, and particularly yesterdays episode. So if you haven't seen those, can understand it seeming a bit random. I know the icon, the tusked skull as a passing thing outside of this show (Bounty Hunter PS2?), and we're aware it marked the culvert locations etc, and is key to the whole Mandalorian thing. Aside from that one line from the Armorer, that if you weren't paying attention to in the intro recap you're supposed to remember from when ? For a show that likes to bash us over the head with stupid stuff, it's doing a pretty crap job with the basic coherent storytelling at the mo. How's about Bo and Djinn had a wee chat about it last week, when he dropped by. Hey, y'know that myth...? Bo just brushes him off etc. Brings it back into focus. I don't know if there's some intentional obfuscation lorewise about the whole bathing in living water thing, but somebody could've brought it up. As it stands, we've only got some extra bubbles when she shat herself to explain how shocking a reveal this was.
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Post by Vortex on Mar 9, 2023 21:22:37 GMT
Mythosaur is such a terrible name. Would you say it was a mythed opportunity? I'll get me coat.
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Post by aubergine on Mar 10, 2023 5:19:44 GMT
It was mentioned in the first season, and you can see symbols of it in a lot of Star Wars - but the main mention was in BOBF, and the 3 Mando episodes in that (at least certainly the first one) are important as to what is going on in this series, and particularly yesterdays episode. So if you haven't seen those, can understand it seeming a bit random. I know the icon, the tusked skull as a passing thing outside of this show (Bounty Hunter PS2?), and we're aware it marked the culvert locations etc, and is key to the whole Mandalorian thing. Aside from that one line from the Armorer, that if you weren't paying attention to in the intro recap you're supposed to remember from when ? For a show that likes to bash us over the head with stupid stuff, it's doing a pretty crap job with the basic coherent storytelling at the mo. How's about Bo and Djinn had a wee chat about it last week, when he dropped by. Hey, y'know that myth...? Bo just brushes him off etc. Brings it back into focus. I don't know if there's some intentional obfuscation lorewise about the whole bathing in living water thing, but somebody could've brought it up. As it stands, we've only got some extra bubbles when she shat herself to explain how shocking a reveal this was. I’m not up on all this, but I take it we are talking about the part where Starbuck explains that the legends around the pool and founding of Mandalore are bullshit, then sees the tamed Mythosaur with her own eyes? Seemed fairly self-explanatory in the moment.
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Post by darkling on Mar 10, 2023 7:13:28 GMT
For the first half hour our Mando tries to make a salad but realises his salad tongs isn't working (it's one of those spring loaded ones) so he goes to his mechanic and she convinces him to have a cookie instead. He flies to the cookie planet and falls down a cookie hole and has to take his helmet off to eat his way out. The space pope of helmets disapproves Erm, spoilers?
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Post by Gruf on Mar 10, 2023 9:48:39 GMT
For the first half hour our Mando tries to make a salad but realises his salad tongs isn't working (it's one of those spring loaded ones) so he goes to his mechanic and she convinces him to have a cookie instead. He flies to the cookie planet and falls down a cookie hole and has to take his helmet off to eat his way out. The space pope of helmets disapproves Erm, spoilers? Sounds better TBH
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Post by nexus6 on Mar 10, 2023 10:10:05 GMT
Salad Fingers is Darth Sidious OMG
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Post by Saul1138 on Mar 10, 2023 10:49:54 GMT
R5 as in A New Hope R5?? Jeez, this is what's wrong with all the new star wars stuff... they are so desperate to cram in every reference to every character from the originals that it turns out the entire galaxy used to share a flat back in the day, and just conveniently all forgot each other. Mandalorian season 1 was great because it mostly avoided all that shit and introduced new characters, and all its references were Westerns. / end rant. I guess I should start watching it now. Yup, R5; and a great reference to the novel, From a Certain Point of View. Or maybe Tales of the Rebellion. Sure it is fan wank, but I still enjoy those little moments. But I wouldn’t mind seeing something outside of the main Skywalker era/ family. As long as they don’t touch the Old Republic too much.
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Post by khanivor on Mar 13, 2023 1:56:25 GMT
My daughter recognized the droid ‘wasn’t that in the first film?’ Went back and showed her the burn marks where he blew his bad motivator in that film
I guess she’d forgotten me showing her this when the droid made an appearance in S1. And S2.
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Post by Gruf on Mar 13, 2023 9:00:45 GMT
The wrong Mandalorian is protecting the Muppet it seems
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Post by darkling on Mar 13, 2023 9:45:03 GMT
Yeah I wasn't sure whether it was the best narrative choice to have the hero saved twice in the same episode. The hero in a western isn't meant to be a naive idiot.
Sure, put the hero in peril to put them to the test, but Mando overcame nothing and learned nothing. Really odd episode.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 13, 2023 9:45:28 GMT
It was pretty funny how lame they are making him/the mandalorians look this season. First they didnt check the beach for monsters, then he gets sold a crappy droid by a con man, sends the droid out to take readings so he doesnt die, goes after it anyway, fails to lift a light sword up, gets kidnapped, gets rescued, gets drowned and gets rescued AGAIN by the person who lives at arms length from her home planet and has never once been arsed to check if its habitable.
I would have glassed their planet just to rid the universe of their stupidity.
