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Post by JYM60 on Sept 9, 2021 10:22:04 GMT
I thought NFTs were just a way for cunts with way way too much money to flex on us peasants, by saying look at me I have so much money I can just waste it on pointless crap nobody needs.
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Post by Popzeus on Sept 10, 2021 6:50:52 GMT
I had a fun few months riding the dogecoin boom earlier in the year. If I'd just held on to what I bought back when it was 8p I'd still be quids in but made some poor decisions trying to predict the peaks and dips. Whenever I break even again I'll probably cash out.
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Post by H-alphaFox on Sept 20, 2021 10:59:53 GMT
To be fair there are some absolutely amazing artists and artworks in the NFT marketplace. Most of them being overlooked by those rinsing their cash for pixel rocks and monkey drawings. I do think though if you are an artist, especially a graphic artist and you already sell your work to people then offering it as a NFT is a no brainer if you want a bit of crypto without putting money into. Plus blockchain gaming is taking off, with playable NFT characters and loot starting to be worth silly money. No way EA isn't looking into making this normal. I picked up a character that went up by 20-30% overnight. Can only see it sky rocketing once the game comes out of early access and is fully released. edit: EA are www.ledgerinsights.com/electronic-arts-recruits-for-blockchain-nfts-why-it-matters/
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 20, 2021 11:14:05 GMT
Yeah, NFTs are good for the artist. I suppose, ultimately, it will be like a buying a special edition of something or chucking them a few quid just to support them. Something extra for fans and supporters to show a bit of love.
As an investment, though, its absolute fucking madness. But I guess that is the name of the game in crypto.
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Post by Tonka (π,πͺ€) on Sept 20, 2021 14:16:04 GMT
It'll be interesting to see what effects the Evergrande collapse will have on crypto, as Tether may be majorly exposed to any fallout from that. I think it's far more likely they're backed by Bitcoin and other crypto shit. (If they're backed at all) Print 100 000 Tethers, buy bitcoin. Hey, backed by assests! USe said bitcoin to buy NFT! Hey, NFT worth 100 000. Rise repeat. Sell to a sap. Don't get caught with the bag. HODL!
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 20, 2021 14:20:56 GMT
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Post by H-alphaFox on Sept 24, 2021 15:52:35 GMT
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Post by H-alphaFox on Sept 24, 2021 19:46:34 GMT
Sold my first NFT for 0.01 ETH around 28 dollars US.
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Post by Danno on Sept 24, 2021 20:29:57 GMT
Pretty sure there's a crossover with NFTs and the Poo Diaries thread that we're failing to cash in on
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Post by Tonka (π,πͺ€) on Sept 25, 2021 7:03:24 GMT
Are you genuinely not aware of the differences between the bans? Trading to mining to all of it. Are you even remotely aware that each van has been effective at what it set out to do, and that they follow a nice escalating path?
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Post by H-alphaFox on Sept 25, 2021 8:02:51 GMT
Sir, this is a meme, not a Wendy's.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 25, 2021 9:04:50 GMT
They are just trying to stop people exfiltrating money out of the country.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 25, 2021 13:25:24 GMT
Sold my first NFT for 0.01 ETH around 28 dollars US. Doesn't it cost a huge amount in fees and commissions to set up? PS/ Paypal just emailed me saying they're adding bitcoin functionality.
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Post by sportβ
on Sept 25, 2021 13:33:18 GMT
Sold my first NFT for 0.01 ETH around 28 dollars US. Doesn't it cost a huge amount in fees and commissions to set up? PS/ Paypal just emailed me saying they're adding bitcoin functionality. Yeah, got that earlier this week. Tonka shitting himself.
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Post by H-alphaFox on Sept 25, 2021 13:53:18 GMT
Sold my first NFT for 0.01 ETH around 28 dollars US. Doesn't it cost a huge amount in fees and commissions to set up? PS/ Paypal just emailed me saying they're adding bitcoin functionality. I can't speak for other platforms but on Opensea you have 2 choices, you can choose to sell via ETH which does cost gas fees for the first couple you list and then depending on how it's sold someone will have to pay gas on every sale. But there is also the Polygon chain and this is totally free to use, and that is what I did. Cashing out on the other hand is a bit of a faff and you need gas fees so I wont bother just yet. It's fairly easy to set up. Wish Paypal would add that for EU customers too.
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Post by Tonka (π,πͺ€) on Sept 25, 2021 14:15:45 GMT
Sir, this is a meme, not a Wendy's. I'll take that as an "I'm fully aware actually"
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Post by Resident Knievel on Oct 19, 2021 11:12:47 GMT
New all time high this week for bitcoin most likely
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Post by γΉγ³γγγ©γ³γ on Oct 19, 2021 12:18:38 GMT
I bought some Shiba Inu, see if I can make some meme coin cash....
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Post by Resident Knievel on Oct 19, 2021 15:17:32 GMT
Seeing as the crypto space runs on memes and the spare cash of nihilistic tech bros I predict Bitcoin reaches $69,420 then crashes hard
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Post by malek86 on Oct 21, 2021 7:47:42 GMT
Ok, there is one thing I don't get about NFTs. When you buy one, wo is using their computational power to create your token?
The artist themselves? That doesn't sound likely if they have a crap computer. The buyer? I doubt it. The platform? I thought the whole point of crypto was avoiding middle men. The other users in the network? They would want a cut then.
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Post by H-alphaFox on Oct 21, 2021 8:19:00 GMT
Ok, there is one thing I don't get about NFTs. When you buy one, wo is using their computational power to create your token? The artist themselves? That doesn't sound likely if they have a crap computer. The buyer? I doubt it. The platform? I thought the whole point of crypto was avoiding middle men. The other users in the network? They would want a cut then. It depends on which blockchain you use but essentially when the NFT is minted(created and info sent on the blockchain) generally the seller pays the gas needed to mint it. Sometimes it's the buyer, again depending on which chain and method of buying. The computer power will be coming from either miners of said chain who get a reward in the way of coins/tokens or it will be proof of stake which requires no mining but investors stake their coins or validate nodes to make the blockchain run. Not from the artist themselves. Gas fee are really only an issue with ETH as ETH is a bit poo for that, hence their upcoming move to proof of stake. But Opensea have it set up where you only have to pay gas once or twice to list your work and then it is free to list after that. Gas is then paid depending on the type of sale like did you accept a bid lower than asking price? Then you pay, if the buyer paid asking or over they pay but it then comes out as a cut of the sale. I may be slightly off on that as fuck ETH and it's shitty gas feees. Opensea also has polygon network minting, this is totally free for the buyer and seller and very easy entry point that anyone can do. Other platforms use SOL or Tezos and the cost to mint on those is just a few cents. Basically it's not really anything to be worried about unless you are minting on ETH as everything else is PoS(proof of stake, not the other meaning).
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 21, 2021 8:34:18 GMT
The only thing more wasteful of the planets resources than NFTs is pre-bagged bananas
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Post by H-alphaFox on Oct 21, 2021 8:55:34 GMT
BS, Gaming is more wasteful. Among other things. But don't let that get in the way of a good hissy fit.
Damn New World and Flight Sim eco-terrorists.
And it's really on BTC and other asic script machines that are the big power consumers and since they aren't big players in the NFT space then what's the problem. GPU mining ETH is stopping soon which is still way less than asic mining and it'll all be proof of stake to create them.
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Post by malek86 on Oct 21, 2021 9:02:18 GMT
I've been reading a bit about this proof-of-stake thing. Sounds like it would favor those who have a lot of bitcoin already?
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Oct 21, 2021 9:09:32 GMT
Reality versus marketing.
NFTs current carbon footprint from blockchain is huge, add in production and storage and it's obscene.
There maybe a plan to move away from Etherium but none of those have been widely adopted or accepted.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Oct 21, 2021 9:10:19 GMT
BS, Gaming is more wasteful. No.
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Post by H-alphaFox on Oct 21, 2021 9:14:26 GMT
I've been reading a bit about this proof-of-stake thing. Sounds like it would favor those who have a lot of bitcoin already? Well not bitcoin exactly because it can't be staked, but yes if a coin/token is proof of stake which many are then you would assume the more you acquire the better off you'll be. Whales will make good use of it.
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Post by sportβ
on Oct 21, 2021 9:19:15 GMT
If you're smart, you'd move to El Salvador pronto. It'll be in the G7 in 10 years.
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Post by H-alphaFox on Oct 21, 2021 9:19:35 GMT
BS, Gaming is more wasteful. No. Yes medium.com/braiins/so-you-think-bitcoin-mining-is-wasteful-f93cf849a2b9And that's just btc which has very little say in the NFT space and power consumption hogging is not true of all cryptos. If you'd compare the same article to ETH consumption where much of the NFT space is then gaaming blows it out of the water. We are well past being high and mighty over things we don't understand while we give everything else a free pass computers, tvs, AC, refrigerators, cars and all that other crap do far more damage than something that gets 70 odd percent of it's power from renewable resources. It's all relative and unless your blocking ambos in the street then spare me.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 21, 2021 9:22:17 GMT
BS, Gaming is more wasteful. At least you get some enjoyment out of gaming. All you get with an NFT is the vague hope that someone even more stupid than you thinks the receipt you just bought is worth more than you just paid for it. Its literally the most wasteful thing as it produces absolutely nothing of value to anyone.
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