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Post by aubergine on Mar 13, 2023 9:54:37 GMT
It really doesn’t make sense that they wouldn’t have checked the atmosphere via remote technology, but maybe they were so traumatised by the planet wide genocide (that only affected humans I guess) to go back, check for survivors etc.
Or it’s just weak / careless / convenient writing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2023 9:56:24 GMT
Ugh is it actually the droid from the start of New Hope? I assumed it was just the same model. I hate it when they do that shit, it's so unneeded.
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Post by myk on Mar 13, 2023 9:59:57 GMT
it's that thing where a couple of flashbacks to Bo Katan analysing readings from the surface, or doing a couple of checks herself would have made it seem much less stupid. If she'd done all that and given up hope, with the ruins giving her too much distress and vowing to herself never to return it would make the payoff of her going to rescue Mando even more powerful.
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Post by simple on Mar 13, 2023 10:01:45 GMT
It was pretty funny how lame they are making him/the mandalorians look this season. First they didnt check the beach for monsters, then he gets sold a crappy droid by a con man, sends the droid out to take readings so he doesnt die, goes after it anyway, fails to lift a light sword up, gets kidnapped, gets rescued, gets drowned and gets rescued AGAIN by the person who lives at arms length from her home planet and has never once been arsed to check if its habitable. I would have glassed their planet just to rid the universe of their stupidity. Not just failing to check for space crocodiles but fighting it in the shittest way possible too. Proper Stormtrooper level stuff.
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Post by aubergine on Mar 13, 2023 10:07:22 GMT
In fairness, they should not have been alive. The real stormtrooper stuff was when the Empire glassed and poisoned the planet, but missed.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 13, 2023 10:08:20 GMT
'Oh no, a 100 ton crocodile!'
*pew pew* *pew pew pew* *wires for some reason* *pew pew pew* *wilhelm scream* *pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew*
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Post by Gruf on Mar 13, 2023 10:17:22 GMT
I just watch for the production values TBH, wasted a terrific looking universe on CBBC script writers IMO. I always default to "what if they gave all this to HBO to do"
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Post by wunty on Mar 13, 2023 11:02:46 GMT
It was pretty funny how lame they are making him/the mandalorians look this season. First they didnt check the beach for monsters, then he gets sold a crappy droid by a con man, sends the droid out to take readings so he doesnt die, goes after it anyway, fails to lift a light sword up, gets kidnapped, gets rescued, gets drowned and gets rescued AGAIN by the person who lives at arms length from her home planet and has never once been arsed to check if its habitable. I would have glassed their planet just to rid the universe of their stupidity. Not just failing to check for space crocodiles but fighting it in the shittest way possible too. Proper Stormtrooper level stuff. They surely know that they share their current planet with massive space crocodiles. Yet have their ceremony at the waters edge regardless. Then fight it as though they've never seen one before.
Only two episodes in and it's poised to make Book of Boba Fett look like top tier writing.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 13, 2023 11:06:46 GMT
Im also kind of baffled that they spent an entire episode with him trying to repair that other robot to then just immediately sack it off and go with the other one (unless it pays off somehow later on).
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Post by wunty on Mar 13, 2023 11:17:37 GMT
It's very much a case of:
"Bloody hell, this series is really popular, we've been asked to do more seasons." "Really? What? But the thing ended with Moff Gideon getting his comeuppance and Luke fucking off with Grogu. What will we right about?" "I don't know. Let's just wing it." "Sounds good."
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Post by darkling on Mar 13, 2023 11:19:17 GMT
I assumed I'd tuned out and missed something, because one moment he absolutely had to repair that very specific droid, despite it being practically unsalvageable, and next he's happy to buy any old droid.
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Post by wunty on Mar 13, 2023 11:23:28 GMT
Nope, the turnaround was literally a 2 minute conversation.
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Post by nexus6 on Mar 13, 2023 11:37:54 GMT
It's very much a case of: "Bloody hell, this series is really popular, we've been asked to do more seasons." "Really? What? But the thing ended with Moff Gideon getting his comeuppance and Luke fucking off with Grogu. What will we right about?" "I don't know. Let's just wing it." "Sounds good." write
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Post by wunty on Mar 13, 2023 12:10:26 GMT
Shhh. Don't be that guy.
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Post by aubergine on Mar 13, 2023 12:11:25 GMT
I assumed I'd tuned out and missed something, because one moment he absolutely had to repair that very specific droid, despite it being practically unsalvageable, and next he's happy to buy any old droid. I’m pretty sure the show runners saw my comments on how stupid that was after episode 1, and changed it up for episode 2. They really put the hot irons on in their CGI sweatshop to get it out, but the results were acceptable.
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Post by simple on Mar 13, 2023 12:17:56 GMT
I think the issue at the root of this season’s problems is that the show was a much bigger hit than they expected and now they feel like they need to make it important without ever having planned this far in advance.
It was probably just intended to be a one off season originally, then they got the second commissioned and it came to a fairly natural conclusion but its a hit and Disney couldn’t let all the potential Grogu merch money go missing so now it has to be a big saga with maximum marketability even if they don’t have enough plot to fill it.
Which arguably means it has the same structural fault every Star Wars property has had since Phantom Menace rebooted the franchise. Plenty of fun action but slightly hollowed out form now its run beyond its original scope.
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